Recasting rank8 & packs

Festerina - Archosaur
Festerina - Archosaur Posts: 23 Arc User
edited November 2011 in General Discussion
Hi,

Comment on this thread as u please..

OK so recasting for rank8 has come out, yes i believe it is a good idea as getting rank9 is expensive beyond comprehension you need at least 700 euros + and that does not include the shards and refining etc.

So they brought recasting, which can only be made with a faction that holds a faction base. Fare enough.

- Basically you need approx 84 mil in game coin to get chest, pants and weapon reforged and recast.
- Not sure what the drop rates are as i have not yet once done it with faction.
- Regarding that factor: i believe that this sort of thing should have been an instance were u can do with a random squad like nirvana that way drops are split between people at the end of every. Cause the way they have made it is sorta hard to do with factions that will keep mats to them selves etc. If this was done like a nirvana then a faction base thing then it would be fare for everyone and it would also be a little bit easier for the person to obtain.
- Recasting is not easily obtained. No matter how big the faction is.
- Recasting rank9 after the amount of rl money ppl spend is a little slap in there faces.
- Rank 9 should be the Endgame gear not upgrade-able.

Too many people have left game both cash shoppers and non cash shoppers. Regarding these situations.

Regarding packs- This should be removed or at least keep just 2 sets, raise the drop rates on them too i don't expect for anyone to buy 4 and them getting a scroll of tome or w.e but don't you find it stupid that people spend hundreds of dollars/ euros and they only get tokens of luck???
or the funniest part i find about packs - how the same people get the good **** when others are left with ****? this as i have seen have left ppl leaving this game both cash shoppers and non and these are good players who have spend alot on here.


Think about making the game better pwi not making the game so unplayable for people so un joyable that they quit

thanks for your time.
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  • Ikarium - Dreamweaver
    Ikarium - Dreamweaver Posts: 631 Arc User
    edited November 2011
    Regarding packs- This should be removed or at least keep just 2 sets, raise the drop rates on them too i don't expect for anyone to buy 4 and them getting a scroll of tome or w.e but don't you find it stupid that people spend hundreds of dollars/ euros and they only get tokens of luck???
    or the funniest part i find about packs - how the same people get the good **** when others are left with ****? this as i have seen have left ppl leaving this game both cash shoppers and non and these are good players who have spend alot on here.
    I don't understand this at all. Do you also write lottery corporations and casinos asking them to up their odds at winning?
    Packs are a Gamble. How do people not understand this after 2 years? You can throw $500 at the game, buy packs and get nothing but tokens..... the same way you can go buy $500 of lotto tickets and win $10 back.
    Any superstition about who wins good things and others bad is just that................superstition. Each pack has roughly 97% for tokens (varies slightly from one kind of pack to another). Everyone knows this.
  • Festerina - Archosaur
    Festerina - Archosaur Posts: 23 Arc User
    edited November 2011
    Would appreciate a respond from a GM
  • Festerina - Archosaur
    Festerina - Archosaur Posts: 23 Arc User
    edited November 2011
    Hi,

    Comment on this thread as u please..

    OK so recasting for rank8 has come out, yes i believe it is a good idea as getting rank9 is expensive beyond comprehension you need at least 700 euros + and that does not include the shards and refining etc.

    So they brought recasting, which can only be made with a faction that holds a faction base. Fare enough.

    - Basically you need approx 84 mil in game coin to get chest, pants and weapon reforged and recast.
    - Not sure what the drop rates are as i have not yet once done it with faction.
    - Regarding that factor: i believe that this sort of thing should have been an instance were u can do with a random squad like nirvana that way drops are split between people at the end of every. Cause the way they have made it is sorta hard to do with factions that will keep mats to them selves etc. If this was done like a nirvana then a faction base thing then it would be fare for everyone and it would also be a little bit easier for the person to obtain.
    - Recasting is not easily obtained. No matter how big the faction is.
    - Recasting rank9 after the amount of rl money ppl spend is a little slap in there faces.
    - Rank 9 should be the Endgame gear not upgrade-able.

    Too many people have left game both cash shoppers and non cash shoppers. Regarding these situations.

    Regarding packs- This should be removed or at least keep just 2 sets, raise the drop rates on them too i don't expect for anyone to buy 4 and them getting a scroll of tome or w.e but don't you find it stupid that people spend hundreds of dollars/ euros and they only get tokens of luck???
    or the funniest part i find about packs - how the same people get the good **** when others are left with ****? this as i have seen have left ppl leaving this game both cash shoppers and non and these are good players who have spend alot on here.


    Think about making the game better pwi not making the game so unplayable for people so un joyable that they quit

    thanks for your time.
    I don't understand this at all. Do you also write lottery corporations and casinos asking them to up their odds at winning?
    Packs are a Gamble. How do people not understand this after 2 years? You can throw $500 at the game, buy packs and get nothing but tokens..... the same way you can go buy $500 of lotto tickets and win $10 back.
    Any superstition about who wins good things and others bad is just that................superstition. Each pack has roughly 97% for tokens (varies slightly from one kind of pack to another). Everyone knows this.

    For the first thing you just stated ill answer you in this way- easily i do not bother with lottery tickets and that statement has nothing to do whats so ever with what i was trying to say. By increasing the percentage is more money for them at the end of the day that is what they want is it not?
  • Festerina - Archosaur
    Festerina - Archosaur Posts: 23 Arc User
    edited November 2011
    besides the actual thread is more focused on rank9 and 8 recast added the last part bec its true.
  • Ikarium - Dreamweaver
    Ikarium - Dreamweaver Posts: 631 Arc User
    edited November 2011
    For the first thing you just stated ill answer you in this way- easily i do not bother with lottery tickets and that statement has nothing to do whats so ever with what i was trying to say. By increasing the percentage is more money for them at the end of the day that is what they want is it not?
    No.
    Do you really want increase the percentage of good tiems from packs and flood the market with these items? I know I sure don't.
    Increasing the percentage would not drive their sales up, either. Why buy 50 when I could buy 20 and get good stuff?, as one example.

    And comparing to the lottery is valid.....because that is what the packs are. What many people, like yourself, don't seem to understand. They are a gamble, the lottery of PWI.
  • Festerina - Archosaur
    Festerina - Archosaur Posts: 23 Arc User
    edited November 2011
    Fine ... Gamble.. know can u get back on topic - rank8 recasting instance...
    Which i think would be Better off for everyone that instead of it being a faction instance it would have been a better of nirvana like instance.. Do not get me wrong i do appreciate the fact that ppl that can not afford rank 9 can know upgrade there rank8 but wouldn't it have been a hella easier if it was a normal instance?
  • Ikarium - Dreamweaver
    Ikarium - Dreamweaver Posts: 631 Arc User
    edited November 2011
    Regarding packs- This should be removed or at least keep just 2 sets, raise the drop rates on them too i don't expect for anyone to buy 4 and them getting a scroll of tome or w.e but don't you find it stupid that people spend hundreds of dollars/ euros and they only get tokens of luck???
    or the funniest part i find about packs - how the same people get the good **** when others are left with ****? this as i have seen have left ppl leaving this game both cash shoppers and non and these are good players who have spend alot on here.
    Comment on this thread as u please..
    Fine ... Gamble.. know can u get back on topic
    I was on a topic, that you started, and invited comment on...
    b:puzzledb:puzzledb:question





    Anyway, the rank8/9 takes a while to farm, and the instance is hard (? - idk I haven't done it), isn't really a bad thing. Bets are out that some of the mats needed will end up in the boutique in some form (either direct or via a new pack) - so the time needed might be moot.
    Having to spend months farming out improved endgame gear doesn't sound bad. Sounds like the PWI of a couple years ago, which is not bad at all. Especially since it looks like it can't be exploited like Nirvana (multiple chars saving 99 leys for 2x, people doing it solo/duo/trio).
    It being a faction instance further expands on that, I suppose. People can't run and farm it 50 times a day solo.
  • SylenThunder - Twilight Temple
    edited November 2011
    I think the entire issue can be drawn down to this...
    ... Cause the way they have made it is sorta hard to do with factions that will keep mats to them selves etc.


    Solution: Join a better faction.
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  • _Nei_ - Sanctuary
    _Nei_ - Sanctuary Posts: 334 Arc User
    edited November 2011
    - Basically you need approx 84 mil in game coin to get chest, pants and weapon reforged and recast.

    You can always set a shop to buy this mats. Gonna be same as buy nirvana materials.

    - Not sure what the drop rates are as i have not yet once done it with faction.

    Bosses from each trial drops like 8 recast materials . Each player can pick a quest that rewards you with 300 reputation and a box with recast materials.


    - Regarding that factor: i believe that this sort of thing should have been an instance were u can do with a random squad like nirvana that way drops are split between people at the end of every. Cause the way they have made it is sorta hard to do with factions that will keep mats to them selves etc. If this was done like a nirvana then a faction base thing then it would be fare for everyone and it would also be a little bit easier for the person to obtain.

    They made it as faction instance. If your faction is selfish greed just join another more fair faction. Some trials are hard to complete and a small squad of 6 ppl can't do it. That's the reason why they allowed 100 players into the instance.

    - Recasting is not easily obtained. No matter how big the faction is.

    It's not right now since factions are learning how to do the trials. Later they can do 27 trial per week. If you count between the mats obtained from bosses and the ones from players that will add many more materials to the market.


    - Recasting rank9 after the amount of rl money ppl spend is a little slap in there faces.

    Still there is players who farmed their r9 w/o real cash. I don't think this gonna be a real issue to recast for those who spent real cash on the original r9. Burn a few more their credic cards and it's done....

    - Rank 9 should be the Endgame gear not upgrade-able.

    Rank9 actually is the end-game gear and it gonna be unless they release a new lv cap and new gear. There is no point about don't let players recast it. You acn keep your original set or work on the new recast.

    Coloured answers ....
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  • FatalFem - Heavens Tear
    FatalFem - Heavens Tear Posts: 291 Arc User
    edited November 2011
    Ok you are comparing virtual game items as if there should be an end? 105 is NOT end game, everyone knows this. Everyone has known this for a very long time. Everyone knows that eventually they will be upping the level cap coming up with new gears etc and probably rank 10. Everyone also knows that at some point there will also be at least the release of 1 more new class. Now with all the things that the majority of people know, why on earth would you consider r9 to be end game? Matter of fact, from what I understand its just a cheaper alternative to warsoul. So technically very few (I think I've seen 1 person on HT or heard about it on the forums of som1 having this gear). Nothing you buy in this game is yours, nor will it ever be yours. They state this on their terms of service page. You can spend 1 million real dollars on this game and if they shut it down tomorrow you are just SOL.

    They have to continually come up with new ways to either keep people from being bored or to keep others crying. Looks like with this new update they succeeded in both.
  • Mekkhala - Lost City
    Mekkhala - Lost City Posts: 303 Arc User
    edited November 2011
    Ok you are comparing virtual game items as if there should be an end? 105 is NOT end game, everyone knows this. Everyone has known this for a very long time. Everyone knows that eventually they will be upping the level cap coming up with new gears etc and probably rank 10. Everyone also knows that at some point there will also be at least the release of 1 more new class. Now with all the things that the majority of people know, why on earth would you consider r9 to be end game? Matter of fact, from what I understand its just a cheaper alternative to warsoul. So technically very few (I think I've seen 1 person on HT or heard about it on the forums of som1 having this gear). Nothing you buy in this game is yours, nor will it ever be yours. They state this on their terms of service page. You can spend 1 million real dollars on this game and if they shut it down tomorrow you are just SOL.

    They have to continually come up with new ways to either keep people from being bored or to keep others crying. Looks like with this new update they succeeded in both.



    Agreed. Im predicting that at some point r9 will be the cost of r8 and r10 will be the cost of r9.
    I hope they come up with a 3rd cast NV. I'm clinging to my gear in desperate hope NV doesn't get totally left in the dust.
  • Susamajii - Lost City
    Susamajii - Lost City Posts: 902 Arc User
    edited November 2011
    Agreed. Im predicting that at some point r9 will be the cost of r8 and r10 will be the cost of r9.
    I hope they come up with a 3rd cast NV. I'm clinging to my gear in desperate hope NV doesn't get totally left in the dust.

    2 years without an upgrade for nirvana (okay ALMOST 2 years). I farmed my nirvana gear and I was not going to ever get r9, and still didn't get the whole set just the weapon and the belt. 2 years is too long of a time to go without a FARMABLE upgraded gear. INB4 herp derp you can farm rank 9. Yes you can farm the coins for rank 9 but in the end -someone- had to cash shop for you to get your rank 9. Unlike Nirvana which is completely farmed in the game without ever dropping a cent on zhen. This is not how a game should be run. 2 years without an upgrade to farmable NON-CS gear is just ludicrous. PWE is not even worth the time of playing anymore wait for the new MMOs to come out they will have a much less biased approach and a vastly less damaging cash shop.

    Cash Shop should be for non-essential items that are more accessories not the only way to obtain the best gear in the game.

    /PWI.
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    And then just touch me.
    Tilll I get my,
    Satisfaction.
  • Yamiino - Heavens Tear
    Yamiino - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,031 Arc User
    edited November 2011
    I dont really find how recasting r8 is better than its pure state appart of the looks, you do know you get random stats, you do know you can spend a lot more to get the stats you want, so why recasting it? lol.
    WTB> -12% channeling BELT or RING pm me with link or mail me ingame HT server, ty.
  • Wadzio - Lost City
    Wadzio - Lost City Posts: 308 Arc User
    edited November 2011
    2 years without an upgrade for nirvana (okay ALMOST 2 years). I farmed my nirvana gear and I was not going to ever get r9, and still didn't get the whole set just the weapon and the belt. 2 years is too long of a time to go without a FARMABLE upgraded gear. INB4 herp derp you can farm rank 9. Yes you can farm the coins for rank 9 but in the end -someone- had to cash shop for you to get your rank 9. Unlike Nirvana which is completely farmed in the game without ever dropping a cent on zhen. This is not how a game should be run. 2 years without an upgrade to farmable NON-CS gear is just ludicrous. PWE is not even worth the time of playing anymore wait for the new MMOs to come out they will have a much less biased approach and a vastly less damaging cash shop.

    Cash Shop should be for non-essential items that are more accessories not the only way to obtain the best gear in the game.

    /PWI.

    I LOL'D.

    1. You didnt farm Your nirvana gears, You CS'd it.
    2. If 2 years is too long, then just CS the rest of Your R9 set.
    3. A lot of things in this game can be farmed. Your statement about how the game should be run and how things should be farmed would make sense if it was P2P game. Perfect World is a F2P game and they have to make some profit. Comparing to other games You actually should be glad that those CS items are tradeable, so there is some balance between farmers and cashshoppers.
    4. Guild trials are pretty much a non-cs game update. You would know if You participated and bothered to even read and understand what is abt. Ah sry, forgot You just dont help other ppl.
    5. Its actually funny that You are the one whinning so much abt CS doing so much damage to the game. Tell me how much did You cs in last 2 years? What would You have now if not cash shop? Im guessing You butthurt much that Your guild is struggling, ppl just dont give a damn abt You and not only You get rolled by Vengeful, but You barely can beat ChinaTown in TW.

    Bye Susa, the PWIC finalist. LOL
    Because size really MATTERS!!!