A more viable TW BM

T_i_m - Dreamweaver
T_i_m - Dreamweaver Posts: 200 Arc User
edited October 2011 in Blademaster
http://pwcalc.com/5220ed83d2230757

Discuss. Self-buffed btw. Accuracy problems? Target arcane classes...
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  • MuCephei - Heavens Tear
    MuCephei - Heavens Tear Posts: 7 Arc User
    edited October 2011
    archers, bms, barbs, sins would kill you in 1,2 hits (r9 ones that is)

    bad build if you ask me
  • Zanryu - Dreamweaver
    Zanryu - Dreamweaver Posts: 7,261 Arc User
    edited October 2011
    Dude you don't know proness when you see it, that build is pure epicsauce, I'm gonna use it
  • Joshcja - Sanctuary
    Joshcja - Sanctuary Posts: 3,502 Arc User
    edited October 2011
    Zanryu - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    Dude you don't know proness when you see it, that build is pure epicsauce, I'm gonna use it

    that build actually works with sky covers +12 rank 9 recast on the belt (300 phys def more) and a g 16 cube necklace
    Gifs are hard to make work here
  • Sakubatou - Sanctuary
    Sakubatou - Sanctuary Posts: 4,001 Arc User
    edited October 2011
    When not magic marrowed you are still reasonably squishy to casters, considering 500+ mag clerics still have issues with them.

    Other than that, this is a more balanced build. http://pwcalc.com/5c01b9aab959420a

    2 x G15 pdef rings and switched the helm to the base helm for about 1200 more hp.
    Seven 100+ characters leveled the hard way. Free to play. Mystic, Psychic, and Wizard left to level. b:victory
  • snufalufaguss
    snufalufaguss Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited October 2011
    Is this a good one?

    http://pwcalc.com/5e76b89fc00094ca
  • Okeano - Harshlands
    Okeano - Harshlands Posts: 4,943 Arc User
    edited October 2011
    snufalufaguss wrote: »
    Is this a good one?

    http://pwcalc.com/5e76b89fc00094ca

    No, for 2% more magic damage reduction it's totally worth going AA for half the HP and 1/5 the phy def.
  • tberdich0
    tberdich0 Posts: 8 Arc User
    edited October 2011
    T_i_m - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    http://pwcalc.com/5220ed83d2230757

    Discuss. Self-buffed btw. Accuracy problems? Target arcane classes...

    You are just missing a wand or pataka and there you go! b:laugh
  • snufalufaguss
    snufalufaguss Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited October 2011
    Okeano - Harshlands wrote: »
    No, for 2% more magic damage reduction it's totally worth going AA for half the HP and 1/5 the phy def.

    You forgot to mention 13 more defense levels. What bm in their right mind would want more defense levels though?
  • OontzOontz - Dreamweaver
    OontzOontz - Dreamweaver Posts: 782 Arc User
    edited October 2011
    You should just get earth/metal resistance on ring engraving.
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
  • T_i_m - Dreamweaver
    T_i_m - Dreamweaver Posts: 200 Arc User
    edited October 2011
    http://pwcalc.com/34fd707c719d9b7a

    Build updated. Consider that the highest damage archers will still 2-3 shot a standard build anyways. This bm can bell spam like any other, will survive ranged attacks better than other bm's, and can stun/hf faster.
  • Pytharia - Lost City
    Pytharia - Lost City Posts: 757 Arc User
    edited October 2011
    Why did you replace the R9 axes? They're much better than that and you only lose maybe 300 hp.
  • T_i_m - Dreamweaver
    T_i_m - Dreamweaver Posts: 200 Arc User
    edited October 2011
    Increased survivability. BM's are a pure support class now. I tweaked magic to min though to improve dex and ensure hf hits. Vit would be preferred but without accuracy rings it needed that change. Perhaps str can be reduced some too.

    Edit: ideally this build would use a recast r8 axe with adv purge.
  • snufalufaguss
    snufalufaguss Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited October 2011
    T_i_m - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    http://pwcalc.com/34fd707c719d9b7a

    Build updated. Consider that the highest damage archers will still 2-3 shot a standard build anyways. This bm can bell spam like any other, will survive ranged attacks better than other bm's, and can stun/hf faster.

    I would still go with these builds:

    For TW

    http://pwcalc.com/14dc6bbc7cad43c5

    For PvE

    http://pwcalc.com/3b6b399fdc6175e4 (OHT simulates the upcoming Rank 8 recast)



    It shouldn't take long to farm those gears.
  • Pytharia - Lost City
    Pytharia - Lost City Posts: 757 Arc User
    edited October 2011
    Come on, +12 on everything is something but a warsoul weapon? :l

    But I am interested to see what the new recasting will bring to the table, I've avoided reading the rumours confirmed or not.
  • T_i_m - Dreamweaver
    T_i_m - Dreamweaver Posts: 200 Arc User
    edited October 2011
    G12 lunar cape is better for pve since it has more stat points (more str). For TW though, my build in theory does its job faster. Your theoretical build is close enough to my actual build and... it works ok. Not as well as other R9 classes at their roles though.
  • Okeano - Harshlands
    Okeano - Harshlands Posts: 4,943 Arc User
    edited October 2011
    T_i_m - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    http://pwcalc.com/34fd707c719d9b7a

    Build updated. Consider that the highest damage archers will still 2-3 shot a standard build anyways. This bm can bell spam like any other, will survive ranged attacks better than other bm's, and can stun/hf faster.

    K I thought this was a joke thread but apparently you are just f**king stupid. I guess all that time in FC glitch didn't teach you the basics of your class.

    Have you even PvP'ed on that BM of yours? "higest damage archers" beat my BM atm most of the time with their +12 bow, since my R9 set is only +8 and G8 shards. The ones that knows how to kite and has an anti stun genie is really pain in the ***. But even now it's not 2-3 hits by any means, unless you are just completely **** and run in with phy marrow on. When I get jades and 10-12 armor, Archers will have to spark to kill.
    b:bye
  • LegendofLove - Lost City
    LegendofLove - Lost City Posts: 65 Arc User
    edited October 2011
    Bored so i made this, correct me if im wrong but i c some Arcane robe n Helm, whay get them +12? refine is for hp only n most arcane have phy def stats, n heres the old style of LA/HA BM wuahaha
    p.s i like sage bm in tw better than demonb:pleased
    http://pwcalc.com/f4e759ba3067525c
  • X_Rays - Sanctuary
    X_Rays - Sanctuary Posts: 198 Arc User
    edited October 2011
    Why arcane armor? Magic defense suffers diminishing returns, but HP does not. When you already have about 10K+ magic defense without marrow, I would rather have 1000 additional hp than 1000 additional magic defense. Heavy armor > Arcane armor in terms of greater hp. Also that physical necklace should be switched to magic one.
  • snufalufaguss
    snufalufaguss Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited October 2011
    LegendofLove - Lost City wrote: »
    Bored so i made this, correct me if im wrong but i c some Arcane robe n Helm, whay get them +12? refine is for hp only n most arcane have phy def stats, n heres the old style of LA/HA BM wuahaha
    p.s i like sage bm in tw better than demonb:pleased
    http://pwcalc.com/f4e759ba3067525c

    Is the mdef on one of those cloud stir greater than the 5 def levels on rank 9 ring?
  • stealthxbomber
    stealthxbomber Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited October 2011
    http://pwcalc.com/4ac48a29e472366b

    have fun keeping up. b:bye
  • T_i_m - Dreamweaver
    T_i_m - Dreamweaver Posts: 200 Arc User
    edited October 2011
    Okeano - Harshlands wrote: »
    K I thought this was a joke thread but apparently you are just f**king stupid. I guess all that time in FC glitch didn't teach you the basics of your class.

    Have you even PvP'ed on that BM of yours? "higest damage archers" beat my BM atm most of the time with their +12 bow, since my R9 set is only +8 and G8 shards. The ones that knows how to kite and has an anti stun genie is really pain in the ***. But even now it's not 2-3 hits by any means, unless you are just completely **** and run in with phy marrow on. When I get jades and 10-12 armor, Archers will have to spark to kill.
    b:bye

    Have you pvp'd vs a full dot archer? Excuse me for not having AD or antistun/IG on hotkeys. I try to make my pvp experience closer to TW and assume those things are on cd which during TW they usually are. This thread was about a TW bm not a pve or pvp bm and it seems several commenters failed to realize that. Read, comprehend, respond. Stop skipping the 2nd step.
  • prof
    prof Posts: 1,111
    edited October 2011
    op is either obvious troll or high b: question

    you gain 2% mdef reduction,
    you lose over 10k hp,
    you lose 34% pdef reduction,
    you lose attack and defense levels,
    you're now a 1 shot to every class, not just mages
  • Joshcja - Sanctuary
    Joshcja - Sanctuary Posts: 3,502 Arc User
    edited October 2011
    *amused*
    Gifs are hard to make work here
  • Okeano - Harshlands
    Okeano - Harshlands Posts: 4,943 Arc User
    edited October 2011
    T_i_m - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    Have you pvp'd vs a full dot archer? Excuse me for not having AD or antistun/IG on hotkeys. I try to make my pvp experience closer to TW and assume those things are on cd which during TW they usually are. This thread was about a TW bm not a pve or pvp bm and it seems several commenters failed to realize that. Read, comprehend, respond. Stop skipping the 2nd step.

    No, because no R9 Archer on HL has been stupid enough to shard DoT.

    Uhh ok, enjoy getting one shotted by R9 Barb, BM, Archer, Wiz's BT in TW? Have you COMPARED the 2nd calc some random person put up wit yours? You have 2% more magic damage reduction 2%!, with half the HP and p def of my alt R8 cleric with no refine.
  • T_i_m - Dreamweaver
    T_i_m - Dreamweaver Posts: 200 Arc User
    edited October 2011
    Every other build posted has had buffs applied from other classes. I've posted self-buffed only. In fact I even stated that earlier, which demonstrates your poor attention to detail. As for 1shots by other classes... A full dot r9 sin with chill might do it though poetic never managed to do it to me even before I picked up r9 on my bm. Otherwise, lol?

    It might have been a complaint about how bm's are shafted to begin with but the only relevant counter was about the lack of movement speed. Phys classes just aren't going to be more of a problem. They can't muster nearly as much damage as casters except the aforementioned archer.

    Argue dots vs jades somewhere else. It's my experience that dd's perform their roles in TW better when their shards reflect their roles and likewise for tanks or support classes.

    Edit: you have a 29k hp cleric with r8 gear unbuffed? Is that even possible?
  • prof
    prof Posts: 1,111
    edited October 2011
    could you confirm whether or not you're serious? i can't believe anyone can be this utterly stupid lol
  • Okeano - Harshlands
    Okeano - Harshlands Posts: 4,943 Arc User
    edited October 2011
    Lol this thread isn't even worth replying to anymore, enjoy being the joke of the server b:bye.
  • X_Rays - Sanctuary
    X_Rays - Sanctuary Posts: 198 Arc User
    edited October 2011
    Tim, if you worry about mdef, just use magic rings +12. You'll lose some accuracy, but that's better than losing half of your hp. Good luck.
  • _Perses_ - Lost City
    _Perses_ - Lost City Posts: 1,917 Arc User
    edited October 2011
    I can't tell.....is this guy being serious or not?


    Cause if he is being serious I just lost all hope for the BM's on his server b:sad
    Nothing worthwhile to mention here, enjoy the animated signature~

    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
  • Dindin - Lost City
    Dindin - Lost City Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited October 2011
    http://pwcalc.com/767b7bad253e8b13

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