New Skills, What Is Needed For Each Class

PriestRain - Raging Tide · November 2011

VenusArmani - Dreamweaver wrote: »

Was trying to come up with a way where it wasn't going to be spammed, and the cleric couldn't have perma-anti stun because that would be OP. Also thinking of their roles in PvE where they are more supposed to be focused on other things. This way they could just put it on and leave it on, if the boss is still alive pop an apoth. If the boss is still alive, thats only like a minute or so of being uncovered. Not so much a big deal. Plenty of time for for a PvPer to get in there and stun the cleric in PvP though. IDK i don't really PvP so that's a guesstimate feel free to suggest a better cooldown time. XD

b:sin I suggest that cooldown is 3 seconds LOL That way...clerics would be OPer then sins

I like this idea alot^^ Oh and 10% def?? Please be stackable with spark

! xD

JungleForce - Dreamweaver · November 2011

Allisandre - Sanctuary wrote: »

Just to be clear, we are only speculating about what our wishes would be here right?

I just say this because you know that the Dev's have already selected the skills, the requirements, and it's not going to change, we just won't see it here until January or so.

Does anyone have any hard data on what the actual new skills being released are?

As for the wishlist, I want magic claws for my venomancer. Physical attacks in foxform is just pathetic unless you cheat with an exploit. For a magic class that has a melee mode, we need a weapon that supports this. Venomancer use only, magic claws is the answer. It should have a lower dex/str requirement so that we don't have to give up all of our MAG points to use them.

I like your AoE skill idea. Make it a lvl 100 skill.
No to the idea of pets having stats linked to our gear like the summons, pets aren't summons. Pet gear however, now there's a good idea. I suppose they would make it a coin sink like genie gear, but I think that's the way to go.

I'd prefer that venos get a decent dmg on fox form. 50% of our skills are on fox form, if the magical claw need dex, then we must choose between HA and AA (we do this, but theres almost any full fox veno nowdays) , so, what about Mdmg turn into Pdmg while in fox form?(ofc. less, but more than the current ), I want a new fox form skill too.
If we could choose both we would use all skills with good dmg.

And guys, do you think they will let all the effects of skills work in pvp? (I mean knock-back, bramble and stuff.)

ICasTBiDS - Raging Tide · November 2011

In my opinion, wizards have enough defensive skills. We have a sleep, seal and a chance to immobilize, MS and distance shrink (I consider this defensive) Demons have access to another stun. If you can't properly utilize these skills into your combos to survive, I think you need to rethink your class choice. Obviously another one would be much better but that would make it too OP. Considering we have a Pdef Buff that makes BMs tickle. Honestly I dont think wizards need anything to be added, rather than adding a new skill, they should rework the 100 skill.

Outlaw_Arch - Heavens Tear · November 2011

of all the old classes, i'd say venos need the most help.

Problem: venos have an entire skill tree geared toward phy build

fixes: the fox form tree need a major rework there are only like 2 worth while skills:amp and purge, everything else is a joke. skills need some dameage taken from a percentage of their phy attack like BM skills. in addtion, they need a weapon of some sort that gives them semi decent mag attac and decent phy attack. be it foxclaws or whips

Rawynn - Archosaur · November 2011

Bm's:

problem: magic aoe's (psyi) & Stealthed Sin

Solution: "Summon Of the Knight" For 2 sparks the bm gets to summon a Death Knight that would either stun unstealh a sin or swap places with the bm when attacked by raged magic taking the damage from the attack directly in place of the bm.

Lyritha - Heavens Tear · November 2011

Outlaw_Arch - Heavens Tear wrote: »

of all the old classes, i'd say venos need the most help.

Problem: venos have an entire skill tree geared toward phy build

fixes: the fox form tree need a major rework there are only like 2 worth while skills:amp and purge, everything else is a joke. skills need some dameage taken from a percentage of their phy attack like BM skills. in addtion, they need a weapon of some sort that gives them semi decent mag attac and decent phy attack. be it foxclaws or whips

magic swords already work fine, if the plan is to introduce a magic sword LA/HA set equal to rank 9 basically everything works as it stands

what needs to be done is allow for further upgrading of the pet itself... if this is done then some interval + magic sword attacks work just fine with the addition of the APS from the phoenix.

Purge is a huge advantage in this form if you've stunned the opposing player using parasitic nova or Occult Ice first

Sage Iron Wood + Tangling Mire would drop physical defense to 0 on a proper built genie... that being said the time to channel the skills for that big hit is worthless when compared to what you could do to a buffless person with amp/iron wood/tangling mire.

Cytte - Harshlands · November 2011

Wizards

Problem... Db& ember need to be within pole range to cast

Fix: Make then like BB, able to set up anywhere w/o a target

b:dirty self centered 50% stun chance =

Sarrafeline - Sanctuary · November 2011

Class: NA

Problem: Ran out of HP pots

Solution: The Ultra Unicorn of Happiness, an all-class skill.

For 3 sparks, you can summon a Ultra Unicorn of Happiness, which craps out Cheeseburgers of Happiness that restore 10k HP and 10k MP over 30 seconds. It has 12B HP, 100m PDef, and 100m MDef, and does an AOE of 120 damage over a range of 1800 meters, once every 3 seconds for 11 seconds. It lasts 2 minutes, and 'emits' 2 Cheesburgers every 5 seconds while it exists. When it's time is up, it does 492 bill damage over a range of 20M meters to all targets, player, mob, GM, etc (that happiness has to go SOMEWHERE) via 6 AOE's over a period of 20 seconds.

Yeah, I'm kinda bored... And hungry. I think I'll make a cheeseburger.

(Inspired by an episode of American Dad)

Tjikkie - Raging Tide · November 2011

All classes

AOE that doesnt need a target.

SoniMax - Sanctuary · November 2011

XXZeonXx - Harshlands wrote: »

Look veeerrryy closely at the Psy's skill. Look at the shade of his colours before and after the skill. They fade. Is that like an AoE stealth or something?

i hope so

PheosNyx - Sanctuary · November 2011

ICasTBiDS - Raging Tide wrote: »

Honestly I dont think wizards need anything to be added, rather than adding a new skill, they should rework the 100 skill.

^ This. I'm not gonna spend 40m on chrono pages to mana burn you, kthx.

XVBx - Dreamweaver · November 2011

Clerics

skill: something like the sin's anti stun. one that is both anti stun and a movement speed increase. even with holy path, clerics are still slow, while the tanks are fastb:surrender

Sins:
Idk, maybe another aoe....although that would probably be the final nail in the already near metallic coffin that is sin OPness

Mystics:
a defense and mag defense squad buff, equal or maybe a little less then the cleric ones, or maybe an increase mp squad buff. idk, they need a squad buff that isn't just their res.

they are the only classes i have really played enough to know much about.

Dralighte - Harshlands · November 2011

Guys, dont try to find the new skills, there's 98% chance it will be much expensive... ._.

gyroki · November 2011

Tjikkie - Raging Tide wrote: »

All classes

AOE that doesnt need a target.

Barbs had this, but they recently changed it b:angryb:angryb:angry
(Untamed Wrath, lvl 79 skill)

Nerfing a barb skill is like stealing a lollipop from a 2 year old.

Did they changed it because sins QQed about op barbs or wth was the reason???

Give us this skill back!

To be honest, in a balanced game barbs also would need an anit-dispell self-buff which lasts at least 15mins. And an anti-stun skill with low cooldown which works in tiger form.

Would be also nice if we could buff w/o weapon as bms can do it (even when their skill says something different). So we can buff squad at boss in instance and change character, without having to go back to banker for account stash. Or does any1 use a barb for something else than buffing nowaday?.

Nniotora - Lost City · November 2011

they should make seeker Adrenal Numbness buff as it was supposed to be +def lv and immune to stun as long as you had it YES this means 30min anti stun buff So give us our real buff back instead off a nerfed skill
or take our debuffs which are basic a wiz undine game will always have alot flaws in it

SmurfJegeren - Dreamweaver · November 2011

I dont see why Venos need a magic claw or anything like that for fox form. Magic swords works just fine, tho a bit low accuracy vs. high dex classes. But again, against them its usually better to use magic. As a HA build, I actually have more physical damage in fox form, than I have magic damage in human form(unless Im buffed, then it evens out perfectly).

Unsparked I have kept up with BMs and sins.

+10 Striking Dragons BM with 2x lvl 11 Garnets = (6668+7605)/2*4=28546(sparked:75645)
Me = (10642+12006)/2*2.22=25139.28(Sparked:76505-ish)

Considering that we arent a 100% melee class I think that is rather decent. Having a magic swords attack on a faster hitting claw with less magic attack would be fun, but wouldnt be fair towards the physical classes.

Id be happy to see anything that can help taking out sins(or a major sin nerf so that we can actually get something cool that works in more than one situation).

Kagusa - Sanctuary · November 2011

Where did you read that new skills are coming?

Stressedout - Dreamweaver · November 2011

The developer class needs an update to their forum reading skill = )

EithanPsy - Heavens Tear · November 2011

PSYCHICS

Problems: SINS ONLY WANNA KILLS PSYS CAUSE THEY CAN!

SOLUTION: Give us a buff so we can see sins! i mean they are of the same race as us we should be able to see sins for a short period of time! just to give us a little extra help! and if u think about it we r psychics we should be able to use our mind to find them! so its not thinking to far out of the box!!!!!

hehe

Vancore - Sanctuary · November 2011

EithanPsy - Heavens Tear wrote: »

PSYCHICS

Problems: SINS ONLY WANNA KILLS PSYS CAUSE THEY CAN!

SOLUTION: Give us a buff so we can see sins! i mean they are of the same race as us we should be able to see sins for a short period of time! just to give us a little extra help! and if u think about it we r psychics we should be able to use our mind to find them! so its not thinking to far out of the box!!!!!

hehe

i dont care who gets the dame detection skill so long as someone gets one

Deceptistar - Sanctuary · November 2011

Ceiba - Sanctuary wrote: »

I think (hope) that it would be constructive to heard what everyone thinks that is required for each class, and later compare it to whatever PW decides to come out with.

Extra, Veno pets should have better status depending on the venomancer gear just like Mystic summons.

Renza - Raging Tide wrote: »

Because a nix having increased stats by some +12 geared veno would be totally balanced to other casters, right?

This thread is a joke.
theres absolutely nothing contructive about this thread than a class wishing for its own OPness lol

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