Full attack cleric - Should I?

Uhh so your saying you want to make an LA attack cleric....

Horrible choice, difference in magic attack by a ton and you only get around 5% more crit and are as squishy as a sin or archer.

I only say LA because you can't wear armor with just dex and mag...

Pure Build , LvL everything , get good gear ,

A cleric nowdays needs attacks debuffs and heals , squads and PVP are demanding.

Only go pure mag if you can get good gear. By good gear, I mean getting at least 6-7k HP and a decent amount of pdef unbuffed. If not, add vit.

Since when did getting +3 on everything cost a lot of money? Don't do Vit, to get rid of that much vit endgame when you're gonna probably end up powerlevelling in the easiest dungeons ever designed its not worth the money. You heal, everybody else is a meat shield its not hard. All you need to do is lvl your heals and defensive skills and sort your genie out. When you hit lvl 100 you might actually have to god forbid kill things because nobody will help you, that's when you need to have attack skills levelled. You don't need to pvp, you will be in dungeons most of the time anyway (you'll get pwoned if you try as well).

Don't tell me I'm wrong, they ruined the gameplay not me. Besides if I could get a +3 refine pure build to 100 any moron can.

Ilwyn_ - Dreamweaver wrote: »

So, I've come back to the game after a year's hiatus, and I wanted to try some new characters. I've looked up all the guides on FACs, but I imagine they're all somewhat outdated. A lot has changed since 2009-2010, really.

I wanted to try making a FAC for my newest character, which, after a lot of reading, sounds somewhat difficult, but I think I can pull it off. A full DEX and MAG cleric will definitely be horrendously squishy, which I'm sure is the reason why I barely see them. Also, I don't want to get kicked from groups just by saying, "Oh, I'm a full DD cleric - my heals aren't good."

So is this a good thing to try at this point?

you amaze me with so much knowledge how did you level up so quickly to level 83

well ill tell ya this as a cleric i used to had 200vit and i dont remember the mag amount xD was a while ago but yeh my squads didnt know and i did as fine as a pure cleric just the diffrence.. i had to spam a bit more now im down to 90vit im also planning to go pure eventually .if yu have the coins to do hardcore refine just go AA

Some of the guides should be updated to this day. Full attack or full support terms are valid only at mid/low levels. At high levels you can have every skill and be full cleric.

Before people stayed below level 70 months and that level you can't have enough spirit if you don't die frequently or give exp to genie. (which wasn't possible before genies) So in past it was valid point to say support or attack. Now people are high level in no time with almost unlimited amount of spirit. All skills are available in no time so there is no point to limit yourself to support or attack.

Also cleric damage used to be competent to all old classes. Now casters can't compete with APS DDs and cleric's DPH hit can't compete with wiz and psys DPH.

nowadays 'full attack' or 'full support' just sounds like 'i aint capable or doing more than 1 job' or 'im that lazy'. Not gonna pass once past lv100 >.>

Trust me. Your tank knows how much vit the cleric has and how much magic they don't have. The only reason people don't point it out is because baby heals are better than no heals and they'd rather have a bad vit cleric than spend 20 more minutes and 150k in teles looking for a replacement so they give you a free ride. Clerics have the worst reputation as ragequiters of anyclass so people don't criticize even bad clerics.



And *Sighs* I seriously thought we were done with terms like "Full Attack Cleric" and "Full Support Cleric".

I leveled my cleric alongside a friend who was FAC while I was going FSC. He went something like 40 vit, I went pure magic. That's pretty standard for any build so it didn't really mean he was full attack or I was full support so we argued what the difference was. We came up with FACs attack more in a squad and they level their attack skills first.

But he did max alot of his heals, too. Because he needed them for pvp and for tanking mobs. I maxed alot of my attacks because it was easier to give a heal stack to my squad mates and then kill mobs rather than spam heals on people with full hp while mobs attacked them. So both of us leveled both our heals and attacks, him to be a better FAC and me to be a better FSC. The only non FAC skill is revive but he leveled it to find squads to get himself to a higher level.

Clerics, I believe, need less spirit than any other class. I had all my skills maxed by 74. I think he maxed them all by 77 or something. Its not a huge issue to level every skill.

He then restated to pure at 90+ so we have the same stat configuration. The stat configuration is basically the same. Stat the amount of vit you feel you need to cover your ***, the rest into magic for stronger heals/attacks. Only difference is how people play the game so why are people asking for builds?

So, other than the fact that he attacks and then heals as squadmates hp gets low and I give a heal stack first and then attack there really is no difference. He prefers a second cleric be brought along to heal so he can dd more but if that doesn't happen he fits the needs of the squad attacking when he can.


Btw, how come no one has said "want to attack and not heal, become a wizard/veno/psychic/archer/mystic" yet?

Elanxu - Dreamweaver wrote: »

Being an attack cleric does not mean you cannot heal. My idea of a full attack cleric is one with max level of plume shot and cyclone. Wield thunder, razor feathers, and Tempest do more damage but take much longer to channel. So in you alternate between cyclone and pShot, you will be able to do pretty much as much damage as you possibly can.

That being said, you can use the remaining spirit points on heals and buffs, and end up with a very well rounded cleric who can do anything.

by the time your 90 u have a ton of SP and coin left. How can you NOT level them unless your either poor, stupid, or stubborn. >.> this is back in 2008-2009, so 2011 should have even more excess SP and coins