Grinders dead after new update

autolikos
autolikos Posts: 10 Arc User
edited November 2011 in General Discussion
The last time they released a non cs instance is before 2 years ( Nirvana)
The question is simple...Who would like to have non cs TT armors after new update?
r8 -r8 recast-r9 has made tt farming so worthless... r8 recast may give minus interval bonus to all armors xd and of course godly resistances and bonuses.
I dont mind csing a little but the amount of what you get with 20 backs a month is relatively to little...
I think TT instance has become like lunar now... Pretty much dead.
I am really intrerested in every argument on that plz ...
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  • Xarathox - Dreamweaver
    Xarathox - Dreamweaver Posts: 1,657 Arc User
    edited November 2011
    Full squads in TT isn't the norm anymore. Mostly just solos or duos between all the -int. players.

    Lunar is pretty much dead on my server. Dev's killed any real chance of that route being common with the 3mil entrance fee. Might see some WCs for lunar every once in a while during a 2x drop event, or maybe for Lunar BH but that's it.
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  • StormHydra - Sanctuary
    StormHydra - Sanctuary Posts: 2,221 Arc User
    edited November 2011
    If you're not part of a big higher level guild and you're not a veno/high aps char or you don't have a squad of friends which you run TT everyday then there's a very small chance of you doing TT
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  • autolikos
    autolikos Posts: 10 Arc User
    edited November 2011
    i mean tt mats price is downfalling.. cause tt armors are bull.. compared to r8 recast.
    I dont know if i like the game anymore.there is no way to play ftp anymore. Merchanting also is going so down ....
  • Xarathox - Dreamweaver
    Xarathox - Dreamweaver Posts: 1,657 Arc User
    edited November 2011
    autolikos wrote: »
    i mean tt mats price is downfalling.. cause tt armors are bull.. compared to r8 recast.
    I dont know if i like the game anymore.there is no way to play ftp anymore. Merchanting also is going so down ....


    Rank 8 recast is ridiculously expensive. There isn't a single person on my server that I know of that has any piece of their rank 8 recasted yet. Mainly due to 9 trials not being done a whole lot but by a small handful of guilds.

    Edit: In other words, there couldn't be that many recast mats floating around yet.
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  • LittlePony - Dreamweaver
    LittlePony - Dreamweaver Posts: 144 Arc User
    edited November 2011
    Xarathox - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    There isn't a single person on my server that I know of that has any piece of their rank 8 recasted
    Traz got chest peice from trials :)

    Decent coins people can get from TT 3-3 spam runs but need awesome gear for it to do solo\dual or trio runs
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  • Yuniryu - Raging Tide
    Yuniryu - Raging Tide Posts: 516 Arc User
    edited November 2011
    To right grinders is dead. No suprise at all b:victory
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  • Quilue - Sanctuary
    Quilue - Sanctuary Posts: 5,787 Arc User
    edited November 2011
    What kind of idiocy is going on here? R8/R9 recast is so expensive it's ridiculous. To say that this, THIS, is the thing that killed TT, wow.

    Pretty sure TT died when R8 went on sale period.
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  • Traz - Dreamweaver
    Traz - Dreamweaver Posts: 2,843 Arc User
    edited November 2011
    Quilue - Sanctuary wrote: »
    What kind of idiocy is going on here? R8/R9 recast is so expensive it's ridiculous. To say that this, THIS, is the thing that killed TT, wow.

    Pretty sure TT died when R8 went on sale period.

    I bought mine straight out for 130m (which cost less then my nirvana plate) so wtf everyone talking about crazy expensive?
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  • Quilue - Sanctuary
    Quilue - Sanctuary Posts: 5,787 Arc User
    edited November 2011
    and for a little more you'd have a piece of R9.

    What I was saying about expenses mostly applies to R9 recast anyway. The point is that THIS alone is not what killed TT.
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  • Traz - Dreamweaver
    Traz - Dreamweaver Posts: 2,843 Arc User
    edited November 2011
    Quilue - Sanctuary wrote: »
    and for a little more you'd have a piece of R9.

    r9 plate doesn't give me -int.
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  • Quilue - Sanctuary
    Quilue - Sanctuary Posts: 5,787 Arc User
    edited November 2011
    Traz - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    r9 plate doesn't give me -int.

    -int, as a R9 barb? Can't you reach 5.0 with it anyway? Even as a BM I'd get R9 for the def lvl set bonus in TW.
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  • Traz - Dreamweaver
    Traz - Dreamweaver Posts: 2,843 Arc User
    edited November 2011
    Quilue - Sanctuary wrote: »
    -int, as a R9 barb? Can't you reach 5.0 with it anyway? Even as a BM I'd get R9 for the def lvl set bonus in TW.

    I'm sage. *Goes off to reroll so I'm 5.0 base*
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  • Aasaf - Sanctuary
    Aasaf - Sanctuary Posts: 356 Arc User
    edited November 2011
    At the end of the day it is not the armour that will put the dent in your pocket, be it r8, r9, tt, nirvana. It will be getting all of them to +12. That is the real expense. Until no new sale for +11, +12 comes out, this will be the expense, and even if it does come out. 50 gold for 1 +12 orb. There are 10 armour pieces = 10x50=500 gold. +11 was 33 gold i believe = 33x10= 330, +10 is 20 gold = 20x10 = 200. Just getting your armour from +9 to +12 on sale for these items = 1030 gold. If someone uses dorbs from +7 or +5 onwards, the cost goes closer to 2k gold.

    As Traz pointed out, none of the armour pieces are expensive to get. Merchanting, credit card mastery, gifts, farming will get you those items. Refining them is where the trouble really starts. I am assuming this is under PVE, but same applies for PVP, if the gear is not refined, having r9 with 0 refines will not help you much.

    But i think the OP might be joking with us b:laugh.
  • mafiamk
    mafiamk Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited November 2011
    wat killed hh was the gold prices and the rank sales...not fun playing a game were everybody has the same gear some variety is needed and with the ridiculous 1mil gold prices gear can be goten easier and since people are lazy now adays they rather charge some zen and get there rank gear and buy frost to lv up this game ITS NOT WAT IT USED TO BE NOW IS JUST WHO HAS THE BIGGEST PAYCHECK but ofc the majority f2p game are likes these now a days since they need money to pay for maintance servers etc... though i think they should atleast pay attention to our issues since we pay so much to play the game MAKE THE GAME MORE FUN best times i had were at my 8x frost wen no one was selling it then one day 1 sins pop ups in wc SELLING FROST b:cry so long happy days
  • OIdpop - Heavens Tear
    OIdpop - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,052 Arc User
    edited November 2011
    i spent over 500mill + on 2 weapons the past 2 months..and only cs 60 gold..whats goin on hereizzle lol
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  • Sarrafeline - Sanctuary
    Sarrafeline - Sanctuary Posts: 4,661 Arc User
    edited November 2011
    Traz - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    I'm sage. *Goes off to reroll so I'm 5.0 base*

    Epic!

    Now if only you were 5.0 with axes, that would be... Kinda... gamebreaking.

    Which I'm guessing is the next thing that they're gonna 'give us'.

    As for the farming/grinding being dead...

    I just made a TT80Gold set (minus chest) for my BM/Barb. BM cause... I can use it now. Barb is gonna be a Gamma Barb. Instead of running TT until the necessary gold mats dropped... I chipped them. Was cheaper that way, there weren't enough for sale via shops and AH, and I'd be doing TT's for weeks to get enough to drop to actually make the damn gear. Next up is the chest, which again, I will be chipping the gold mats.

    Months ago, even years ago, I would have never even thought about chipping it and would have insisted upon running the instance until they dropped. I'd have the other mats necessary to make them, coins from selling the other mats, and have had fun while doing it.

    Now, however, nobody is buying the mats I wouldn't have needed (look at the number of catshops by forges, it's... Dead as hell), drop rates seem to be lower, and it's hard to even get people to open a Squad Mode TT, much less a squad to do it. Get a gold drop? They all want to sell and split. Doing it solo can take a long time, unless you're a high APS character, and unless you're a sin, you still have to kill the mobs to get to the boss that drops the mats anyway.

    TT's pretty much done for. Just put a Sign of Force: Twilight in some ****ing pack with a reasonable drop rate and turn TT into an exp instance please. >_>
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  • _Ghoul_ - Lost City
    _Ghoul_ - Lost City Posts: 973 Arc User
    edited November 2011
    fish killed tt end of story.

    sure many ppl nowday buy rank but if there was no fish and no bp ppl would still need ep and in most cases party to do it.

    farming bha all ull get is fish getting the best drops anyways best it dies so at least
    no singel class can get rich out of it cos there so many fish nowdays i for one prefer sharge sen then play one of them stinking fishies
  • _Ghoul_ - Lost City
    _Ghoul_ - Lost City Posts: 973 Arc User
    edited November 2011
    fish haters
  • John_Smith - Harshlands
    John_Smith - Harshlands Posts: 865 Arc User
    edited November 2011
    Sarrafeline - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Epic!

    Now if only you were 5.0 with axes, that would be... Kinda... gamebreaking.

    Which I'm guessing is the next thing that they're gonna 'give us'.

    As for the farming/grinding being dead...

    I just made a TT80Gold set (minus chest) for my BM/Barb. BM cause... I can use it now. Barb is gonna be a Gamma Barb. Instead of running TT until the necessary gold mats dropped... I chipped them. Was cheaper that way, there weren't enough for sale via shops and AH, and I'd be doing TT's for weeks to get enough to drop to actually make the damn gear. Next up is the chest, which again, I will be chipping the gold mats.

    Months ago, even years ago, I would have never even thought about chipping it and would have insisted upon running the instance until they dropped. I'd have the other mats necessary to make them, coins from selling the other mats, and have had fun while doing it.

    Now, however, nobody is buying the mats I wouldn't have needed (look at the number of catshops by forges, it's... Dead as hell), drop rates seem to be lower, and it's hard to even get people to open a Squad Mode TT, much less a squad to do it. Get a gold drop? They all want to sell and split. Doing it solo can take a long time, unless you're a high APS character, and unless you're a sin, you still have to kill the mobs to get to the boss that drops the mats anyway.

    TT's pretty much done for. Just put a Sign of Force: Twilight in some ****ing pack with a reasonable drop rate and turn TT into an exp instance please. >_>

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