Best solo class
Joey_Cleric - Dreamweaver
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Before I get to the main question, please allow me to explain. My cleric is and always will be my main. However, when * happens and I don't feel like talking, I just wanna play without having to use even the minimal effort for common courtesy.
I'm looking for a class that can solo. Not worried about making money. Not going to buy heads. Just looking for something that I can do all by myself when other people aren't welcome in my thoughts.
I've read other posts, and they basically all say veno. Why aren't mystics listed? But I don't have the money for a herc. for the veno(donations welcome lol). I can do a little on my cleric if I use my genie, but I've killed her twice in the past week.
Even a basic layout of the classes from your experience is welcome. Looking for a new alt. while my cleric is on break lol.
Thank you for any help you give.
I'm looking for a class that can solo. Not worried about making money. Not going to buy heads. Just looking for something that I can do all by myself when other people aren't welcome in my thoughts.
I've read other posts, and they basically all say veno. Why aren't mystics listed? But I don't have the money for a herc. for the veno(donations welcome lol). I can do a little on my cleric if I use my genie, but I've killed her twice in the past week.
Even a basic layout of the classes from your experience is welcome. Looking for a new alt. while my cleric is on break lol.
Thank you for any help you give.
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Its true, a venomancer WITH a herc is the best solo class, however, without, they're still a tough customer, As long as you get a good pet, you will be able to solo quite a bit.
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I like my Bm.
I'm not a APS machine either (2.22) and I usually end up going to hunt on my own to relax and be in my "bubble", like you seem to explain.
We have awesome physical defense (that clerics can't even reach buffed) and can push it even higher with our own buffs. Talking about over 20 000 here easy at lvl 100.
We are weak against magic (which you might have trouble adapting at first as poison hurt US, not you clerics, lol). But they are ways to compensate. get a good genie with healing A STR genie with second wind (Mine has 70 str and heals me a instant 1900 or so) or Tree of Protection if you don't care risking charm ticks using it.
Also get True Emptyness, a Bm/barb exclusive genie skill. Maxed, makes you almost invulnerable to magic for 10 secs, enough to close in, do damage and prepare to stun or cancel the next cast or a magic mob. You can also get earthquake that maxed has 100% to cancel a enemies channeling if times right.Proud supporter of the new expansion. Sure it has it's share of bugs, like any games. But for a pure farmer/grinder, that's a whole lot of new mobs to go beat up b:chuckle0 -
What build do I do for veno, then? And aren't mystics just venos with set pets?0
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My dad has a BM lvl 70, and he can do quite a bit, but we're two different sides of the spectrum. Always having to call on the other for help. Lol If it's not considered rude... Can I ask what build you did? My cleric is full mag. 1 str 9 mag every lvl. Except for that one time being a dumb*** I accidentally put 9 points into dex. Gonna fix that, just need to get the money first.0
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Mystics are a little bit more squad oriented than Veno's, as they have heals and support buffs.
Veno's have far stronger pets though, and depend more on them.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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You might wanna consider sins, they got good soloing capabilities. However they are expensive to equip and need 80+ imo to shine. Heavily equipment dependable, even decent gear cost quite abit to get.0
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#1 bm: numerous fast stuns, self heal, sutra/def buffs, all around very easy to survive
#2 sin: bloodpaint, can take 0 damage, immune to being 1 shotted
#3 veno: 1 shot with a pet that's as strong as a level 80 bm0 -
Veno: THE solo class. Rarely needs a pot thanks to low mana cost skills, nature's grace, soul transfusion and metabolic boost, can grind for hours only going to town to empty inventory (or when the fecal matter hits the rotary impeller and you die)... and doesn't need epic gears.
Mystic: Mana pot sink. Can only really compare to a veno if done the lazy veno way (send pet, only heal pet.) Mystic summons can't hold aggro as well as veno pets, and are squishier (except maybe for Cragglord, which only lasts 20 seconds.)
BM: Awesome AOE grinder. More AOEs than any other class, sell heal, pdef out the rear end. The only class that may have higher PDef fully buffed is a heavy armor veno in foxform, which won't have as high HP.
Sin: Squishy, only shines at high level with epic gears. Once you ARE high level with epic gears though, you can solo things even herc venos can't, and kill them much quicker.
Venomancers are very flexible on builds. You can go pure magic (1 str 9 mag/2 levels) for max heal/attack, sacrifice some mag for vit for better survivability, go light armor (1 str 1 dex 3 mag/level) for more crits/better pdef, or heavy/arcane for greatest flexibility in defense (no set build, as you need to scavenge as many +stat/-req items as possible to make up the stat deficit, as for own level gear you need 5 str 1 dex 6 mag/2 levels - 6 stat points per level.)[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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Veno's are an alright solo class. But in solo they are boring, and when fighting bosses with a lot of HP it will be very very slow. If you go with an arcane build, you'll want your pet to tank everything which gets old.
All classes can solo, but it also depends on what you'd like to solo. And sometimes solo doesn't mean it has to be the easiest or the fastest way. Fun factor is also important. Besides that, gear play's an important role in what you can solo.
My mystic can do more and solo things faster compared to my veno, and my veno is a HA nirvana geared Veno, and used to be my main for 2 years.
Also those who are saying that mystic pets are much weaker then veno pets are incredibly wrong. The pets can't tank but they have very useful skills and one of the pets is a much better DD pet then the herc (storm mistress).
One of the reasons my mystic can solo things so well is because of its healing abilities and debuff plants. And while i can tank, DD and debuff my target, i have a pet that can also aid me.
Sins are fun, and can solo things very fast. They have a self heal per hit, but they are also very squishy even with nirvana gear which limits their solo ability. BM is the same story. For it to become an effective solo class you'll need to invest a lot on getting APS, same with sin.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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I play a barb veno bm and cleric. in my opinion, cleric is the best solo magic class because they can heal themselves, and veno is the best solo all around. sins arent good soloers until high levels and ultimate gear, in which case they beat venos and clerics at soloing. i dont really find any of the melee classes easy to solo with, but maybe that is just me.the loser fail nab cleric from dreamweaver who quit pwi, but still wanders the forums.0
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Retsuko - Heavens Tear wrote: »...
All classes can solo, but it also depends on what you'd like to solo. And sometimes solo doesn't mean it has to be the easiest or the fastest way. Fun factor is also important. Besides that, gear play's an important role in what you can solo.
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Sins are fun, and can solo things very fast. They have a self heal per hit, but they are also very squishy even with nirvana gear which limits their solo ability. BM is the same story. For it to become an effective solo class you'll need to invest a lot on getting APS, same with sin.
When I read that characters with Light Armor are squishy, I think about my pure Arcane Wizard, which can tank even bosses with physical damage (bh69 Gaurnob and other one there are too hard because of small life - 3.8k - of my Wizard though) and not know what to say about him ... he is not squishy, I think.
And I know, that low level Assassin can kill mobs during 3 hits (if they are without crit).[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
BM's become epic Solo class by around 70 assuming you have have decent gear and axe skills on them. Great AoE grinder by then as they have the skills, and the right mobs are around. Sins on the other hand are squishy as ****. Just put BP on a BM and they're have an easier time AoEing a dozen mobs than a Sin will have killing one or two of said Phys mob.
Also, the biggest reason, Herc aside, that a Veno is good at solo-ing, is their HP/MP Regen skills. Their pet is fairly self sufficient and they generally just pile up pots for free coins.0 -
BM & Sin aren't enjoyable playing until 80+ with decent gear.
you will ended up avoiding Magic mobs.
Veno rocks since level 1 with NPC gear.
Physical mob? Magic mob? Archer mob? Veno ate them all.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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Veno is the way to go, do arcane for pet heals and dd - you can put some vit early to help with survivability and restat later or just leave it. Veno can heal themselves and recover mana, they have low mana cost anyways so it won't be a problem. Once you hit 75 you will never ever med and need only a few magic food ever (even though before you rarely med anyways).
For some of the tougher fights you can always duo with another veno or a mystic, with two heals on a veno tank pet you can kill pretty much everything (eventually).
Every class can get boring because this game is about grinding, veno offers some good AOE fun and you can always take fox form and melee a bit too.0 -
I looked that you said why hasn't anyone mentioned mystics.
Mystic pet is horribly unsturdy.
Devil is the only long term tank pet and its fairly squishy no matter what you do.
Storm is not meant to tank since its squishier than Devil.
Salvation isn't meant to deal damage at all.
Cragglord isn't meant to do anything long term.
Veno pets actually gain stats when they level, while as mystic pets gain damage as you level them in skills.
This ends up a veno having 104 times to gain stats for a pet while a mystic summon can only gain 11 times.
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venos are females only. and they dont look cool. I'd choose BM.0
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I have to agree with a Veno. They are the best solo class hands down and if you play your class well, can be invaluable in a squad.
They might not kill as fast as some other classes, especially at high levels but when your friends die, you can stand on their dead body and finish of the mobs with your pet:)
Read up on different pets and get a good tank, I like the volcanic magmite because it comes with bash and thats the best skill for your pet to keep aggro.
Yes, veno are only female but so what. Spend some time making a nice looking toon and learn how to flirt, it will get you far. 0_o0 -
Maybe it is just me, but without bp, aoe grinding/solo work is pot intensive if no hp and mp charms are used.
http://www.pwdatabase.com/pwi/items/29468 + mp and hp pots that i pick up during farming suffice. Diamond sutra heals well, but 1~3 chains of stun,hf, highland cleave, fissure, drake sweep at lvl 10~11, will drain the mp pool of 2k.
What bp allows is to kill the same number of mobs with demon spark (for me), i use stun to keep mobs running away, and killing 7~13 mobs gets you back to full spark by the time spark ends. Bosses can be soloed with bp.
Just be careful with earthquake, i find it buggy against mobs. It pushes them back, which is fine. But at some monsters it causes the screen to freeze, which can lead to death. Doesn't happen with bosses as they seem to resist push back skills. Most bosses/mobs cycles the magic attack on a 8~10 second basis.
I still prefer my bm, but that is the only class i have played with. Hope that helps somewhat.0 -
i have a L92 cleric who has soloed all the bosses up to gargantakong king(he is a mutha, im not even close on him yet, but i dont know his trick) and i havent tried pole and nob yet, but i think i can get them..i hear the nob fight is like the gen feng fight. ill start working the TT's too although my cleric was only toon in squad who could tank those 2-1 bosses like 2nd boss where there are a bunch.."?" level fire casters.
i chose cleric simply for the biggest self heals in the game. the purify is one helluva bonus though and is the secret to many successful boss fights.
i farm for more better gear. from all the farming, i have several alts jammed with stacks of mana pots. i save these for boss killing. pots go into a rotation and i watch the cooldown during the fight. I never run out of mana,(unless i nab on the slitt fight, then pots wont cut it..but purify in the rotation and frickin do it right lol, and even slitt can be done on just mana pots) and rarely pop an orb
as a rule, i know really quickly if i can outheal the damage. you can save your tail once or twice with tricks, but those are for escape. the tricks wont get you through an epic 10-15min knockdown dragout. you have to outheal the damage.
i also only run on my own buffs. schoolteacher +8 defense buffs were a huge help before o malley, but omalley definitely makes a nice improvement over the teacher def buffs
edit: i went sage for the bigger badder IH.and general defense oriented stuff. i wish i could have the demon purify though heh0 -
Joey_Cleric - Dreamweaver wrote: »Before I get to the main question, please allow me to explain. My cleric is and always will be my main. However, when * happens and I don't feel like talking, I just wanna play without having to use even the minimal effort for common courtesy.
I'm looking for a class that can solo. Not worried about making money. Not going to buy heads. Just looking for something that I can do all by myself when other people aren't welcome in my thoughts.
I've read other posts, and they basically all say veno. Why aren't mystics listed? But I don't have the money for a herc. for the veno(donations welcome lol). I can do a little on my cleric if I use my genie, but I've killed her twice in the past week.
Even a basic layout of the classes from your experience is welcome. Looking for a new alt. while my cleric is on break lol.
Thank you for any help you give.0 -
Michalko - Heavens Tear wrote: »BM & Sin aren't enjoyable playing until 80+ with decent gear.
you will ended up avoiding Magic mobs.
Veno rocks since level 1 with NPC gear.
Physical mob? Magic mob? Archer mob? Veno ate them all.
I really struggled with Archer mobs on my Veno. But then, I didn't buy a Herc. I still don't have one at 80... I ahve a Nix though.101 Sage Sin*/Archer
100 Demon BM*/Barb
96 Demon Cleric/Sage Seeker
95 Demon Wiz/
94 Sage Veno
85 Psy/80 Mystic
And a handful of other alts, all 79 and under.
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Sir_Puma - Raging Tide wrote: »You can also get earthquake that maxed has 100% to cancel a enemies channeling if times right.
Does this work against bosses and in pvp?AKA PermaSpark, Heartshatter0 -
I personally love soloing things with my barb, Im 4 aps with regicides and vit stones in most of my gear, i love it. The fact that i can still change into tiger by simply switching to axes i still get all my skills.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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IMO a bm is the best solo class, they can take a hit much better than a sin, put a mana charm on them and endless aoes >:D, go axe/fist build and you can solo just about any boss, plus i speak from experience, i have played every single class and bm is by far the best soloer i have used.
Edit: Also with alter marrow magical leveled, you can take hits form mag. mobs too0 -
Here is my 2 cents, mystics their pets are more meant for support DD, they arent really capable of tanking, unless u spam heal your pet.
Mystics with a phy def gear set can reach 9k phy def +nature barrier+salvation can really tank bosses.
so imo mystics are awesome, a mystic can tank a boss, self heal , falling petals, vital herb while debuffing the boss with creeper or spidervine.
top on that they have rezbuff making them less time consuming .
Venos can turn in foxform, amp , purge, which make them excellent at soloing and adapting.
Bm's are a good soloclass too, but mind u the expenses on repairs. with Bloodpaint (buffed by sin ofc)on they can heal themselves without even using sutra or using a charm.
sins are cool , awesome fast killers, making it the fastest killing dder 1v1, unfortunately they suck at aoe, top on that sins can stealth, bypassing lots of mobs in a instance. in case of danger they can force stealth and they have deaden nerves.
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A lot of good and valid points here concerning the BM/Assassin Aspect of the question, They're all right Sins are good at 80+ with awesome gear, and almost always need R8 Gear to get the required aps, which is quite sad actually, almost the same with a BM but axe builds are better when it comes to AoE Grinding (IMO), As for Venos and Mystics I Cannot say anything as niether of mine got past lvl 40 b:surrender But my Assassin is 101 and I have a few BM friends who all say they miss their Axe builds as it was easier to AoE grind, now they keep pestering me for BP so they can APS Grind b:chuckleb:pleased. Recently I've started a psychic and using Black Voodoo with a Jones I'm blasting things with just two hits b:shocked So it would seem that class has a lot of solo mob potential but I wouldn't want to try and take on bosses with it, so Depending on what you wanted to go and do with your alt you could give psychics a try, gear doesn't need to be epic either, I'm just using a mix of 3*'s and NPC gear and still doing rather well, as far as they go towards end game gear a psychic with good refined gear is only 2nd to the Assassin (PvP Wise, Again, IMO) My reason behind that is because A psy once slapped me for 9k unsparked and non crit, might of had cleric buffs but I can't say for sure b:sad (I got thrown out of SP before I could see).
But yeah thats my view on Classes for solo, hope you find enjoyment in your new alt, which ever class it might be.
P.S. Come try Lost City if you want to try PvP :P Beware of the trolls and Epeen wh*res though[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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