Petition for unbinding without item destruction

Bashmaster - Raging Tide
Bashmaster - Raging Tide Posts: 353 Arc User
edited November 2011 in General Discussion
Just as the title says vote yes or no people! I think it should be so because it's a waste of our hard earned coin!
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  • RedWiz - Raging Tide
    RedWiz - Raging Tide Posts: 8 Arc User
    edited November 2011
    Didn't realize there was no unbinding without destruction till I binded my Neon Purgatory. Now it just sits in my bank rusting away.
  • DuckTapez - Archosaur
    DuckTapez - Archosaur Posts: 855 Arc User
    edited November 2011
    Just as the title says vote yes or no people! I think it should be so because it's a waste of our hard earned coin!

    ...that kinda destroys the whole idea of binding
    (or maybe they're just trying to make you waste money on guardian scrolls)

    i mean, what's the point of binding then?
    to pk?
    there's no way to pk penalty-free, it's either safety lock, guardian scrolls, or binding...deal with it

    what they SHOULD do is not make any items bind automatically (say TT gold items)
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  • Alasen - Heavens Tear
    Alasen - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,874 Arc User
    edited November 2011
    ya but if they took it off and let us unbind gear... people wouldn't have to spend more to make gear they already made for another toon (o wait there's the stash). ....... Course if u have a toon on another account that sucks.....
  • Bashmaster - Raging Tide
    Bashmaster - Raging Tide Posts: 353 Arc User
    edited November 2011
    shoot should have added a third option to just make it so things dont automatically bind but give you a choice.... comment if u think thats better
  • Alasen - Heavens Tear
    Alasen - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,874 Arc User
    edited November 2011
    u sure u quoted the right person? might wanna read what i said. although i was kinda being sarcastic but if they (PW) let us unbind gear they wouldnt' make as much money...... that make more sense?

    But there's the stash..... so....
  • MageMERC - Harshlands
    MageMERC - Harshlands Posts: 1,600 Arc User
    edited November 2011
    my take is this -

    theres a difference between things that bind automatically and things that you have to bind yourself.

    The problem with the things that bind automatically is that no-one (very few anyway) make and use them because you lose the option of reusing on another toon or selling.

    To me, it just means a portion of the game has been developed and is not used. What a waste. A great example is the Acalantha Wand. Sunflame that someone is trying to sell in the AH in HL. They started at 8mill and last I looked it was down to 6.5mill. Seriously, you going to pay that for a weapon that has a shelf life and you then just destroy it??

    So I think for things that bind automatically you should be able to buy an Unbind token to then allow you to unbind and reuse/resell.

    Now for things that you bind yourself there should be an unbind token, but maybe one that costs a lot more than the other one, because you chose to bind that item in the first place.

    DEVS - theres a way to make money here for the company - develop unbinding tokens - 2 different types for whether or not an item binds automatically or you bind it by choice.
  • Bashmaster - Raging Tide
    Bashmaster - Raging Tide Posts: 353 Arc User
    edited November 2011
    my take is this -

    theres a difference between things that bind automatically and things that you have to bind yourself.

    The problem with the things that bind automatically is that no-one (very few anyway) make and use them because you lose the option of reusing on another toon or selling.

    To me, it just means a portion of the game has been developed and is not used. What a waste. A great example is the Acalantha Wand. Sunflame that someone is trying to sell in the AH in HL. They started at 8mill and last I looked it was down to 6.5mill. Seriously, you going to pay that for a weapon that has a shelf life and you then just destroy it??

    So I think for things that bind automatically you should be able to buy an Unbind token to then allow you to unbind and reuse/resell.

    Now for things that you bind yourself there should be an unbind token, but maybe one that costs a lot more than the other one, because you chose to bind that item in the first place.

    DEVS - theres a way to make money here for the company - develop unbinding tokens - 2 different types for whether or not an item binds automatically or you bind it by choice.
    Thats more towards what i was pointing towards, thanks for saying it. I like his idea better, i jsut couldnt think of it at the time i was making the thread.
  • DuckTapez - Archosaur
    DuckTapez - Archosaur Posts: 855 Arc User
    edited November 2011
    u sure u quoted the right person? might wanna read what i said. although i was kinda being sarcastic but if they (PW) let us unbind gear they wouldnt' make as much money...... that make more sense?

    But there's the stash..... so....

    haha no i didn't quote the right person, my quoting system was messed up b:shocked (quoted 3 people at the same time, had to delete two but deleted the wrong one)
    my sincere apologies
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  • Alasen - Heavens Tear
    Alasen - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,874 Arc User
    edited November 2011
    lol quoting on here's seriously screwed up... and i just noticed if u hit reply it turns the multi button next to reply on or off too. So hit reply twice from now on maybe that's the REASON things are so screwy.
  • Angel_Spawn - Sanctuary
    Angel_Spawn - Sanctuary Posts: 3,034 Arc User
    edited November 2011
    Items which auto-bind after equipping, NO, items you used binding charms on, YES :P
  • Mitachi - Dreamweaver
    Mitachi - Dreamweaver Posts: 1,201 Arc User
    edited November 2011
    shoot should have added a third option to just make it so things dont automatically bind but give you a choice.... comment if u think thats better

    Yeah this is a better option.
  • VenusArmani - Dreamweaver
    VenusArmani - Dreamweaver Posts: 6,009 Arc User
    edited November 2011
    KrittyCat wrote: »
    Unbinding charm/service/item/npc should be available

    At this time there is no plan for Perfect World International to offer an unbinding service as it runs contrary to express purposes of selling binding charms. Please remember that binding the items serves more than the purpose of preventing your gear from being dropped in PK, it also prevents other from selling your item/keeping your item if your account is compromised. Selling unbinding services would remove this protection. Please take the decision to bind items seriously and make sure you are comfortable NOT selling the item before binding your gear. If you want to protect yourself from dropping in PK, there are other options available to you including Guardian scrolls and safety lock. The last option is particularly attractive because you can set it for 30 minute intervals so that you don't have to wait that long if you should decide you want to do something other than PK and go blue name instead.And unlike guardian charms it is not consumable. Guardian charms are also attractive in that the protect your exp as well.

    I agree that perhaps the gold tt items shouldn't autobind though. I'd rather they just stopped them from autobinding then offer an unbinding service.
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  • Arlenia - Dreamweaver
    Arlenia - Dreamweaver Posts: 55 Arc User
    edited November 2011
    The problem with making gold TT armor not auto bind is that there's a reason for the binding thing. For every level of gear there's green (non-bound) and gold (bound) items. The gold ones are always of noticeably higher quality with better adds/grade/refines. You make a decision when you get the gold gear to "waste" money on gear you'll not be able to resell once you're done with it but will make you stronger now, vs saving money but being weaker until you hit the higher tier. Same with binding non-bound gear yourself. You trade the resale value for the convenience of not having to use safety lock in PK.

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  • Michael_Dark - Lost City
    Michael_Dark - Lost City Posts: 9,091 Arc User
    edited November 2011
    The problem with making gold TT armor not auto bind is that there's a reason for the binding thing. For every level of gear there's green (non-bound) and gold (bound) items. The gold ones are always of noticeably higher quality with better adds/grade/refines. You make a decision when you get the gold gear to "waste" money on gear you'll not be able to resell once you're done with it but will make you stronger now, vs saving money but being weaker until you hit the higher tier. Same with binding non-bound gear yourself. You trade the resale value for the convenience of not having to use safety lock in PK.

    You can't have your cake and eat it too, sorry.

    A voice of reason and understanding. I agree.

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  • Annalyse - Heavens Tear
    Annalyse - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,618 Arc User
    edited November 2011
    The problem with making gold TT armor not auto bind is that there's a reason for the binding thing. For every level of gear there's green (non-bound) and gold (bound) items. The gold ones are always of noticeably higher quality with better adds/grade/refines. You make a decision when you get the gold gear to "waste" money on gear you'll not be able to resell once you're done with it but will make you stronger now, vs saving money but being weaker until you hit the higher tier. Same with binding non-bound gear yourself. You trade the resale value for the convenience of not having to use safety lock in PK.

    There is no green TT99 armor. So really, we are not given a choice there, and I agree with the others that it should not autobind.

    For the same reason I made the gold TT80 bow for my archer. I prefer bows, and there were no other bows available. When we are not given a choice, things should not bind automatically.
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  • Aizza - Harshlands
    Aizza - Harshlands Posts: 719 Arc User
    edited November 2011
    It would be nice ..
  • Alasen - Heavens Tear
    Alasen - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,874 Arc User
    edited November 2011
    The problem with making gold TT armor not auto bind is that there's a reason for the binding thing. For every level of gear there's green (non-bound) and gold (bound) items. The gold ones are always of noticeably higher quality with better adds/grade/refines. You make a decision when you get the gold gear to "waste" money on gear you'll not be able to resell once you're done with it but will make you stronger now, vs saving money but being weaker until you hit the higher tier. Same with binding non-bound gear yourself. You trade the resale value for the convenience of not having to use safety lock in PK.

    You can't have your cake and eat it too, sorry.

    Well you're wrong there..... go take a look at the gear at the forges, and use the Gear button in the Encyclopedia in-game to look them up and see the "Upgrades" u get when +'ing them. Green gear and Gold gear have the SAME attack / defenses and they get the SAME amount of upgrade as well..... the only difference is the stats.
  • Bashmaster - Raging Tide
    Bashmaster - Raging Tide Posts: 353 Arc User
    edited November 2011
    Well you're wrong there..... go take a look at the gear at the forges, and use the Gear button in the Encyclopedia in-game to look them up and see the "Upgrades" u get when +'ing them. Green gear and Gold gear have the SAME attack / defenses and they get the SAME amount of upgrade as well..... the only difference is the stats.

    That and they get set bonuses unlike green.
    And to make another point, take it like this, say you were quitting and didn't want to destroy your stuff, just give it to a friend, it would be useful in that perspective. So i prefer the choice instead of automatic, or as MageMERC said, items in boutique that can do it.
  • Alasen - Heavens Tear
    Alasen - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,874 Arc User
    edited November 2011
    well ya there is the set bonuses with gold...... 90 or 99, but that kinda goes with onyl the stats are differnt lol

    And yes i would love to unbind gear and sell it. If I was selling it..... my sin's 80 gold's going to my archer if i ever lvl it, and my veno's.... using it on psy eventually lol

    Edit: well there is the 80 gold i made for seeker.. my only HA......... b:sad
  • Bashmaster - Raging Tide
    Bashmaster - Raging Tide Posts: 353 Arc User
    edited November 2011
    I like this Alasen person... ijs
  • Alasen - Heavens Tear
    Alasen - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,874 Arc User
    edited November 2011
    b:pleased