Short TW

Lol zan

I had to leave early during the dyna war due to rl issues, but the time that i was there i thoroughly enjoyed it.

lol i dont get it. is that a QQ thread from ds again? like when u lost against IT ? XD

6 in ur squad, and 4 are multiclient. and i saw 2 lvl 105 R9+12 noobs atacking crystal.

b:laughb:cryb:bye

20:00 - Gladio attacks Regenesis, Dragon Wilderness
20:03 - Dynasty attacks Regenesis, Hidden Orchid
20:06 - Spades attacks Regenesis, Silk Ridge


ok im not sure whats the ? but this is a simple allocation of forces is all to make this happen .

say regen pulls 120 for tw's just saying if they do then this is a way they could do it they send 80 to first fight have 40 going to send none to 3rd yet . they go into first one grab catas dont set anything up rush down b take out crystal. this can be done in as little as 5 mins if the other factions has less then 30 equally equipped players. they in mean time in battle 2 turtle w there 40 till other 40 shows up and then can either send 40 to 3rd fight or continue to turtle against a equal matched faction till they take 3rd out then full force that battle. hence they win all 3 .

The times set up very nicely for a 3 way gank and not knowing gladios numbers and such but based on time it took regen cant have been a great turn out. this would only work best if it was the 3 highest faction in game other then regen pulling it off and then the first 2 would have to turtle at first to make regen spread out. longer each faction held regen off the better it would go for them . but even then its a chance thing but possible for a longer tw vs regen

ApocaIypto - Dreamweaver wrote: »

thing is we know u ds, biggest QQer on server lol
linking that vid is just a way to "hey look at me im DS we lost QQ regen sux cause sent too many ppl QQ"
i remember that from ur war against IT b:pleased
gladio LF 5 aps bm and 5 aps sin for tw b:pleased

They have 5 aps barbs too. Go run and tell that homeboy.

I experienced pretty decent tw, 1h is just long enough:). i know that regenesis didnt put all out and tw was rather like pk-fest, but i liked it that way, cause i was abel to test first time my decent geared seeker.

Let's humor this attempt of "conversation"

A 3 way gank consist of (hopefully) 240 people trying to take down a 200 member faction. In reality, I've never seen any faction keep over 70% of their roster TW active, at least not in Dreamweaver.

Regenesis has sent a max of 132 to deal with 3 way ganks, this weekend, we had a bit less than 110 in the 3 wars, which explains why we took so long to wrap up Dynasty and Spades wars.

In practice, to split an active roster of 132 players (110ish this weekend) to 3 wars would be suicidal, there's no way we can hold Dynasty or Spades with 35ish members. With the current rank environment and how they have progressed tactically, we are required at least 50+ to hold a TW against them, with all the tactical limitations this includes.

So all in all, you can pick this up:
1- the first TW slot will always be forced to a 5 minute bash. The defending faction has 2 options:
Force a crystal bash like gladio did, and lose.
Try to defend for over 6 minutes and force us to decide who gets a free land: first slot of third slot.
2- the third slot is always the one that will either get a free land or a big force in their faces, depending how the first and second wars are goin.
3- the second slot has the most fun TW.

When we fight Dynasty and Spades, we have been splitting our roster evenly under our new management, to make sure TWs are more fun for everyone. Back in my days, I'd be cycling 80 people systematically to finish TW 1, 2 and 3 in under 20 minutes total, but I must admit, splitting our roster is a fun challenge for both attacking factions, as it is for us playing defense.

Sadly, gladio was aware that they couldn't hold 80 regens for over 5 minutes (TW lasted roughly 4 minutes and 30 seconds, a record for us) so they decided to trade crystals by running A-C catas.

Now this strategy worked for Dynasty in the past, because they understood that B path is shorter than A-C (by simply using logic. Something other factions seem to lack) so instead of sending all their forces A-C they kept a small defending force in B, that managed to slow down the cata push enough so that their side catas would reach the crystal before ours.

Gladio didn't even build B road towers... When I reach their base they were just making B gate towers...

Hope you addapt your tactic in the future, for a faction that brags about being the best in the server, that was a very poor display of TW smarts.

Did I do it right?

Well I'm gonna tell you a story,

There was this faction we fought once that did one thing to us in TW that cost us 1 land that weekend.

As 1 of our cata barbs was entering their B gate, I saw 2 wizards casting and 2 sins pop out of stealth and squish the poor barb. By the time the barb rezzed up, their faction had already destroyed the catapult the barb was pulling.

We pushed them back to crystal, setup with 3 catas, but then one of our other barb setup wrong, and was attacking a tower. While all of this was happening, they had catas on a side lane that entered our base, we had to remove some squads from offense to defense, because it wasn't certain we'd win the crystal bash.

The third war began, so we moved all offensive squads to it, as we assumed that the catas in their base would be enough to finish off the job. We assumed wrong, our catas died with no support. I (I was leading TW back then) suddenly put the faction in the risk of losing 2 TWs until BB overcalled me and ordered to not join the third war, and come back to the first war.

Since then, our tactics of cata protection changed. But the story still stand for proof that, given the correct circumstances and the right time. You can make a difference in TW with 4 people, or 12 people.

Let me give you a more recent example. This weekend, after we ended TW vs your faction, our squad was ordered to go to Dynasty war, we were making a cata push on a side lane, when BB ordered us to move to spades war, apparently spades dropped our crystal to 8m or something. We moved 1 squad I believe. Suddenly, Spades war was controlled, and we would eventually make catapult pushes into their crystal to finish, while Dynasty war became what CatManDoo described on another thread as a PK fest, which was really our own way to turtle xD

See this is the main problem of "the resistance". When Ajay was leading Equinox, the 3 factions attacking us (as in Calamity) had a purpose. They knew from the start who was meant to delay a push, to split a roster, and who was meant to take a land. This was reflected on their bid-order... They had accepted that role silently, because it was better for them to see us stand at +1/-1 landwise at the end of the weekend, than seeing us +1/0. You don't see that anymore.

The more we keep fragmenting the server underdogs with Gladio, Emergence and Tempest. The least likely are Spades and Dynasty to succeed, in what it is by now, a very decent attempt to make us lose. I'm telling you, if Gladio, Emergence and Tempest was to either merge into 1 faction, or be absorbed by Dyna and Spades, we might just have very interesting TW weekends coming up.

Edit: I remember everything about TW. I watch my TWs again after I'm done, during our post-TW meetings to go over my mistakes. This week mistakes were fun xD

1- We were ordered to leave Dynasty war around 10 minutes into the war, after stopping a Dynasty A lane push that had their 3 wizards in the lane. I left the war, and moved to Spades war, but by mistake clicked on the territory inside Dynasty. Now here's something funny. Since the TW map is the same for every instance, I saw the dots of my teammates near me, but couldn't see my teammates. That's when I finally read the name of then instance, facepalmed, and went out again.

2- I lost my buffs 30 minutes into the Spades war, I saw the veno coming for the purge, and I clicked on my bar key where I normally put my absolute domain (I don't use the genie bar to click for skills, as it's sometimes buggy or just laggy, I use my skillbar instead). I forgot I had taken my genie out before TW to reset some points so domain never came up, and I got purged.

3- After my first death, I towned and ran out unbuffed our C gate to support a catapult push, I didn't see Spades had 3 of their rank 9 archers out on C lane. So I died pretty fast. I was frustrated (first deaths in TW in over 2 months), so I used my rez scroll without thinking. Rezzed up unbuffed and sealed within firing range of 3 rank 9 archers... gladly my squad was within range, so I lived through, or I'd have been pissed x.x

StacysMum - Dreamweaver wrote: »

Jesus Andres give us a break, just be rude, blunt and both barrels. Nobody wants to see 'all a dat' you're turning this into work damnit.

I live and breathe TW, or any kind of organized PvP honestly, I'm sorry if my passion offends you b:sad

I'm not always rude :P I'm generally forced to be rude, but most of the times, I'm a really decent guy, should you or anyone look for my advice, you'll always get it in the most friendly way I can possibly offer it... If it's within my reach, I'll always help, disregarding faction tags or allegiances.

Now if you're a ****, of course I won't even give you a chance... Let's just say I believe same personalities clash b:chuckle

My recollections and pointers, like any other post from anyone in this forums, are just an opinion, you are free to read it, not read it, critique it, agree to it, disagree to it... I don't agree with most of the stuff that you say too

seaspray0 wrote: »

What's the point of TW if you have one faction constantly dominate the map?

This is what will happen anyway every time a server gets a reset. One faction will control the whole map just like it is on every other server. It's not Regen's fault that we control everything, i remember at the start of reset no one attacked us, so we attacked, we were never denied atleast one tw a weekend. But we only started getting attacked when it was too late, when we already started controlling the majority of the map.

Personally the whole tw system is flawed in my opinion, maybe if our lazy devs put a limit on how many lands one faction is allowed to control it could change things.

Also the money that we get from lands pay for our charms (barely) so its not alot really.

Also why do you have to necro such an old thread let it go lol.

pwiqq wrote: »

its not your fault that your born ugly its your parents fault
cool sotry bro b:bye

Someone ban pqiqq forum access already lol he posts 3 of the same QQ starting threads in general all the time just to start trolling and the insults gah.....Now he has made me start QQ FFS

pwiqq wrote: »

its not your fault that your born ugly its your parents fault
cool sotry bro b:bye

It was my fault you were born ugly. Did your mom ever tell you how you got that hideous indention in your forehead? Go ask her son.