Am I missing something?

Asterelle - Sanctuary wrote: »

People like to think this game requires to rush to endgame to be good at. It makes them feel better about themselves.

fixed for you.

(I always wanted to do that b:chuckle)

Asterelle - Sanctuary wrote: »

People like to think this game requires a college degree to be good at. It makes them feel better about themselves.

And of course, a simple bachelor's degree is not sufficient. No, indeed.

PhD or gtfo.b:dirty

EIvemage - Dreamweaver wrote: »

dude its a huge pain if people just buy their levels and then jump into high lvl squads (like 90+ fcs)... ive seens so many bad people its unbelievable like DDing clerics (edit2: with dding i mean dding not debuffing...)that just wellspring once in a while which is far from beeing enought to keep everyone alive... cleric is simple once you get the hang of it but your team relies heavily on you and things like agro mechanics, healing, dding/debuffing, staying alive... are not learnt by buying your levels.
cleric was my first account that i leveled to 83 before hypers came out, without using any oracles so i dare to judge other clerics and you can instantly tell which ones bought their levels and which ones are legit.

I hate to break this to you, but cleric in this game is in no way any harder than healing in any other game. It is not hard at all to learn how to play a cleric properly. You do not need 80+ levels of grinding/BH to learn how to play it.

Psytrac - Dreamweaver wrote: »

A cleric/mystic should know how to debuff and heal the party properly.
A tank (barb, BM (sometimes), seeker) should know how to hold agro on a boss and keep the party from taking excessive amounts of damage.
DDs (sin, psy, wizard, veno (tanks too sometimes) ) their job is to deal a controlled amount of damage, but each class does specific things, and players should KNOW the classes before jumping headlong into endgame with them

fixed, DD's should also control the amount of damage they put out so to not steal agro, like a wiz taking off their wep at the start of a zhen.

prof wrote: »

for some reason, people think you actually learn everything about your class whilst doing quest or grinding mobs.

honestly, nothing i picked up in pve taught me **** in pvp; this game is, literally, all about the pvp - why not jump straight to it..?

If the only thing to this game was PVP there would be no PVE servers, and at last count there are more PVE servers then PVP servers. But that is off the main topic.

I'd say power level or don't as you like. It's a game play it the way you want to play it. Whether it be rushing to the level cap so you can TW or PVP or take your time with the abundance of quests. It's a game and it's here for your enjoyment.

I think one of the advantages of slow leveling is making decisions faster. For example on my archer if I'm getting hit hard by a mob and have to choose between stunning him and knocking him back the fact that knocking him back is the faster skill is an issue. But stunning keeps me from taking damage for a longer amount of time. After you grind through enough mobs you can make the right decision for where your HP is quickly.

I could go on, the issue is making the right decision fast. Given enough time the right decision in PW is child's play. But you have to make it fast often enough that training your reflexes is valuable.

And seriously, there are some messed up high levels out there. This week I was in a squad with an 80 lvl archer who didn't know archer stuns don't work on bosses.

But slow leveling isn't magic. I know a slow leveling archer who will still uses Frost Arrow twice in a single attack on a mob. The second one comes after the mob is stationary. Some ppl are just skill spammers and you can't change them.

I still cringe every time I think about an 8x cleric I encountered during BH69 a while back. They had no idea which spells to use and their gear consisted of white and 1 star level 30 stuff. They couldn't keep anyone alive and they definitely couldn't take a hit when they somehow got aggro. We should not have to tell a cleric (or anyone for that matter) which skills they should be using at that level. If I recall correctly, at least one person ragequit because the cleric was so fail and we ended up adding a high level guildie to help us complete it. That cleric was a prime example of why power leveling is frowned upon by some. A cave meant for level 80-90 players is not the appropriate place to start learning how to play. As someone else said, the earlier BHs that were skipped were the place for that.

Think doing heads until 80 is a good idea on a character you're not familiar with? Please stick to doing BH and FF runs with your faction. It's not fair to potentially cause others to lose the experience they worked for because you paid for all of yours.

Aside from the spirit issue, I don't have that big of a problem with people power leveling alts if they already know how to play and can afford to. By that I mean able to afford skills and gear appropriate for their level. What good is someone 80+ if they can't do their job and spend most of their time on the ground? We all make mistakes and die from time to time, but there's a difference between the occasional mistake and someone constantly **** up because they don't know how to play.

Play however you want to play.

But if you did just buy heads, at least let your squad know. Maybe they'll teach you what to do at certain parts of the (BH, TT, FC, delta, Nirvy, etc) run like "BB here", "just party heal here", etc etc

In this game, being lvl 105 doesn't make you pro. There's no point in debating over this buying FC heads issue.

A purely mechanical reason not to be an idiot and buy heads is because the spirit yield is pitifully low and you will not have any hope of keeping skills leveled, which is hard enough even with the normal 5/1 exp ratio. Don't believe me? Look at how much sp you get per head.

In general I consider buying and selling frost is the domain of people with little sense like the blatant cheater in this thread whose level should've gotten him/her/it banned weeks ago. It does take practice to know what to do, when. Lving semi-legit, even if it's mostly off bh or actual frost at +80, gives you some idea of what you're expected to know, both in terms of your class and the game's mechanics.

No matter what uninformed opinion some might espouse that this is not necessary, I've seen proof that it simply yields bad players. Some people are intelligent enough to pick up how to play quickly--most aren't. You're hurting both how much you can do to get enjoyment from the game and your ability to play it by buying frost, and I would strongly advise against it.