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  • Yuniryu - Raging Tide
    Yuniryu - Raging Tide Posts: 516 Arc User
    edited November 2011
    Seeker is aoe tank not a tanker!. That means we tank pulls, when it comes to 1to1 basically bosses the other classes ideal barb or sin or bm can do the job better then us because they hold aggro better and sin and bm have aps.

    =D. Sure seeker can take some hits, but barbs can take more ;p
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  • Abstractive - Archosaur
    Abstractive - Archosaur Posts: 1,232 Arc User
    edited November 2011
    Seeker is aoe tank not a tanker!. That means we tank pulls, when it comes to 1to1 basically bosses the other classes ideal barb or sin or bm can do the job better then use because they hold aggro better and sin and bm have aps.

    =D. Sure seeker can take some hits, but barbs can take more ;p

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  • Yuniryu - Raging Tide
    Yuniryu - Raging Tide Posts: 516 Arc User
    edited November 2011
    Yuni sweety. b:kiss

    XD hi. Whoops spelling error lol.b:flower.
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  • XXZeonXx - Harshlands
    XXZeonXx - Harshlands Posts: 372 Arc User
    edited November 2011
    BMs are
    more useful for any squad
    actually wanted and needed everywhere, in every aspect of the game (doh! right!)


    while sins hit like more than all other classes together (damage = tank) bm is the #2 tank but can aoe better and is more squad-friendly, sooo many aoes


    BM has TONS of Skills - tons of aoes
    Seeker would most likely use one single skill, all the time, always, always vortex,
    mp charm vortex AFK bai


    but seeker girls look pretty

    so uhm seeker

    ps: everyone hates assasins, glad you dont make another stinky fish

    I agree; Seeker girls are pretty. I would've made one and leveled it if I hadn't already learned a ton of sage skills.

    Anyway, any Seeker who uses vortex as their only AoE in PvE probably isn't very smart. We're not considered an AoE DD class because of vortex alone.
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  • Kinjareta - Archosaur
    Kinjareta - Archosaur Posts: 68 Arc User
    edited November 2011
    I'll be quite honest, Seekers are the best tanking class besides a Barb. I squadded with a Seeker a few days ago actually, running an alt fc, his HP was 18k, Which is what most Barbs HP's seem to be at the 100+ level. This seeker was not R9, However he did have good gear :3 and he was an amazing tank, just wish i could have friended him now xD
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  • WizzusChrist - Archosaur
    WizzusChrist - Archosaur Posts: 41 Arc User
    edited November 2011
    I'll be quite honest, Seekers are the best tanking class besides a Barb. I squadded with a Seeker a few days ago actually, running an alt fc, his HP was 18k, Which is what most Barbs HP's seem to be at the 100+ level. This seeker was not R9, However he did have good gear :3 and he was an amazing tank, just wish i could have friended him now xD

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  • GohRaL - Sanctuary
    GohRaL - Sanctuary Posts: 883 Arc User
    edited November 2011
    With crappy gear, barb is the best tank. With decent gear a BM is the best tank. With amazing gear, the first person to attack is the best tank. lol


    Actually Flesh Ream generates so much aggro than even if the barb is weaponless can hold aggro just fine.

    That situation doesnt involves highAPS or 99+ gear highly refined.



    If you compare Barbs and BMs with self buffs and same gear, there's no way that a BM tank better than a Barb.
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  • HexOmega - Dreamweaver
    HexOmega - Dreamweaver Posts: 2,342 Arc User
    edited November 2011
    now if only most people wouldnt be 101+
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  • Sarrafeline - Sanctuary
    Sarrafeline - Sanctuary Posts: 4,661 Arc User
    edited November 2011
    I'll be quite honest, Seekers are the best tanking class besides a Barb. I squadded with a Seeker a few days ago actually, running an alt fc, his HP was 18k, Which is what most Barbs HP's seem to be at the 100+ level. This seeker was not R9, However he did have good gear :3 and he was an amazing tank, just wish i could have friended him now xD

    Huh...

    I know a Sin that can solo FCC. That is, the mobs, bosses, and everything. >_> What's your point?
    101 Sage Sin*/Archer
    100 Demon BM*/Barb
    96 Demon Cleric/Sage Seeker
    95 Demon Wiz/
    94 Sage Veno
    85 Psy/80 Mystic
    And a handful of other alts, all 79 and under.
    *Pre RB level
  • HildieGarde - Heavens Tear
    HildieGarde - Heavens Tear Posts: 120 Arc User
    edited November 2011
    Isn't alpha male a genie skill used to get aggro of everything? Problem solved b:lipcurl
    Alpha Male resets all aggro levels and gives you some extra, but that also means that any buffer aggro level that has been built between the others is reset back down. So in some situations it can cause problems, ex: the wiz/psy has been holding back to build up an aggro buffer and you reset with Alpha Male just before they let loose a nuke. Furthermore due to its high energy cost it isn't a spammable Genie skill.

    It is discussed somewhere on this thread http://pwi-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=1106541

    It works to instantly bring aggro to the Seeker (or any other Tank) as long as the Seeker (or other Tank) can continue to maintain a high level of aggro, say through Vortex.

    Nevertheless, I consider it an essential Seeker Genie skill.

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    As far as Tanking, so far I am loving the Seeker although I must admit you will probably rely mostly on Vortex to hold aggro on bosses. Which is somewhat of a waste of an AOE skill.

    The Seeker can solo/duo Phoenix Valley and level up quite fast using it's AOEs, even pre-lvl 59 (which is when you get Vortex).
  • Michael_Dark - Lost City
    Michael_Dark - Lost City Posts: 9,091 Arc User
    edited November 2011
    b:chuckle Had a barb attempt to tank with no gear.

    Turned into a deathfest. Was quite funny... Apparently, even at level 85, you can't tank BH59 with a PDef of 3,000 buffed. b:laugh

    lol. I did say **** gear, not no gear. b:chuckle

    Actually Flesh Ream generates so much aggro than even if the barb is weaponless can hold aggro just fine.

    That situation doesnt involves highAPS or 99+ gear highly refined.



    If you compare Barbs and BMs with self buffs and same gear, there's no way that a BM tank better than a Barb.

    I guess you missed my point.

    With average gears, a 10k hp bm can tank just about anything in the game short of a few world bosses, harpy and crystal terror. It helps if they have a decently refined GX or GV.

    For instance, a 10k hp BM can replace a barb in delta.

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  • Sarrafeline - Sanctuary
    Sarrafeline - Sanctuary Posts: 4,661 Arc User
    edited November 2011
    I guess you missed my point.

    With average gears, a 10k hp bm can tank just about anything in the game short of a few world bosses, harpy and crystal terror. It helps if they have a decently refined GX or GV.

    For instance, a 10k hp BM can replace a barb in delta.

    b:bye

    To get 10k HP, don't you either need 1) High refines or 2) a vit build (IE, no fists)? For midgame and people who aren't gonna glitch/buy heads/otherwise plevel to 101, that seems to be a bit... Difficult to do...

    b:surrender Though I did just make TT80G boots for my BM tonight.
    101 Sage Sin*/Archer
    100 Demon BM*/Barb
    96 Demon Cleric/Sage Seeker
    95 Demon Wiz/
    94 Sage Veno
    85 Psy/80 Mystic
    And a handful of other alts, all 79 and under.
    *Pre RB level
  • Michael_Dark - Lost City
    Michael_Dark - Lost City Posts: 9,091 Arc User
    edited November 2011
    To get 10k HP, don't you either need 1) High refines or 2) a vit build (IE, no fists)? For midgame and people who aren't gonna glitch/buy heads/otherwise plevel to 101, that seems to be a bit... Difficult to do...

    b:surrender Though I did just make TT80G boots for my BM tonight.

    10k hp BM isn't really that difficult to get when you're 100. At least that's what I consider average gear.

    As for tanking lower level stuff at level, you just need to know how to play the game and have a squad that knows how to play their role.

    At level a BM would only have trouble tanking a few bosses... Crimson, Mantavip... some of the HH bosses.... though I tanked most of the time as I was leveling up with people my level or below usually and that's back when 99 gold was still a rarity.

    BM has always been 'backup tank' anyway. With the speed people level, abundance of high level characters now and availability of good cheap gear (70 green and all the molder gears and cheap shards), it really shouldn't matter much now.
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  • Sarrafeline - Sanctuary
    Sarrafeline - Sanctuary Posts: 4,661 Arc User
    edited November 2011
    10k hp BM isn't really that difficult to get when you're 100. At least that's what I consider average gear.

    As for tanking lower level stuff at level, you just need to know how to play the game and have a squad that knows how to play their role.

    At level a BM would only have trouble tanking a few bosses... Crimson, Mantavip... some of the HH bosses.... though I tanked most of the time as I was leveling up with people my level or below usually and that's back when 99 gold was still a rarity.

    BM has always been 'backup tank' anyway. With the speed people level, abundance of high level characters now and availability of good cheap gear (70 green and all the molder gears and cheap shards), it really shouldn't matter much now.

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    Pole?

    b:surrender

    Meh. Pole isn't friendly. And yeah, there's a lot of people nubbing it up lately. >_> BH69 isn't the instance to start learning your cleric, or try to figure out how to play the seeker you just bought off your friend.

    But sometimes, Pole is just plain mean. b:cry
    101 Sage Sin*/Archer
    100 Demon BM*/Barb
    96 Demon Cleric/Sage Seeker
    95 Demon Wiz/
    94 Sage Veno
    85 Psy/80 Mystic
    And a handful of other alts, all 79 and under.
    *Pre RB level
  • Michael_Dark - Lost City
    Michael_Dark - Lost City Posts: 9,091 Arc User
    edited November 2011
    ...

    Pole?

    b:surrender

    Meh. Pole isn't friendly. And yeah, there's a lot of people nubbing it up lately. >_> BH69 isn't the instance to start learning your cleric, or try to figure out how to play the seeker you just bought off your friend.

    But sometimes, Pole is just plain mean. b:cry

    Yeah, at level they can be really tough for an old-school experienced squad that's relatively well geared. With the way people level now, BH69 is where they kinda start actually learning how to play their class, so I can imagine how bad it might be now. lol
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  • Female_Barb - Sanctuary
    Female_Barb - Sanctuary Posts: 15 Arc User
    edited November 2011
    Hello!

    I ceared a cleric and I like it very much but I would also like to create create a "tank" character and I was wondering which class is the best at tanking. I dont want to create a barb because I want it to be a female. So choosing between bms and earthguards, which one is the best at tanking?`Id also like good aoe skills to lvl easier.

    Please share your experiences b:pleased

    What are you talking about? D: You can be a female, and a barb at the same time >.<