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Ok, so i read the first cleric guide here in the Cleric forum section, and among all the stat builds it seemed like the LA build was just what I was looking for.
Good survivability, decent magic power and since I have been playing MMO's a long time not just your basic build for a brand new MMO'er.
Then I started reading a lot of threads on the subject and it seems like it turns out the LA build starts losing it's viability in higher levels and also it is meant more for PvP....which I am not interested in at all, in fact I joined a PvE server.
So now I am gonna re-roll....luckily I only made it to level 6, and I have a rule, I only play one character per MMO, cause I play a few and when I get bored and need a break playing an ALT does not cut it for me, I have to actually play a different game a while.
So, being that I want to play PvE only, want to be a strong party contributor as well as having good survivability solo'ing...what is the suggested stat split per level.
The barebones build in the first cleric guide shows as every two levels, 6 magic and 1 str to equip all robes and weapons and leaves 3 points to play with.
Is it advisable at all to do maybe this and alternate the 3 extra points 1 vitality 2 dex, then 2 vitality 1 dex the next two levels after and keep alternating that, meaning every four levels I would be adding 3 vitality and 3 dex.....would this allow me to be an adequate contributor in parties or would this simply be a waste of stat points.
Is 9 magic 1 str pretty much the only way to go for a truly powerful cleric? I was even thinking maybe 7 M 1S 1V 1D, just for a little extra HP and spell crits.
Well, any advice would be greatly appreciated, I am really wanting to start on this character without having to look back and I know skill selection and stat allocation are going to be the two things I will regret later if I **** it up now.
Good survivability, decent magic power and since I have been playing MMO's a long time not just your basic build for a brand new MMO'er.
Then I started reading a lot of threads on the subject and it seems like it turns out the LA build starts losing it's viability in higher levels and also it is meant more for PvP....which I am not interested in at all, in fact I joined a PvE server.
So now I am gonna re-roll....luckily I only made it to level 6, and I have a rule, I only play one character per MMO, cause I play a few and when I get bored and need a break playing an ALT does not cut it for me, I have to actually play a different game a while.
So, being that I want to play PvE only, want to be a strong party contributor as well as having good survivability solo'ing...what is the suggested stat split per level.
The barebones build in the first cleric guide shows as every two levels, 6 magic and 1 str to equip all robes and weapons and leaves 3 points to play with.
Is it advisable at all to do maybe this and alternate the 3 extra points 1 vitality 2 dex, then 2 vitality 1 dex the next two levels after and keep alternating that, meaning every four levels I would be adding 3 vitality and 3 dex.....would this allow me to be an adequate contributor in parties or would this simply be a waste of stat points.
Is 9 magic 1 str pretty much the only way to go for a truly powerful cleric? I was even thinking maybe 7 M 1S 1V 1D, just for a little extra HP and spell crits.
Well, any advice would be greatly appreciated, I am really wanting to start on this character without having to look back and I know skill selection and stat allocation are going to be the two things I will regret later if I **** it up now.
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If you wanted the extra survivability there is nothing wrong with adding a little extra vit, say 8 mag, 1 str, 1 vit every other level, capping the vit at say 50. You can still make just as good of a cleric with that. The important thing would be to make sure your refining your weapon if you do so, which really isn't that big of a deal. Pure build is also a great choice, even if you start out a little squishier. Don't put anything into dex, it does nothing for clerics if you aren't wearing Light Armor.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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OK, well I may not bother re-rolling then...I am at level 6 and so far have invested a total of 5 points of dex total, and 4 points of vitality...the rest magic and str, I can even out to go pure from here on out or maybe put in a little vitality here and there, I really do not think the points in dex is gonna kill my build from everything I have gathered so far but from here on out I will be going the 9/1 magic/str build......seems like you have such powerful casting that unless your sloppy enemies won't get to you solo'ing and with a party you shouldn't be frontline anyways.
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Dex is worthless on a cleric since all it'll be used for is crit and heals don't crit.
The only viable builds for a cleric anymore are pure mag and vit builds.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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Eoria - Harshlands wrote: »Dex is worthless on a cleric since all it'll be used for is crit and heals don't crit.
The only viable builds for a cleric anymore are pure mag and vit builds.
Well, like I said I only put five points into DEX, and I plan on stopping there, I really do not think that is going to kill my build, and the overabundance of STR I put in so far I can even out by just going full MAG for a few levels because I'll have the STR covered already.
I'm pretty sure my build will be fine if I stay 9/1 magic/str from here on out.
Thanks for the reply tho.
That first stickied cleric guide, even tho it's great, should mention that the 6M/2S/2D LA build is meant more for PvP, I would not have even started going down that path had I known.0 -
You're only level 6 reroll your character now instead of waiting to buy a restat note later. At your level 5 dex and a little vit is a lot.
You'll get back to lvl 6 real fast since you've already done the begginning. And it will be worth the extra hour or two down the road.Retired
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LA cleric has low magic survivability and low hp. I used to be a LA cleric, then turned into a hybrid. You can get phys defense amulet and necklace. Right now my cleric has average gear and I am over 5k hp unbuffed, 34% def w vanguard, 74% magic resist w magic shell, and 54% channeling. I am glad i am no longer LA.the loser fail nab cleric from dreamweaver who quit pwi, but still wanders the forums.0
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AiyanaGaia - Dreamweaver wrote: »Well, like I said I only put five points into DEX, and I plan on stopping there, I really do not think that is going to kill my build, and the overabundance of STR I put in so far I can even out by just going full MAG for a few levels because I'll have the STR covered already.
I'm pretty sure my build will be fine if I stay 9/1 magic/str from here on out.
Thanks for the reply tho.
That first stickied cleric guide, even tho it's great, should mention that the 6M/2S/2D LA build is meant more for PvP, I would not have even started going down that path had I known.
The dex will only be useful if you can manage to hit 20 dex. 20 dex = 1% crit.
Also, LA build isn't viable for anything anymore. And especially not PVP.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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Dont put dex at all. Think about it, 20 dex for 1% more damage? 20 mag would do you better.
I would go 9 mag 1 str build. Or maybe if youre poor go 8 mag 1 str 1 vit until you get about 20 vit then go to 9 mag 1 str.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
AiyanaGaia - Dreamweaver wrote: »Well, like I said I only put five points into DEX, and I plan on stopping there, I really do not think that is going to kill my build, and the overabundance of STR I put in so far I can even out by just going full MAG for a few levels because I'll have the STR covered already.
I'm pretty sure my build will be fine if I stay 9/1 magic/str from here on out.
Thanks for the reply tho.
That first stickied cleric guide, even tho it's great, should mention that the 6M/2S/2D LA build is meant more for PvP, I would not have even started going down that path had I known.
TBH, I would reroll since you are only level 6. Now that you know what you are doing it would take a couple of hours. But that dex is going to bother you when you get high level and would be way better invested in mana or vit. You don't want to regret that when you hit 100/101 and it takes extremely large amounts of exp for that little extra stat points. And vit builds have nothing to do with being sloppy, its more a play style thing.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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I do agree that you should reroll your character. You're only level 6, so rerolling another character will not be a big deal. Trust me, dex is not a very useful attribute on a cleric. I made the same mistake of adding dex at an early level, and had to restat. I'd like to save you that trouble. The points that you have in dex now will serve you much better in magic, or in vit. 5 dex for an arcane build is 5 points that are wasted. I know that it seems like it would be a hassle to reroll a character due to 5 dex, but rerolling now will save you later on. Its your cleric, and its up to you whatever you choose to do, but if I were in your shoes, I would reroll your cleric, and make a fresh one. Hope that helps. Take care, and good luck in game...and more importantly, have fun."Male Player using female toon. Please don't flirt with me."
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Mkay, wow it just seems like such a small small amount of points to have to reroll over, but I do want this character to be made proper from the start...even tho when there is any kind of customization proper is more a matter of opinion than fact......even still I want a character I will enjoy and I enjoy playing a character that will best utilize what they are initially meant to do....so I guess reroll I will...I think I am actually more hesitant to have to redo the character look thingy...I spent I think just two hours there working on my characters look...very complex system....lots of options. b:chuckle0
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Okay, I finally re-rolled, I'm actually already up to level 8 and I re-did everything I had done on my first character. I can see what you mean about how the extra magic damage usually keeps the monsters from even getting to you.......I was doing one quest today and I was hitting for just enough with my Cyclone and Plume Shot so it was killing them in two shots....the monsters could not even get to me....especially when the Cyclone debuff landed.
I'm putting my STR point on even levels...is this okay, hopefully it doesn't make a difference...going 9/1 BTW b:pleased
I also took a quest from the Sage Master guy in Plume and I chose the Strength one thinking I was going to get the options to take all of them, I wasn't supposed to take a different one for cleric was I, or will I eventually get a chance to do all seven?
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AiyanaGaia - Dreamweaver wrote: »Okay, I finally re-rolled, I'm actually already up to level 8 and I re-did everything I had done on my first character. I can see what you mean about how the extra magic damage usually keeps the monsters from even getting to you.......I was doing one quest today and I was hitting for just enough with my Cyclone and Plume Shot so it was killing them in two shots....the monsters could not even get to me....especially when the Cyclone debuff landed.
I'm putting my STR point on even levels...is this okay, hopefully it doesn't make a difference...going 9/1 BTW b:pleased
I also took a quest from the Sage Master guy in Plume and I chose the Strength one thinking I was going to get the options to take all of them, I wasn't supposed to take a different one for cleric was I, or will I eventually get a chance to do all seven?
Thanks again for all the help b:pleased
That quest, from the sage, has to do with getting a lvl 90 weapon which you most likely will not get. It is a useless quest unless you plan to spend 90+ mil getting badges to use a weapon that is surpassed by many other things.
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AiyanaGaia - Dreamweaver wrote: »Mkay, wow it just seems like such a small small amount of points to have to reroll over, but I do want this character to be made proper from the start...even tho when there is any kind of customization proper is more a matter of opinion than fact......even still I want a character I will enjoy and I enjoy playing a character that will best utilize what they are initially meant to do....so I guess reroll I will...I think I am actually more hesitant to have to redo the character look thingy...I spent I think just two hours there working on my characters look...very complex system....lots of options. b:chuckle
You can save your characters looks by going to modify character and then hitting save on the box to the panel on your left with list of other presets. So you don't have to ever redo your characters look if you don't want to. Also you get a free makeover scroll around level 30-ish so if you wanted to change your characters look then you'd be able to do so and still go back to the look you have now. In additon after level 30s all dq items give you dq points, which you can redeem for free makeover scrolls and other free items. Don't worry about items you don't understand, you'll come across what they mean when you're of the level to use em. DQ items that say something along the lines of this "Elemental fragement (this is required for Dragon Quest blah blah (31)" btw.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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VenusArmani - Dreamweaver wrote: »You can save your characters looks by going to modify character and then hitting save on the box to the panel on your left with list of other presets. So you don't have to ever redo your characters look if you don't want to. Also you get a free makeover scroll around level 30-ish so if you wanted to change your characters look then you'd be able to do so and still go back to the look you have now. In additon after level 30s all dq items give you dq points, which you can redeem for free makeover scrolls and other free items. Don't worry about items you don't understand, you'll come across what they mean when you're of the level to use em. DQ items that say something along the lines of this "Elemental fragement (this is required for Dragon Quest blah blah (31)" btw.
Awesome......yeah I had saved my last character customization settings actually and was just able to use that so creation was not so painful this time.
I just usually pick up every quest I can so I don't pass anything up....being as I don't roll ALT's I'm a bit of a flower sniffer LOL
Have to say...some of the monsters are starting to look cooler now as I am moving on, but in the starter areas some of them are like....uhmmm.....just not scary looking LOL....hope this is just a starter area thing.
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AiyanaGaia - Dreamweaver wrote: »Awesome......yeah I had saved my last character customization settings actually and was just able to use that so creation was not so painful this time.
I just usually pick up every quest I can so I don't pass anything up....being as I don't roll ALT's I'm a bit of a flower sniffer LOL
Have to say...some of the monsters are starting to look cooler now as I am moving on, but in the starter areas some of them are like....uhmmm.....just not scary looking LOL....hope this is just a starter area thing.
I love the character animations though, and flying rocks b:pleased
Sadly, PWI is rather lacking in mob design, and tends to use the same mob skins but with different names. Or they might recolour the mob a little bit and try passing it off as a whole new mob b:chuckle[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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Vedovis - Lost City wrote: »Sadly, PWI is rather lacking in mob design, and tends to use the same mob skins but with different names. Or they might recolour the mob a little bit and try passing it off as a whole new mob b:chuckle
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Vedovis - Lost City wrote: »Sadly, PWI is rather lacking in mob design, and tends to use the same mob skins but with different names. Or they might recolour the mob a little bit and try passing it off as a whole new mob b:chuckle
That is situation in most of games. At least those i have played.0 -
They do it with bosses too there are atleast 5 wyvern clones in PWI =/PWI b:bye0
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oh yeah btw that cleric build thread. That was written in 2008-2009vvaiyanavv wrote: »Ok, so i read the first cleric guide here in the Cleric forum section, and among all the stat builds it seemed like the LA build was just what I was looking for.
Right now in 2011, theres alot of new gear introduced and new upgrades that are out. Almost all of the refining and gem sharding that were deemed impossible to reach are small obstacles now. With those changes taken place, currently arcane armour gives u the most out of your money in terms of defensive and offensive returns
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