Deicide makes it's move in tw

Do it again this week lol, stack them cos I wanna say some REALLY harsh and BITING stuff to them on WC...

And I'll do it from MY MAIN b:pleased (OOOHHHHHHH SNAP b:laugh)

how come no1 triple stacks catalyst?
they got like 50 people

MrHanky - Harshlands wrote: »

how come no1 triple stacks catalyst?
they got like 50 people

the only way 3 factions can attack with 3 factions winning if the stack was.

Valhalla - Kylin - Crimson

thats if they get it on the same day

other than that it would have to be 4 or more.

Catalyst can repel almost anything even with 50 because 50 rank 9's to most factions can kill everything.

Catalyst would simply defend against the bigger factions while everyone else takes on the smaller. Once the smaller are dead then the big wars get reiforced.

So that + no faction willing = No fun tw's for those attacking

They can manage the wars but the rest of the server cant so stacking and winning is a very far off dream.

You could ask all the leaders of the bigger factions why they dont and they answer will mostly be "they have to many rank 9's it will be over fast" or "they are better at tw we stand no chance at all" or "It would be no fun with a crystal rush and then we lose."

All of that equals it wont be much fun for either side.

Lutirica - Harshlands wrote: »

Catalyst can repel almost anything even with 50 because 50 rank 9's to most factions can kill everything.

TW is so easy to say: Do this>Win - Do that>Lose.

Success comes about because of team work, strategy and planning -- not so much because of gear or $$. And they have many very good non-ranked/R8 players that give one hell of an effort in TW too.

If I can't drive well > buying a race car or porche won't help me to drive better. It just means I have a more expensive toy to crash.

Aizza - Harshlands wrote: »

TW is so easy to say: Do this>Win - Do that>Lose.

Success comes about because of team work, strategy and planning -- not so much because of gear or $$. And they have many very good non-ranked/R8 players that give one hell of an effort in TW too.

If I can't drive well > buying a race car or porche won't help me to drive better. It just means I have a more expensive toy to crash.

In this case the sports car can be driven in any random direction, and run over all the pedestrians with no effort.

We would show to Kylin if it would have been possible. It wasnt.

Im still baffled with how many people want the map to be grey asap.

Yea, Valhalla are definitely the bad people. We **** your women and eat your children. Feel free to stack us.

Two things can happen.

1 - Nothing really happens, we stay as we are, a pretty drama-free familyish (very) active environment, and you keep typing on forum about us daily.

2 - We break up, go all over, and in some months people complain the map is grey and no one did anything about it.

Well guess what.

Kylin and Deicide are doing something about it. Crimson too. AL also. Even we are atm. Making it quicker, and more impossible over the weeks.

I would bid on Cata every single week if I knew other guilds wouldnt hide away at that thought.

I don't care for Kylin, I dont care for Deicide, I honestly dont even care for Catalyst.

But coming from a server where map was the same colour for YEARS(!) and it only got harder as time went by, damn right Id like to do something to prevent that from happening.

Unfortunately no other guilds would consider it and we definitely cant do it alone.


Peace. o/

Pry - Harshlands wrote: »

Im still baffled with how many people want the map to be grey asap.

I would bid on Cata every single week if I knew other guilds wouldnt hide away at that thought.

There's no way you actually believe your own hype.

Pry - Harshlands wrote: »

We would show to Kylin if it would have been possible. It wasnt.

Im still baffled with how many people want the map to be grey asap.

Yea, Valhalla are definitely the bad people. We **** your women and eat your children. Feel free to stack us.

Two things can happen.

1 - Nothing really happens, we stay as we are, a pretty drama-free familyish (very) active environment, and you keep typing on forum about us daily.

2 - We break up, go all over, and in some months people complain the map is grey and no one did anything about it.

Well guess what.

Kylin and Deicide are doing something about it. Crimson too. AL also. Even we are atm. Making it quicker, and more impossible over the weeks.

I would bid on Cata every single week if I knew other guilds wouldnt hide away at that thought.

I don't care for Kylin, I dont care for Deicide, I honestly dont even care for Catalyst.

But coming from a server where map was the same colour for YEARS(!) and it only got harder as time went by, damn right Id like to do something to prevent that from happening.

Unfortunately no other guilds would consider it and we definitely cant do it alone.


Peace. o/

You wanna know why people don't go for Catalyst?

If the server were to work against Catalyst tomorrow, there'd be the question of which guild would lead the way and become the new superpower. Two guilds come to mind: Kylin and Valhalla. Kylin is more experienced, but isn't popular with other guilds, nor does it have outstanding gear. Valhalla isn't experienced worth a damn, but has more guilds willing to support it in TW, has ridonkulous gear and maybe they could learn how to play. So let's assume that most people see Valhalla as the guild that would take over if Cata were beaten, simply because more guilds actively support you guys in TW. Now why wouldn't people want Val to take over?

The problem is you tell your story as if you are the heroes. As if you all were the good guys. (sound familiar?)

But you're not. No one can ****ing PK because of Valhalla and Valhalla alone. Not a day goes by that I don't have an example of how Valhalla kills a fun fight, or how they set up a ridiculous gank. And don't give me that "we don't call for backup" **** because I have a friend in Val who's given me a heads up if he hears a gank coming my way.

So first problem, you ruin the fun. Catalyst just chills at south gate and eventually (EVENTUALLY) ruins TW, but everything else is left alone and who knows if they would reset the map or not upon taking it all.

Second, you come here and lie about it. You give this condescending speech about how we all troll Valhalla and how you're so much more mature and sophisticated and never troll, and how you don't care about winning but rather care about fun and how you guys never intentionally gank and bla bla bla bla....And then you troll aswell when you win. And then I have this friend messaging me saying "I suppose that's you at Silver pool? Yeah you should run they're coming to gank." And then you don't even ATTEMPT to defend Kylin. And your sins relentlessly kill me as I'm dicking around with a level one sword, meleeing some wizzie who also has one (and also gets killed by Val). How does any of that support your claims that you're just after fun, that you're supposedly more mature than the server and that you don't care about winning?
And not only that, forgive me if I'm wrong, but I heard several people say that during the Deicide war you all were saying things along the lines of "zzzzzzz boring" and "their towers are their only dangerous players." So you ACTIVELY choose to attend Deicide, then you insult them for being a boring matchup, even though you were fully capable of attending our war, or hell, Catalyst's.
I'm SOOOO sick of this attitude. Is it so bad that you skipped out on Kylin for Deicide? It's a little cowardly (in the sense that what the hell, you could at least TRY to defend both; I somehow doubt you wouldn't be able to fall back into Deicide and win that war if things went sour with the Kylin war) but no, there's nothing wrong with it. What's wrong is the attitude. You all seem like you want to have your cake and eat it too. You want to claim maturity superiority, but you troll all the same. You want to claim you're after fun, but I challenge you to find a single guild that thinks the PK community has improved thanks to Valhalla. You claim you don't care about winning, but you lost ONCE to Catalyst and you've never tried again, and when given the option, you skip out on our war, which had been producing good one hour+ wars. You want to give a speech about how it's our fault for letting the map go grey, when as Okeano pointed out, you guys are DEFINITELY more responsible for a grey map than we are, seeing as you, y'know, ran the hell away? (though yes, every guild is at least a little responsible because we're all not doing anything.)
And every single time your guild is criticized, what happens?

"Your guild ganks."
"Evury guild gaenks."

No wtf, you know what? No they don't. Not anymore. Why? Because we CAN'T, because there's this great little guild called VALHALLA that ganks with r9 +12s spamming ironguards. "Ya well evury guild has cash shopurs." No, you know what? NO, not to the extent Val does. Everyone has one or two ridonkulous cash shoppers, but Val has way more. And that's besides the point; we're not talking about other guilds, we're talking about VALHALLA, but every time someone tries to criticize something you do (criticism that, if you'd ****ing listen to it, you could improve in game or improve your relations with other guilds), you just point the finger somewhere else instead of actually addressing the criticism.

So there's the second problem: you all seem totally delusional. You want to be the good guys, but you don't act the part at all. You guys just look.....well honestly it looks really stupid how you desperately try to deny any and all criticisms applied to your guild while pointing the finger at others, yet you don't actively do anything to prove those criticisms wrong.
You sit there saying "I'm not a thief" as you pick someone's pocket, then give us a speech about how mature and amazing you are. Yeah, as you can imagine, that's not going over too well.



And your final problem? Just how you wanna take over the server. You cash shop out the ***. At this point, I'm pretty sure Valhalla could feed a 3rd world nation for 2 years.

Do you not see how/why people would be cautious about the idea of passing your guild the keys to the server? Who exactly is supposed to stop you if that happens? If r9 recast came out tomorrow, I guarentee at least 10 of your members would have it the first day, several others getting it over time.

I often ask myself why Catalyst continues playing when they....well they barely play. They all play LoL. So why bother logging into the game every week to do a five minute crystal sprint? Seems like the game has stop becoming fun for them, and now it's more or less a chore. The conclusion I always come to is that part of them, they probably really loved good TWs and want to see another, and another part of them is afraid to let go, knowing that they have the power position now, and if they don't REALLY use it to it's full potential, then that's it. They basically have a key that allows them to NOT cash shop. Do you realize that with Catalyst's income, they can buy a r9 ring every week? That's pretty nice. They probably want to keep it that way because they probably don't want to have to cash shop or CAN'T cash shop.
But I like that system. If we decide we don't like Catalyst having that key, we stack them. They lose that income, they start losing power, and then another guild can take over. Cut their income off, cut their supplies off, they can die. But you? You've got several people just $h!tting money onto the server. Why would we want you to have more? What the HELL is ever gonna stop you if you guys get Catalyst's income combined with your cash shopping habits?

Besides that, it's just not a wonderful feeling to lose solely because some random Bozo thinks "$3000 dollars for a new weapon? I'LL TAKE IT." I mean, imagine if chess tournaments started offering a program that would recognize and highlight wise strategic moves for you, but you could only use it in the tournament if you paid $10,000. What would happen? People would get pi$$ed off, that's what would happen. Some dude would waltz in, buy the program, act like he's the ***** and ruin the fun for everyone. Chess tournaments would die. I'm not saying cash shopping is horribad, but to the extent Val does it? Oh yeah, holy ****. Slow down with that ****.

And that's your third problem. People recognize this issue, and while having Zulu/Cata/whatever you wanna call them behind the wheel for two years may not be ideal to some people, it's certainly better than the alternative.




And personally, I'd prefer that if someone takes over the map, they actually deserve it. Catalyst has a lot of good, experienced PVPers. Your guild has people with a lot of money who like ramming their heads against their keyboards.

Garaver - Harshlands wrote: »

I actually took the time to read that wall of text Longknife wrote, and I recommend every1 to read it, is pretty accurate, it strips down Valhalla to it's very essence, here's how I summarize it:

-Valhalla and Crimson are almost the same guild in attitude towards thinking about themselves as the "good guys"

-Valhalla is one of the biggest (if not the biggest) responsible on the pvp sucking nowadays.

-Valhalla "statements" are a contradiction; they say "we never give up, we keep trying" and hell no, they don't.

-There is cash shopping in a healthy way, there's cash shopping a little bit too much, there's sick cash shopping and there's Valhalla cash shopping.

Good post Long.

Longs post was good very good. Alot of it was correct. Except when he says so many like valhalla. I dont see it when i pvp but maybe im wrong.

In the end i dont care about the map color myself as long as they keep the ball rolling. Long is right if valhalla had that money the whole server would be doomed to high prices on everything.

Valhalla is more of a business than a real faction. They only care about more who cares who or what they kill along the way. With valhalla leadership being what it is and money and showing off all they do lets hope kylin and catalyst can keep killing them.

From the people i talk to the most hated lists are usually the same.

Valhalla
Catalyst
Kylin
Crimson
and so on

I doubt that any faction will come to give catalyst the fight that would be worth them coming to. Its sad in so many ways that it has come to the point where the good fights are gone and the boring fights begin to come.

Catalysts ~ win/lossing streak Being high in winning and low in losing.

Valhalla ~ blind and some what crazy views and plans. With a big loss streak against big factions.

Crimson ~ good history but has lost so much over time that it has died and lost itself.

Kylin ~ also a good history but cant hold the tide when it keeps smashing them.


Harshlands is lost, only 3 paths are before us

Catalyst keeps everything

Valhalla out lives catalyst and takes over ruling with money and making everyones life unfun

Another faction with mild goals and not so bad leadership and members takes the map.

There are three kinds of people in this world:

1) Those with loaded guns
2) Those who dig
3) Dead ones

Taarloor - Harshlands wrote: »

There are three types of posts on this forum:


-Those that discuss, in length, how the top two guilds on the server working with eachother is a good thing while being in absolute denial.

b:bye

How? And I ask that in the sense of....how the HELL can you whine about the two strongest guilds "working together" when you have everything you could possibly need to BE the strongest guild?

Learn how to ****ing play and yell at your sins for putting water gems in their daggers if you don't like it, then you could be one of the top guilds.

Kylin and Catalyst are only the top two because apparently no one else could find their butt if it weren't attached to them. They "work together" (more like leave each other be FOR NOW) out of respect for each other's ability to find their own butt all on their own, and in a more practical sense, they leave each other alone because Catalyst seeks a fun fight whereas Kylin would want to see how well they could do, and no one will leave Kylin the **** alone long enough for Kylin and Cata to be able to bid on each other and have a fun war where we see how well Kylin does. But any idiot can swipe a credit card, but apparently only ~400 or so players can figure out how to play the game decently, so every so often that 400 of us likes to point at the rest as they try and find their butt and ask each other "wtf is wrong with them and why can't they find their butts?" That's the common ground that connects us. Nothing less, nothing more.
You have no one to blame but yourself for not being able to find your own butt. You have all the gear, the TW attendance and funding neccesary to be -THE- top guild, and yet you're probably more like 4th because you still can't find your own butt. And running from Kylin, or more specifically, running from Catalyst (since running from Kylin is only a direct result of running from Catalyst), is NOT gonna help you find your own butt.

You whine about this as if this were a case of the powerful oppressing the weak. No no, WE'RE the underdogs here, not you. An underdog is a competitor thought to have little chance of winning a fight or contest, and I'm sure if you showed Valhalla's roster and Kylin's roster to any other PWI server, they'd expect you to win. Sincerely doubt you'd find a single person who would consider you the underdog. Hell, I'm willing to bet that if you compared Catalyst's roster to Valhalla's, a decent amount (perhaps a majority) of strangers would expect you to win.
So the underdog is winning. Hysterious for us, embarribad for you. Do something about it then.
Ignorance is a choice. There's no reason why Valhalla shouldn't be the number one guild on the server. YOU are ****ing up, and no, don't expect the rest of the server to tell you HOW you're ****ing up. It's a competition, after all.

Taarloor - Harshlands wrote: »

-Those that discuss, in length, how the top two guilds on the server working with eachother is a good thing while being in absolute denial.
b:bye

THIS is all I wanted to hear from you Taar, this one line. So let me be absolutely sure: by "Top two guilds on the server", you meant Kylin and Catalyst? Is that correct? I'm just checking to be ABSOLUTELY sure.

LOLOLOLOLOL

it's crazy how all the post are full of hates

its just a game o..o b:chuckle

just try to enjoy it however you want, really no need taht much hate b:kissb b:kiss

If Valhalla really wants to win TW I'd be willing to be your guild leader for ~3000 dollares or an equal amount of fashion. I'll turn your guild around. This is not a troll post by the way b:thanks.