Seeker in PvP

ThunderSword - Momaganon
ThunderSword - Momaganon Posts: 10 Arc User
edited October 2011 in Seeker
our only stun is Voidstep. i am starting to think that we seekers are just Brutal Force and just go straight to kill only skill combo's no stunning or such no healing skills. could any1 say if i am right or not and can you explain what we need ot do in PK then?

Ty for answering
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  • TolanSky - Heavens Tear
    TolanSky - Heavens Tear Posts: 598 Arc User
    edited September 2011
    our only stun is Voidstep. i am starting to think that we seekers are just Brutal Force and just go straight to kill only skill combo's no stunning or such no healing skills. could any1 say if i am right or not and can you explain what we need ot do in PK then?

    Ty for answering

    technically it is not true that our only stun is voidstep. We also have Parcheblade Dance as an additional Stun. Though Parcheblade Dance is rather ineffective on the whole.

    That said, one good Gemini Slash is often enough to end most fights before they even start. Even if it doesn't then we also have Edged Blur to deter people from getting close enough to do damage to us as we can both attack them with our ordinary attacks while simultaneously doing AoE damage to them.

    All said Seeker is anything BUT useless in PvP. The problem is most PvP'ers these days have Rank 9 Armor, for better or worse, while Seekers are still without their Rank 9 Armor.
    Acc 1: TolanSky ~ ● Seeker / Daearena ~ Mystic / ThornLily ~ Veno
    Acc 2: Veilana ~ Sin / QueenBlubrry ~ Cleric / Lemondrop ~ Psychic
  • VitalityX - Lost City
    VitalityX - Lost City Posts: 27 Arc User
    edited September 2011
    From what I've seen and been testing out, its all about being clever and slick with your stances and debuffs. However, Sins don't play nice, so the arsenal of ranged and added Metal damage to attacks is what gives the Seeker the edge.
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
    Seekers rule!
  • WhiteBish - Momaganon
    WhiteBish - Momaganon Posts: 6 Arc User
    edited September 2011
    Seekers get a heal as one of their 79 skills, and sage voidstep allows them to stun the enemy for longer. As a seeker you need to burst squishies before they can kill you using blade affiniy, gemeni strike, arme nier, and heartseeker. Agaist sins/BMs you need to sprint, blade affinity, immobilize with heartseeker then land gemeni and hopefully you'll have the spirit bore proc on them, and you try to kill them at range before they can stun lock you. Sage quid is very helpful in pvp also as it silences the enemy for 4 seconds and transfers pretty much any debuff you have on you. If you're finding someone too tanky to kill i suggest using occult ice on a genie and vortex.
    If a sin keeps stunning you and you know they're gonna stun more, try using edged blur.


    Basically your main pvp damaging skills are Blade Affinity (doesn't directly deal damage but is required to land the following skills quickly), Gemeni Strike, Heartseeker, Arme Nier and Battousai.
    The non dmg pvp skills that are required would be Unfetter, Quid Pro Quo, Voidstep, and Last Stand.

    Good ways to increase your damage potential greatly as a seeker is to go for high crit rate and a zerk wep.

    Hope this helps.

    -Edit-
    Lol just noticed that you're ThunderSword, if you have any questions about Seekers just ask me in game :p
  • kenykenken
    kenykenken Posts: 2 Arc User
    edited October 2011
    WOW whitebish am convinced on ur tactics in pvp.

    its good,very goodb:victory
  • Litermen - Lost City
    Litermen - Lost City Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited October 2011
    i have a higher lvl chacher who got one shot by a seeker who is in a lower lvl 3 lvl short actually it was a dex and strgth seeker and yeah one shot me at full hp with some crazy aoe crit
  • SoulPlay - Heavens Tear
    SoulPlay - Heavens Tear Posts: 194 Arc User
    edited October 2011
    as white said

    ALL BASED ON UR 10 ATTACK N DEF DEBUFF

    HA classes

    blade affinity > arme nir or heartseeker (to debuff) > gemini (opens debuff) > pretty much game over if not throw in edged blur here

    LA (yes sins included idc about your aps)

    sage unfetter 4 sec anti stun > blade affinity > arme nir or heartseeker (to debuff) > gemini (opens debuff) > game over

    Robes

    blade affinity > gemini ....... some might need more than this so throw arme nir
  • Neodaystar - Sanctuary
    Neodaystar - Sanctuary Posts: 1,020 Arc User
    edited October 2011
    as white said

    ALL BASED ON UR 10 ATTACK N DEF DEBUFF

    HA classes

    blade affinity > arme nir or heartseeker (to debuff) > gemini (opens debuff) > pretty much game over if not throw in edged blur here

    LA (yes sins included idc about your aps)

    sage unfetter 4 sec anti stun > blade affinity > arme nir or heartseeker (to debuff) > gemini (opens debuff) > game over

    Robes

    blade affinity > gemini ....... some might need more than this so throw arme nir

    Very effective. And if you have the extra spark to spare, use the skill Ion Spike to do aoe damage, aoe metal debuff, and aoe Soulsever Minuet debuff - instead of arme nir or heartseeker before using gemini for even more metal damage:D
  • Alsiadorra - Sanctuary
    Alsiadorra - Sanctuary Posts: 1,004 Arc User
    edited October 2011
    For me it pretty much boils down to this: If I open with voidstep, there's a high chance I'm going to win.
  • Hexalot - Dreamweaver
    Hexalot - Dreamweaver Posts: 871 Arc User
    edited October 2011
    For me it pretty much boils down to this: If I open with voidstep, there's a high chance I'm going to win.

    Though admittedly I don't PvP much, I think this one skill is really what separates Seekers and BMs when it comes to 1 vs 1 PvP... even with the general lack of disabling skills for the EG when compared to the latter.

    For all the BM's stuns and aps... he still has to expend quite a lot of effort during the fight attempting to close with his opponent... and that can be a real pain when it comes to kiters such as mages and archers. A teleport/stunning skill with a 38 meter range on the other hand solves that problem quite nicely. Just ask the Sins out there who have been using (abusing ?) it for ages now.
  • CessiI - Dreamweaver
    CessiI - Dreamweaver Posts: 176 Arc User
    edited October 2011
    i dont know how manny times i said this to other seekers,

    never, EVER use spirit bore in pvp, is absolutely useless,

    10 def level and 10 attack lvl reduce? come on, thats not good enough to even notice

    rather have patchblade stance and get a timed stunn in >.>
  • ReMakaBo - Archosaur
    ReMakaBo - Archosaur Posts: 845 Arc User
    edited October 2011
    Spirit bore useless? Double attack of phy/mag from gemini strike at a range can be quite sexy on LA classes.
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  • Hexalot - Dreamweaver
    Hexalot - Dreamweaver Posts: 871 Arc User
    edited October 2011
    i dont know how manny times i said this to other seekers,

    never, EVER use spirit bore in pvp, is absolutely useless,

    10 def level and 10 attack lvl reduce? come on, thats not good enough to even notice

    rather have patchblade stance and get a timed stunn in >.>

    Yeah... but with its 20% chance to activate, good luck trying to get Parch to trigger during a fight. b:surrender
  • CessiI - Dreamweaver
    CessiI - Dreamweaver Posts: 176 Arc User
    edited October 2011
    i dont get why peaple QQ about the 20% chance, am i the onely seeker who uses melee auto attacks?

    couse if you melee a few, that chain debuff icon will pop litterly ALWAYS, just saying

    edit: to the non-seekers, its not 20% chance to stun, it is 20% chance to get the debuff on teh target wich will chain to a garanteed stunn,

    20% chance on each hit you do aint so bad, honestly
  • _Belgarion_ - Dreamweaver
    _Belgarion_ - Dreamweaver Posts: 171 Arc User
    edited October 2011
    20% chance on each hit you do aint so bad, honestly

    If your trying to rush kill your opponent and kill them then you wont be auto-attacking, just using skills, and to that end Soulsever is more effective - higher proc rate so it's likely to happen when you heartseeker and higher damage, and activated by your highest damaging single use skill (Gemini). Chances are if your auto-attacking then your dead unless its a barb...
  • CessiI - Dreamweaver
    CessiI - Dreamweaver Posts: 176 Arc User
    edited October 2011
    If your trying to rush kill your opponent and kill them then you wont be auto-attacking, just using skills, and to that end Soulsever is more effective - higher proc rate so it's likely to happen when you heartseeker and higher damage, and activated by your highest damaging single use skill (Gemini). Chances are if your auto-attacking then your dead unless its a barb...

    seriously, +12 sins hit onely 300 damage per hit, i can tank them, BMs, lol, 150 per hit,

    now i dont know what kind of peaple you all fight, but i NEVER killed a good geared BM with a gemini slash, i also never killed a verry good geared arcane with a single gemini,

    call me stupid, but i like to melee with my seeker and cast the debuffs like that, you would onely see me kyte and range DD vs sins
  • AWildPokemon - Raging Tide
    AWildPokemon - Raging Tide Posts: 20 Arc User
    edited October 2011
    idk who said they use heartseeker on HA classes to put spiritbore on them, but seems a bit dumb to me, each time i heartseeker on a barb/bm and it doesnt immobilize them im like ****. heartseeker is like your best skill against them, i find myself using north sky waltz a lot to debuf > heartseeker > edged blur

    only time i still use spiritbore effect is on LA's or AA's, put that on them, switch to north sky, proc and trigger that and then gemini slash with extreme poison
  • Yuniryu - Raging Tide
    Yuniryu - Raging Tide Posts: 516 Arc User
    edited October 2011
    idk who said they use heartseeker on HA classes to put spiritbore on them, but seems a bit dumb to me, each time i heartseeker on a barb/bm and it doesnt immobilize them im like ****. heartseeker is like your best skill against them, i find myself using north sky waltz a lot to debuf > heartseeker > edged blur

    only time i still use spiritbore effect is on LA's or AA's, put that on them, switch to north sky, proc and trigger that and then gemini slash with extreme poison

    ^_^ Yeah i remember trying that at low level. I fought a seeker back xD at like 50 and he used northern wind too, and won a few times.
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
  • InControl - Lost City
    InControl - Lost City Posts: 14 Arc User
    edited October 2011
    ROFL, Voidstep-Blade Affinity-Edge Blur-Ginimi Slash-Bramble Rage-and those really fast aoe skills-

    ^^Kills anyone. (other than +12 r9s)