Veno Fox form and Melee Weapons

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KrittyCat wrote: »

The only way I would support this was if they were suggesting a new branch of weapons for the fox form. As it is, if they were able to use Claws in fox form, venos would join the ranks of current OP classes. Amp + Melee Mastery + 5aps = GG.

Support this as well b:chuckle b:victory

Still supporting. b:victory

The number of scenarios where a heavy/robe veno will prefer to melee an opponent in fox instead of casting when in PvP are few and far between.... and in those cases, 2.22 does the job just fine when it's needed.

It still won't come close to out-damaging sins unfortunately (especially with their zerk weapons and wolf emblem). You can't really say it would break the game when the game is already broken.

Bump!

however there is no denying that the fox form is one of the least used aspects of the veno and this is something I feel would help to promote more players attempting that build because they will be able to make better use of it than is currently possible using the magic weapons only

True, this forum can support you, just look at the veno thread, all the heavy venos quits after some time, cause It doesn't worth, everything that the game have works for melee venos, for example:

*MP reduction in fox form, for you be close of a melee character, since they don't spend points in Int;
*Attack bonus with mastery, that It's good;
*Increased def, since you wear robes this will help to reduce the penality, if you go light armor you won't will have spare points for HP, so It will be: +Def/-HP (same thing).

BUT the attack gain really It's little for a melee character, my max damage at lv70 was the minimun damage of a Blademaster using swords, the duration of the fox form skills really don't worth the trouble for cast then (and WTF is that Malefic Crush debuff? Worthless debuff ever, everyone have charms and can pot), most of the light venos that I know preffer build a atk spd reduction set, cast Amplify Damage and then smack down the boss with fists.

I understand that the pet It's part of the Veno damage, but a good PvP pet is the one that can fly, and honestly the game should give to Venos different options than sawflies since they die in one hit. Today for a Veno a Nix is a must-have, better don't be a Veno if you don't have Nix and Hercules, and the way that the Mystic summons developes are way better, the Veno pets should work like that too, actualy It's a waste of soul to spend on those pet skills other than Flesh Realm and stun.

PS: talking about PVP, for the pets everything works for PVE.
Edit: I forgot to mention that they receive hit rate in fox form too, for compensate the lack of Dex.

I more than support this.
You will rarely see a veno in fox form (only maybe to use a few skills then change again).
The melee mastery and melee skills are really useless skill since, by the limitation of the magic wep, no veno is going for a melee build.
Venos have a hard time getting in frost squads and such, but having the chance to get high aps and a descent melee wep will really improve things.