Venos - New pets any better?

Shadowphreak - Lost City
Shadowphreak - Lost City Posts: 151 Arc User
edited November 2011 in General Discussion
Just started a newb alt veno out of boredom. Looking over all the veno guides it raves about Glacier Walkers, Varicose Scorpion, Petite Sawfly and Blazing Phoenix.

These guides I found were made before the seeker/mystic patch and extra territory (new monsters). Is there any new pets that are equivalent or better then these?

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  • VenusArmani - Dreamweaver
    VenusArmani - Dreamweaver Posts: 6,009 Arc User
    edited November 2011
    IIRC no new tamable mobs in the EG area so Glacial Walker is still where its at, yo.
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  • Shadowphreak - Lost City
    Shadowphreak - Lost City Posts: 151 Arc User
    edited November 2011
    sweet candy thanks!
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  • Alasen - Heavens Tear
    Alasen - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,874 Arc User
    edited November 2011
    get a skatefish instead of a bee.... wont' have to listen to that ANNOYING noise.... lol they're bout the same in stats.... unles u can get a flying pig for a air pet but that's for harder things (if u can't get a nix the pig's your air tank).

    And the scorp.... ya it's got like 600 more attack at 100 compared to a Dark WAnderer or sea monster guardian. but..... again.... scorp has a constant annoying noise too i think. lololol Idk I'd rather a fight take a couple min longer then have to listen to that damn noise all the time but that's just me.

    Dark wanderer's the black horses with a lich or something riding it by Nightfire Altar. The Seamonster Guardian's are originally Ebony Helldukes by the glacial walkers (and skaefish are OVER the walkers btw). Wanderer's your attacker for bosses that aoe physical, Guardian's for bossses that aoe magic.
  • sangodoc
    sangodoc Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited November 2011
    get a skatefish instead of a bee.... wont' have to listen to that ANNOYING noise.... lol they're bout the same in stats.... unles u can get a flying pig for a air pet but that's for harder things (if u can't get a nix the pig's your air tank).
    The Cloud Skatefish, however, is slightly worse than the Petite Sawfly in all respects. The Windwalking Piggy is actually much worse than either of them, except for PDef and MDef, where it is quite a bit better than them (37% and 27% better than the Sawfly, respectively).
    And the scorp.... ya it's got like 600 more attack at 100 compared to a Dark WAnderer or sea monster guardian. but..... again.... scorp has a constant annoying noise too i think. lololol Idk I'd rather a fight take a couple min longer then have to listen to that damn noise all the time but that's just me.
    Actually, at level 100 the Dark Wanderer has a DPS of about 20-270 more (depending on skill level) than the Varicose Scorpion because it has a faster attack rate than the Scorpion. The Seamonster Guardian also slightly beats out the Scorpion for the same reason.

    See Ecatomb's Pet Simulator for details.
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  • SylenThunder - Twilight Temple
    edited November 2011
    Yes, Sawfly is stil the best non-nix air pet, but it's freaking the most annoying pet you can have.

    Skatefish isn't that far off and I like the skills it comes with better. Lost Slow and replaced it with Flesh Ream.

    for non-herc tanking I still stand my walker with Bash, Roar, Flesh Ream and Tough. Higher DPS than just about any pet at the same level as it and it's damn tough.
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  • Alasen - Heavens Tear
    Alasen - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,874 Arc User
    edited November 2011
    LOL i never noticed that pet simulator b4... but how the hell u change the 3 listed pets?
  • Yahtzee - Raging Tide
    Yahtzee - Raging Tide Posts: 22 Arc User
    edited November 2011
    LOL i never noticed that pet simulator b4... but how the hell u change the 3 listed pets?

    The only way I figured out to change it is to change the level range, seems ecatomb is set up that way. t's still good for comparing stats but is annoying to find all the info among the creatures you're not interested it >.<

    On Topic: There are no tameable pets in the Earthguard region as far as I know.
  • Alasen - Heavens Tear
    Alasen - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,874 Arc User
    edited November 2011
    ahh there ya go... change the lvl to 100 and hit ok



    Name.......................HP.......Atk.......P.def ..............M.def.............Acc.....Dodge...Atk/s...m/s....dps

    Blazing Phoenix..........3821...4922...9952 (71%)....11942 (74%)..2887...1698.....1.....11 ...5212
    Petite Sawfly.............2529...3966....6588 (62%)....6588 (62%)...2192....1349...0.6....8.9...2923
    Cloud Skatefish..........2494...3904....6491 (61%)....6491 (61%)...2164...1328...0.6....8.9...2878


    Ya.............. the sawfly outdoes the skatfish by soooooooo much *cough* lol

    When it's just your DD'er..... (like i said the pig's your air tank if u can't get a nix... ya Sang we all know the attacks on rare pets are nerfed to being weak but thnx anyway), this little difference in stats in a AIR pet you'll barely use isnt' going to make much of a difference. Then again i dont' PK.
  • zionwarrior
    zionwarrior Posts: 123 Arc User
    edited November 2011
    Few things though if given the proper skills a scorp DOES have the potential to have more DD via over time with bash ream claw and lighting strike then a DW or guardian as well it just depends as to how its built.
    The scorp has the lowest of the mag and phy def though but it has the higest eva and dmg per actual hit due to the DW and guardian have slightly faster attack rate you actually dont have a fast enough actual attack increase to noticably make it much different.
    The scorp is for pure DD and pvp oriented dmg as to that but isnt an actual tank pet but it does due to its higher dmg potential at 100 have higher dmg when given the right skills even if you give the DW and guardian the same skills their higher att rate isn't high enough to create a difference.
    Due to it isnt high enough to get the effect of one more hit rather it would be about 10-15 hits to get 1 extra timewise if not more by that time the scorp has alrdy done over 3-4 hit worth of extra dmg just a bit of info on that one its why I perfer scorp to the others and sawfly is still the best it may have an annoying sound effect if so just turn it off under the UI interface as for water I recommend the lvl5 turtle if you have the patience to lvl it, if not get whatever you want as you lvl up.
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  • MageMERC - Harshlands
    MageMERC - Harshlands Posts: 1,600 Arc User
    edited November 2011
    Just started a newb alt veno out of boredom. Looking over all the veno guides it raves about Glacier Walkers, Varicose Scorpion, Petite Sawfly and Blazing Phoenix.

    These guides I found were made before the seeker/mystic patch and extra territory (new monsters). Is there any new pets that are equivalent or better then these?

    Cheerio! b:victory

    If your bored, DONT start a veno. Mystics take a lot more thought and have more interesting skills. If you dont by a herc you'll get bored with a veno too.
  • Alasen - Heavens Tear
    Alasen - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,874 Arc User
    edited November 2011
    um y in the hell would u put FOUR attack skills on a pet? your'e going to want tough at least in case it gets ganged up on. and personally i like roar on everything for fast aggro in case i hit too hard, or get ganged up on and i dont' have to wait for it to actuallyl HIT the extra mob. Plus both my guardian and Wanderer have howl, to help casters DD more. But that's me... idk.... They're DD'ers... in other words pets for extra Dmg when i'm not tanking. Hence Howl (since i have ironwood for physical). And before u ask, i have both cause wanderes big on Physical defense and Guardian's big on magical, for AOE's on thing's i'm not tanking with the walker.

    And turn the effects off if the bee's too annoying? lol then u can't hear ANYTHING, like a mob hitting you if you turn to the tv for a sec for instance.
  • Yami_ - Dreamweaver
    Yami_ - Dreamweaver Posts: 225 Arc User
    edited November 2011
    Lol Venomancers using scorpions is soo 2007 xD when we cannot fly on TW's lol.
  • clariacza
    clariacza Posts: 3 Arc User
    edited November 2011
    We'll im using my Shaodu cub and fly and im happy b:victory

    I don't think i'll go for herc or nix as my barb could kill a veno with her herc and nix and i don't like the fat herc b:surrender although the nix looks hawt b:dirty
  • Sarrafeline - Sanctuary
    Sarrafeline - Sanctuary Posts: 4,661 Arc User
    edited November 2011
    Yes, Sawfly is stil the best non-nix air pet, but it's freaking the most annoying pet you can have.

    Skatefish isn't that far off and I like the skills it comes with better. Lost Slow and replaced it with Flesh Ream.

    for non-herc tanking I still stand my walker with Bash, Roar, Flesh Ream and Tough. Higher DPS than just about any pet at the same level as it and it's damn tough.

    Nix is pretty damn annoying as well.

    Hence, I named mine 'Squawky'. >_>
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