Gear advice

HellWariorB - Raging Tide
HellWariorB - Raging Tide Posts: 219 Arc User
edited October 2011 in Assassin
These is my current gears on my sage sin:

http://pwcalc.com/3f56a68916dff7d2

Working atm on helm. What do u suggest to improve? Refine, gems, etc (Waiting atm on 20 gold for Dorbs +10 for weapons and saving for 2xgarnets ) b:chuckle.


Ty.
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  • Nightsfangs - Archosaur
    Nightsfangs - Archosaur Posts: 69 Arc User
    edited October 2011
    HellWariorB - Raging Tide wrote: »
    These is my current gears on my sage sin:

    http://pwcalc.com/3f56a68916dff7d2

    Working atm on helm. What do u suggest to improve? Refine, gems, etc (Waiting atm on 20 gold for Dorbs +10 for weapons and saving for 2xgarnets ) b:chuckle.


    Ty.

    Sins are LA so they 're low on phy def, so I think a more balanced build between Phy def shards and Hp would be better, also I 'd say use higher lvl gems.
    The voices in my head might not be real..............................................................but they have some good ideas!
  • Olbaze - Sanctuary
    Olbaze - Sanctuary Posts: 4,242 Arc User
    edited October 2011
    Switch all of the Flawlesses for at least Immaculates.

    Switch your helmet for either Warsoul of Earth or Ancestral Divine Hat.
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  • Empu - Sanctuary
    Empu - Sanctuary Posts: 1,154 Arc User
    edited October 2011
    Considering you already are working on hat and weapon :

    What is the ultimate aim for gems in armor? Atm your hp is decent, but if you want to shard with DoT or JoSD, you have to foresee to refine armor more so as not to have a major hp crash. If you go for higher grade citrines or vit stones, I would first refine ornaments more, your physical def is pretty low.
  • RunningTiger - Dreamweaver
    RunningTiger - Dreamweaver Posts: 243 Arc User
    edited October 2011
    Ok, you working on getting helm an it looks like you next step is to stack coins/gold waiting on a decent orb sale...unfortunately pwi gave you the shaft an raised prices atm.

    gear wise you shouldnt worry about spending any coins on it as you will get no return from it. I mean with your current gear, your not gonna switch out say gems, an all the sudden have an increased capacity to earn coins.(unless you went with top of the line gems) I generally think refines comes before gems and sockets, however-make sure everything is atleast 3 sockets as thats a safe investment an not so costly.

    In your spare time when your burnt out on farming for coin, try tagging along with a more advanced friend or guildy on public quest 3 an work towards getting a better ring for free. Its a great way to break the monotony of nirvana,fc, and tt.

    Obviously should have 95% of your skills saged out-this is maybe what you should be working on instead of gear.
  • HellWariorB - Raging Tide
    HellWariorB - Raging Tide Posts: 219 Arc User
    edited October 2011
    @ RunningTiger PQ 3 sounds good

    as for sage Skills i have all 92, focused mind, tidal, most 89 (still need PowerDash and Subsea)
    and PQ3 sounds good

    @ Empu

    DoT is my final goal
    http://pwcalc.com/3087e706de973866 - something like these

    @ Olbaze

    the HP gain is minimal for switching but maybe later after i'll get more gems from Nirvana

    @ Nightsfangs

    the survivability factor between garnets and cit was made and is a calc on archer forum (if i am not mistaken) and overall citrine is better then garnets


    Ty for reply and i wait for future suggestions.
    b:thanks
  • Empu - Sanctuary
    Empu - Sanctuary Posts: 1,154 Arc User
    edited October 2011
    HellWariorB - Raging Tide wrote: »
    @ Empu

    DoT is my final goal
    http://pwcalc.com/3087e706de973866 - something like these

    If that is your goal, just try to balance between refining armor/citrine gems more and replace the flawless/immac citrines. You really don't want to fall to low hp even for a short moment.

    Last comment, same as before, also put some refines on ornaments. That PQ ring at +5 is kind of a waste imo. If you got an ornament with that kind of refine return, better use it. It also makes up for having an unrefinable ornament (r8 ring, which is great on damage, but gimps def).
    HellWariorB - Raging Tide wrote: »
    @ Nightsfangs

    the survivability factor between garnets and cit was made and is a calc on archer forum (if i am not mistaken) and overall citrine is better then garnets

    I agree citrine is better then garnet, which just adds a 1-side advantage. Especially on soloing, citrines will pay of more then garnets as :
    -The dangerous attack is usually mag based
    -Garnets are plain neutralized by armor breaks
    -Refining ornaments will have a better impact for less cost, and will make the return of garnets rather small

    I only know 1 sin who pulled of a garnet kind of build with succes. But he had it's own specific reasons and knew very well why he did it, and what the drawbacks were.
  • RunningTiger - Dreamweaver
    RunningTiger - Dreamweaver Posts: 243 Arc User
    edited October 2011
    Yeah for what it is worth, ignoring the base stat, because you will have that anyways...
    Refining you ring is actually better than refining your ornaments after you get them to +4-5. I say that level because up untill 4-5 its pretty easy going an all your armor should be +4-5.
    At the 6th level of refine foor instance sky cover gives an additional 317 def and lionheart orn only gives 249 and even the lunar chaos ring gives 271
    At the 12th level sky cover gives 1575 def and the lunar orns only 1237 and even the lunar ring 1350def.

    So once the going gets tuff so to say, if you have your endgame ring, refine it before ornaments. Also remember that endgame your other ring will be the rank 9 ring chances are. (rank 9 ring is about the same cost as a lunar ring +10- at current crappy sales prices)
  • Blueblade__ - Archosaur
    Blueblade__ - Archosaur Posts: 50 Arc User
    edited October 2011
    Well here is my sin
    http://pwcalc.com/815082fd6b4a3492

    Pls rate and comment about what i should do afterwards.


    P.S: yes non of them are refined or sharded.(not planning on it either)

    Also heres my skills

    Twin strike Lvl 8
    Puncture wound Lvl 6
    Slipstream strike Lvl 10
    Raving Slash Lvl 2
    Wolf Emblem lvl 2
    Deep Sting lvl 2
    Focused Mind lvl 2
    Knife throw Lvl 1
    Rib Strike Lvl 5
    Shadow Escape lvl 5
    Bloodpaint lvl 1
    Tackling Slash lvl 1
    shadow jump Lvl 1
    Throatcut Lvl 1
    Deaden Nerves Lvl 1
    Chill of the Deep Lvl 1
    Maze steps lvl 1
    Earthen rift Lvl 1
    Rising Dragon lvl1
    Subsea, Headhunt and Inner Harmony Lvl 1
    Tideform Lvl 10

    I only haf Cat like Tread passive skill and its Lvl 4
    im wondering if i should get dagger devotion and the other skills and also info about the two 79 skills (I already haf mats for both) Also after doing what will i be able to do solo mode TT1-1 without charms? Also need help with i go either sage or demon and if so what skills should i get?

    Oh and i dont haf Powerdash shadow teleport , detection skill, dagger devo yet is it necessary to get em?

    I aint cashshopper and ive been playing from December 2010 IJS
  • Khiren - Lost City
    Khiren - Lost City Posts: 61 Arc User
    edited October 2011
    Blueblade__ - Archosaur wrote: »
    Well here is my sin
    http://pwcalc.com/815082fd6b4a3492

    Pls rate and comment about what i should do afterwards.


    P.S: yes non of them are refined or sharded.(not planning on it either)

    Also heres my skills

    Twin strike Lvl 8
    Puncture wound Lvl 6
    Slipstream strike Lvl 10
    Raving Slash Lvl 2
    Wolf Emblem lvl 2
    Deep Sting lvl 2
    Focused Mind lvl 2
    Knife throw Lvl 1
    Rib Strike Lvl 5
    Shadow Escape lvl 5
    Bloodpaint lvl 1
    Tackling Slash lvl 1
    shadow jump Lvl 1
    Throatcut Lvl 1
    Deaden Nerves Lvl 1
    Chill of the Deep Lvl 1
    Maze steps lvl 1
    Earthen rift Lvl 1
    Rising Dragon lvl1
    Subsea, Headhunt and Inner Harmony Lvl 1
    Tideform Lvl 10

    I only haf Cat like Tread passive skill and its Lvl 4
    im wondering if i should get dagger devotion and the other skills and also info about the two 79 skills (I already haf mats for both) Also after doing what will i be able to do solo mode TT1-1 without charms? Also need help with i go either sage or demon and if so what skills should i get?

    Oh and i dont haf Powerdash shadow teleport , detection skill, dagger devo yet is it necessary to get em?

    I aint cashshopper and ive been playing from December 2010 IJS

    Hijacking others' threads is a no-no.
    But, I'll humor you.

    Shard/refine your cape and blood moons. I don't care if you said you aren't, you NEED TO. Both are with you till at least 90. Blood moons till 99 cause they have more pdef than gold 90s, and they can sell for enough to get 99 gold wrists and maybe have some left over if you're good with sales.

    Yes, get dagger devotion. That is a PRIORITY. It INCREASES YOUR DAMAGE. A lot.
    Shadow teleport is a very good control skill. Get it.
    Powerdash is negligible till later. Your rib strike should be 10 as well. You always should open with that, and keep bosses ribbed too.

    If you've been playing since 2010 and are still 75, you should definitely invest in shards. That top is with you until 90 at least as well.

    Dear god change your neck and belt. DO NOT use evasion ornaments. Pdef ornaments are the way to go. Try for a viper's seal, and maybe an equine talisman (mdef orn, but it has pdef on it too. Good balance).
    For the boots, I prefer boots of tiger strength over TT70. More pdef because of the adds, probably a lot cheaper, and has HP adds.

    Helmet is okay. Dark Shinguards of Hades (69 LA pants) are far better than the 60 rank bottoms. Even genie shins (lv60 LA) are better. Might wanna refine the shinguards of hades a bit too, or buy refined/sharded ones. They stick with you for a while, around 20ish levels.

    Also, 69 mold daggers>TT70 daggers.

    making a calc for what I would have:

    http://pwcalc.com/12100160f88d69d5

    Refines on neck/belt/pants/boots are probably something you can buy them with. Wrists/cape/top you should do on your own.

    Almost 1k more HP and a decent bit more pdef for gear that is far superior and will last you longer than your items. Really, look into at least some of my changes. Hopefully if I missed something, someone will let me know.
  • RunningTiger - Dreamweaver
    RunningTiger - Dreamweaver Posts: 243 Arc User
    edited October 2011
    at that level shouldnt he have the helm of aqua visousness or something like that.
  • Blueblade__ - Archosaur
    Blueblade__ - Archosaur Posts: 50 Arc User
    edited October 2011
    Khiren - Lost City wrote: »
    Hijacking others' threads is a no-no.
    But, I'll humor you.

    Shard/refine your cape and blood moons. I don't care if you said you aren't, you NEED TO. Both are with you till at least 90. Blood moons till 99 cause they have more pdef than gold 90s, and they can sell for enough to get 99 gold wrists and maybe have some left over if you're good with sales.

    Yes, get dagger devotion. That is a PRIORITY. It INCREASES YOUR DAMAGE. A lot.
    Shadow teleport is a very good control skill. Get it.
    Powerdash is negligible till later. Your rib strike should be 10 as well. You always should open with that, and keep bosses ribbed too.

    If you've been playing since 2010 and are still 75, you should definitely invest in shards. That top is with you until 90 at least as well.

    Dear god change your neck and belt. DO NOT use evasion ornaments. Pdef ornaments are the way to go. Try for a viper's seal, and maybe an equine talisman (mdef orn, but it has pdef on it too. Good balance).
    For the boots, I prefer boots of tiger strength over TT70. More pdef because of the adds, probably a lot cheaper, and has HP adds.

    Helmet is okay. Dark Shinguards of Hades (69 LA pants) are far better than the 60 rank bottoms. Even genie shins (lv60 LA) are better. Might wanna refine the shinguards of hades a bit too, or buy refined/sharded ones. They stick with you for a while, around 20ish levels.

    Also, 69 mold daggers>TT70 daggers.

    making a calc for what I would have:

    http://pwcalc.com/12100160f88d69d5

    Refines on neck/belt/pants/boots are probably something you can buy them with. Wrists/cape/top you should do on your own.

    Almost 1k more HP and a decent bit more pdef for gear that is far superior and will last you longer than your items. Really, look into at least some of my changes. Hopefully if I missed something, someone will let me know.

    Thanks i know i hijacked but didnt think making two gear advice would be nice so i posted it here. And Last question what if used the lvl74 mold dags (just started using them)?

    Oh and when will i be able to solo TT1-1?
  • Khiren - Lost City
    Khiren - Lost City Posts: 61 Arc User
    edited October 2011
    Blueblade__ - Archosaur wrote: »
    Thanks i know i hijacked but didnt think making two gear advice would be nice so i posted it here. And Last question what if used the lvl74 mold dags (just started using them)?

    Oh and when will i be able to solo TT1-1?

    Either daggers are fine, I like the crit added from the dex on evilstares, but the shadow legends are better damage wise. :3
  • Typhyse - Sanctuary
    Typhyse - Sanctuary Posts: 3,469 Arc User
    edited October 2011
    Blueblade__ - Archosaur wrote: »
    Oh and when will i be able to solo TT1-1?
    When you give it a shot and succeed.
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  • Olbaze - Sanctuary
    Olbaze - Sanctuary Posts: 4,242 Arc User
    edited October 2011
    Typhyse - Sanctuary wrote: »
    When you give it a shot and succeed.

    But that's so vague! I'd have to like waste subs and time! And if I died I'd lose exp too! Can't you just tell me what gear I need to solo TTs? And **** you if you say "5aps or gtfo"!b:angry

    b:cute
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  • Typhyse - Sanctuary
    Typhyse - Sanctuary Posts: 3,469 Arc User
    edited October 2011
    Olbaze - Sanctuary wrote: »
    But that's so vague! I'd have to like waste subs and time! And if I died I'd lose exp too! Can't you just tell me what gear I need to solo TTs? And **** you if you say "5aps or gtfo"!b:angry

    b:cute
    Ok-okokok D:
    3k hp min, 2.5K+ mag and phys def with buffs, fully buffed ofc, late 70s to early 80s. Gear, good mold and TT gear for your level, highly recommend +2 refines on most of it.
    b:pleased
    Also an HP charm, lots of pots, guts, and skillz
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