Should all items be released onto the game?

Deaths$in - Sanctuary
Deaths$in - Sanctuary Posts: 16 Arc User
edited October 2011 in General Discussion
For example do you want to have the Stone of the Brute??

One thing for sure that I know people want is the EG R9 armor.

What are some items you think should be introduced to the game or shouldn't be introduced?

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  • truekossy
    truekossy Posts: 7,021 Arc User
    edited October 2011
    First to get a GM cape once it's released to the public wins the game.
  • StrongSeeker - Sanctuary
    StrongSeeker - Sanctuary Posts: 21 Arc User
    edited October 2011
    truekossy wrote: »
    First to get a GM cape once it's released to the public wins the game.

    I'm pretty sure he's talking about items that are obtainable by players... Don't be dumb b:laugh
  • Neodaystar - Sanctuary
    Neodaystar - Sanctuary Posts: 1,020 Arc User
    edited October 2011
    I want that bird mount that looks like a Choocobo from those new packs :3
  • Deaths$in - Sanctuary
    Deaths$in - Sanctuary Posts: 16 Arc User
    edited October 2011
    Neodaystar - Sanctuary wrote: »
    I want that bird mount that looks like a Choocobo from those new packs :3

    I agree it'd be pretty awesome lol
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  • krittycat
    krittycat Posts: 4,187 Community Moderator
    edited October 2011
    There are many items on the database which are a horrible idea to add. Stone of the Brute is one of them... can you imagine a Rank 9 Barb fully geared out with Stone of the Brutes and +12ed? His HP would be literally through the roof, and his Arma would knock down walls in Archosaur (a little bit of an exaggeration, but still...). Some of the stuff in the database needs to stay right where it is - on an internet page.
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  • Deteriorate - Harshlands
    Deteriorate - Harshlands Posts: 309 Arc User
    edited October 2011
    KrittyCat wrote: »
    There are many items on the database which are a horrible idea to add. Stone of the Brute is one of them... can you imagine a Rank 9 Barb fully geared out with Stone of the Brutes and +12ed? His HP would be literally through the roof, and his Arma would knock down walls in Archosaur (a little bit of an exaggeration, but still...). Some of the stuff in the database needs to stay right where it is - on an internet page.

    But with 20 vit stones giving such a huge increase to HP, to the point where its the only viable endgame shard choice....

    Well, theres virtually nothing to make APS or R9 damage output any more overpowered, so why NOT let everyone boost their defence to compensate for the horrible balence rift?
  • XxRagzxx - Sanctuary
    XxRagzxx - Sanctuary Posts: 258 Arc User
    edited October 2011
    They need to release this sexy cape =D
    http://www.pwdatabase.com/pwi/items/21422
    Archer Build:
    pwcalc.com/d38eec6e1f27c7a6
    Sin Build:
    pwcalc.com/d74f267d3be72784
  • Mammorai - Sanctuary
    Mammorai - Sanctuary Posts: 35 Arc User
    edited October 2011
    XxRagzxx - Sanctuary wrote: »
    They need to release this sexy cape =D
    http://www.pwdatabase.com/pwi/items/21422

    That would require them to fix the Trophy Modes. Lol. Might happen eventually but being as all their fixes come as a bundle will probably be a LONG time.
  • snufalufaguss
    snufalufaguss Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited October 2011
    So would +20 vit stones be better than JoSD?
  • Suaver - Raging Tide
    Suaver - Raging Tide Posts: 118 Arc User
    edited October 2011
    KrittyCat wrote: »
    There are many items on the database which are a horrible idea to add. Stone of the Brute is one of them... can you imagine a Rank 9 Barb fully geared out with Stone of the Brutes and +12ed? His HP would be literally through the roof, and his Arma would knock down walls in Archosaur (a little bit of an exaggeration, but still...). Some of the stuff in the database needs to stay right where it is - on an internet page.


    I actually agree. Full +10 vit +12 r9 barbs are still hell of a tank.
    Try killing a vit stone sharded +12 sin. or bm, or psy, or anything at that point...
    You would be doubling the vit per shard? 300 hp for me as a bm? That's ridiculous.

    Allow me demonstrate: http://pwcalc.com/71a316726be8ab8d - Sin GG. More hp then most barbs I see.
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  • ClericMD - Lost City
    ClericMD - Lost City Posts: 127 Arc User
    edited October 2011
    I want this little belt:

    http://www.pwdatabase.com/pwi/items/20237

    I dont see nothing bad for that be implement in game.
  • Mammorai - Sanctuary
    Mammorai - Sanctuary Posts: 35 Arc User
    edited October 2011
    ClericMD - Lost City wrote: »
    I want this little necklace:

    http://www.pwdatabase.com/pwi/items/20237

    I dont see nothing bad for that be implement in game.

    It's a belt.
  • ClericMD - Lost City
    ClericMD - Lost City Posts: 127 Arc User
    edited October 2011
    Mammorai - Sanctuary wrote: »
    It's a belt.

    fixed b:laugh
  • Mammorai - Sanctuary
    Mammorai - Sanctuary Posts: 35 Arc User
    edited October 2011
    ClericMD - Lost City wrote: »
    fixed b:laugh

    b:surrender

    The troll in me made me do it!b:cry
  • Ikarium - Dreamweaver
    Ikarium - Dreamweaver Posts: 631 Arc User
    edited October 2011
    I'd like to see the unused weapon models for over lvl105 (original 6 classes) implemented in some way. Just cause I like to see variety rather than the same weapon models over and over :P

    Stuff like this
  • Veri - Lothranis
    Veri - Lothranis Posts: 127 Arc User
    edited October 2011
    ClericMD - Lost City wrote: »
    I want this little belt:

    http://www.pwdatabase.com/pwi/items/20237

    I dont see nothing bad for that be implement in game.

    Cool hat where does it drop ?
  • snufalufaguss
    snufalufaguss Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited October 2011
    LA orns ftw.

    Pendant of War
    Pendant of Peace
    Pendant of Valor
  • krittycat
    krittycat Posts: 4,187 Community Moderator
    edited October 2011
    snufalufaguss wrote: »
    LA orns ftw.

    Pendant of War
    Pendant of Peace
    Pendant of Valor

    Just what Assassins need.b:sweat
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  • Deaths$in - Sanctuary
    Deaths$in - Sanctuary Posts: 16 Arc User
    edited October 2011
    KrittyCat wrote: »
    There are many items on the database which are a horrible idea to add. Stone of the Brute is one of them... can you imagine a Rank 9 Barb fully geared out with Stone of the Brutes and +12ed? His HP would be literally through the roof, and his Arma would knock down walls in Archosaur (a little bit of an exaggeration, but still...). Some of the stuff in the database needs to stay right where it is - on an internet page.

    I disagree, I believe that if someone had the money to get it, then it should be allowed.
    They could always release it and make it like a +12 Garnet or something.
    For example:
    6primeval stones to make a (new stone that would have to be created that would be +15vit) then 6 of those to make a Stone of Brute that would be +20vit. You should be able to combine primeval like this.

    Simplified: 36 Primeval Stones = 6 (of the new stone) = 1 Stone of Brute

    And if a person is rich enough to do that, then they deserve to have it lol.

    There's a difference between not allowing an item and and item just being rare. I'm pretty sure that if you had to do that to get 1 Stone of Brute, it would be an extremely rare thing to see a barb with full r9 fully sharded with all stones of brute.

    If there was such a thing as a true Vitality Barb, it would be this one I created on the Calc.
    http://pwcalc.com/62beca60c9b329c4

    Now that's a Barb lol It has all the regular barb/cleric/bm buffs that people tend to get.

    b:laughb:laughb:laugh
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  • krittycat
    krittycat Posts: 4,187 Community Moderator
    edited October 2011
    Deaths$in - Sanctuary wrote: »
    I disagree, I believe that if someone had the money to get it, then it should be allowed.
    They could always release it and make it like a +12 Garnet or something.
    For example:
    6primeval stones to make a (new stone that would have to be created that would be +15vit) then 6 of those to make a Stone of Brute that would be +20vit. You should be able to combine primeval like this.

    Simplified: 36 Primeval Stones = 6 (of the new stone) = 1 Stone of Brute

    And if a person is rich enough to do that, then they deserve to have it lol.

    There's a difference between not allowing an item and and item just being rare. I'm pretty sure that if you had to do that to get 1 Stone of Brute, it would be an extremely rare thing to see a barb with full r9 fully sharded with all stones of brute.

    If there was such a thing as a true Vitality Barb, it would be this one I created on the Calc.
    http://pwcalc.com/b4e5ddff244bd8ca

    Now that's a Barb lol It has all the regular barb/cleric/bm buffs that people tend to get.

    b:laughb:laughb:laugh

    In other words, make the game more Pay 2 Win than it already is said to be? No thanks.
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  • ViciousMinx - Dreamweaver
    ViciousMinx - Dreamweaver Posts: 385 Arc User
    edited October 2011
    If they added all the items that you could earn/farm as intended what ever would they put in the packs?b:chuckle
  • Nowitsawn - Heavens Tear
    Nowitsawn - Heavens Tear Posts: 4,864 Arc User
    edited October 2011
    ViciousMinx - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    If they added all the items that you can earn/farm as intended what ever would they put in the packs?b:chuckle

    Even better items b:quiet
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  • Deaths$in - Sanctuary
    Deaths$in - Sanctuary Posts: 16 Arc User
    edited October 2011
    KrittyCat wrote: »
    In other words, make the game more Pay 2 Win than it already is said to be? No thanks.

    You know Kritty, your a cool cat, but I still disagree once again lol

    You don't have to pay to win to play this game. Besides, what does it matter to you? You don't have to spend money on the game; People that spend money on the game choose to and its none of anyone's business(not even mine) about how people spend "their" money... Whats the difference between spending $50 dollars on a Dragon Orb +10 and spending that money on a Stone of Brute?

    ALSO!, another point I'd like to make is that PWI, doesn't care that its pay to win. Their getting paid so it doesn't matter. If they really cared about people paying money to get items, they wouldn't be putting them in the shop, or they could either raise the price so barely anyone gets them or lower it so low that everyone could have good "stuff".

    If you disagree with what I'm saying please tell me :D I love debates, and I usually win them.
    b:pleasedb:victory Btw what did you think about my Barb build?
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  • brazenbusboy
    brazenbusboy Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited October 2011
    Not sure I understood the question, but...

    I wish that all profession and race locks on all items would be removed.

    I wish that all items would be trade-able.

    Number one would get us away from the cookie cutter builds and revitalize 'balance'. This would reward creative new builds that take smarts to create, not huge credit card charges.

    Number two would do the same and vitalize the ingame economy. It would allow more ways to earn credits in game.

    Heresy I know, ducking sticks and stones now...b:avoid
    Just some guy
  • Nowitsawn - Heavens Tear
    Nowitsawn - Heavens Tear Posts: 4,864 Arc User
    edited October 2011
    Deaths$in - Sanctuary wrote: »
    You don't have to pay to win to play this game.

    Nope, but you can. And it's infinitely easier/faster than grinding/merching for it.
    Deaths$in - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Besides, what does it matter to you? You don't have to spend money on the game; People that spend money on the game choose to and its none of anyone's business(not even mine) about how people spend "their" money... Whats the difference between spending $50 dollars on a Dragon Orb +10 and spending that money on a Stone of Brute?

    We're all playing the same game so it is everyone's business. It's like playing Monopoly with real money against a billionaire. Must be lots of fun, eh?
    Deaths$in - Sanctuary wrote: »
    ALSO!, another point I'd like to make is that PWI, doesn't care that its pay to win. Their getting paid so it doesn't matter. If they really cared about people paying money to get items, they wouldn't be putting them in the shop, or they could either raise the price so barely anyone gets them or lower it so low that everyone could have good "stuff".

    That is indeed the current trend PWI is following, and pretty much what everyone who doesn't pay huge amounts of money for an online game disagrees with. It's not about fun anymore, it's about money.
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  • Deaths$in - Sanctuary
    Deaths$in - Sanctuary Posts: 16 Arc User
    edited October 2011
    Nowitsawn - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    Nope, but you can. And it's infinitely easier/faster than grinding/merching for it.



    We're all playing the same game so it is everyone's business. It's like playing Monopoly with real money against a billionaire. Must be lots of fun, eh?



    That is indeed the current trend PWI is following, and pretty much what everyone who doesn't pay huge amounts of money for an online game disagrees with. It's not about fun anymore, it's about money.

    Honestly you don't have to use real money to be able to go to fcc to lvl. I for one use in only in game coin to buy fcc when I want to. Granted, it is quicker to get the money to buy fcc if you just buy gold and sell it.

    So you believe that what people spend on this game is your business? I disagree with you good sir. If a billionaire plays this game good for him, he has billions to spend on this game. Some people that I know of that are really good spend like $20 a month on the game. and they use the money they get from that to merchant and make tons more in game coin so strongly disagree on your post no offense.

    Glad you agree with the current trend lol, seems to me that everyone knows that. It has become common knowledge. lol b:laughb:laugh
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  • Lyritha - Heavens Tear
    Lyritha - Heavens Tear Posts: 447 Arc User
    edited October 2011
    all I ask is for a warsoul weapon sale that brings them down to less than the price of rank 9... it is only fair that I have this super weapon that goes into the account stash. :D
  • Chillum - Dreamweaver
    Chillum - Dreamweaver Posts: 887 Arc User
    edited October 2011
    I'll just take this and this please...

    b:avoid
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  • Deaths$in - Sanctuary
    Deaths$in - Sanctuary Posts: 16 Arc User
    edited October 2011
    Chillum - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    I'll just take this and this please...

    b:avoid

    When I asked the question I was meaning stuff that players would be "allowed" to use lol
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  • Nowitsawn - Heavens Tear
    Nowitsawn - Heavens Tear Posts: 4,864 Arc User
    edited October 2011
    Deaths$in - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Honestly you don't have to use real money to be able to go to fcc to lvl. I for one use in only in game coin to buy fcc when I want to. Granted, it is quicker to get the money to buy fcc if you just buy gold and sell it.

    Paying for your levels is a different story altogether, you indeed don't need to spend real money to get to a high level at all, but then you're level 100 in green TT +3 and then what?

    Deaths$in - Sanctuary wrote: »
    So you believe that what people spend on this game is your business? I disagree with you good sir. If a billionaire plays this game good for him, he has billions to spend on this game. Some people that I know of that are really good spend like $20 a month on the game. and they use the money they get from that to merchant and make tons more in game coin so strongly disagree on your post no offense.

    The amount of power people get by spending money affects everyone's gameplay, so yes, it's everyone's business. Can we do anything about it? No, of course not.

    I'm personally not blaming people for spending lots of money on this game, it's not like it hasn't been around since forever or anything, but I do blame PWE (or whoever truly is in charge) for creating such a massive power gap between paying and non-paying players. Or actually, **** that, we have gaps between non-paying players, paying players and excessively paying players. I also blame people people like you who think such a thing should be considered normal.

    There are indeed a lot of success stories about people who made it big with merchanting, but sadly it's not a thing many people are good at (and it would only get harder if a lot of people were good at it). It's far from a redeeming factor to the cashfest this game has become.
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