Fist for BM"s Only?

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X__ENGEL__X - Sanctuary
X__ENGEL__X - Sanctuary Posts: 16 Arc User
edited September 2011 in General Discussion
For the time ive been on forums i've heard alot of this "Fists for BM's Only" thing going around. I'm completely confused b:surrender . Im wondering if its true or not...and if it IS true then the Classes that completely changed to Fists/5 aps Are screwed b:laugh
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  • BerserkBeast - Sanctuary
    BerserkBeast - Sanctuary Posts: 1,417 Arc User
    edited September 2011
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    Fists can be use by any class except EGs...

    And I don't foresee any changes anytime soon.
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  • Asterelle - Sanctuary_1381265973
    Asterelle - Sanctuary_1381265973 Posts: 7,881 Arc User
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    Apparently in the Chinese version they changed it so "Blademasters" can only use bladed weapons. This means no bows, fists, dual hammers, or pole hammers. They can still use claws though since those have blades.

    Other classes remain untouched.
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  • Hexalot - Dreamweaver
    Hexalot - Dreamweaver Posts: 871 Arc User
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    Asterelle - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Apparently in the Chinese version they changed it so "Blademasters" can only use bladed weapons. This means no bows, fists, dual hammers, or pole hammers. They can still use claws though since those have blades.

    Other classes remain untouched.

    Strange. Was this a recent change ?

    Because I could have sworn that in the very recent PWIC tournament, the Chinese BMs were using an axes/pole axes.
  • Telarith - Sanctuary
    Telarith - Sanctuary Posts: 1,417 Arc User
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    Hexalot - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    Strange. Was this a recent change ?

    Because I could have sworn that in the very recent PWIC tournament, the Chinese BMs were using an axes/pole axes.

    Go in game, hit R, look at the tree branches of skills that require polearms/spears, hammers/axes. Realize it was a joke. Breathe a sigh of relief.
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  • Okeano - Harshlands
    Okeano - Harshlands Posts: 4,943 Arc User
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    Hexalot - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    Strange. Was this a recent change ?

    Because I could have sworn that in the very recent PWIC tournament, the Chinese BMs were using an axes/pole axes.

    *face palm*
  • Hexalot - Dreamweaver
    Hexalot - Dreamweaver Posts: 871 Arc User
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    Telarith - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Go in game, hit R, look at the tree branches of skills that require polearms/spears, hammers/axes. Realize it was a joke. Breathe a sigh of relief.

    Well I get that it was a joke now but pray tell me how I was going to go in game, hit R, and look at the Chinese version BM's skills ? b:laugh
  • Adromada - Raging Tide
    Adromada - Raging Tide Posts: 141 Arc User
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    Asterelle - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Apparently in the Chinese version they changed it so "Blademasters" can only use bladed weapons. This means no bows, fists, dual hammers, or pole hammers. They can still use claws though since those have blades.

    Other classes remain untouched.

    b:laughb:chuckle id make a 10% exception to the fact that the chinese version is somewhat different to America's version but i dont think they would have the exact same build as a seeker as that would be 2 of the exact same class just different race and name.
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  • Telarith - Sanctuary
    Telarith - Sanctuary Posts: 1,417 Arc User
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    Hexalot - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    Well I get that it was a joke now but pray tell me how I was going to go in game, hit R, and look at the Chinese version BM's skills ? b:laugh

    It was more to look at the skills, and see the two whole branches of skills you could not use, since they require weapons that supposedly we wouldn't be allowed to use anymore. Or the fact that BMs are the only class with poleblade mastery. I guess to be really defensive, could try to say that the weapons required for the skills are changed to a different weapon. But can't you see how it's so blatantly obviously not true that any justification for actually having believed seems realy, really weak now?
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  • Ken_ - Heavens Tear
    Ken_ - Heavens Tear Posts: 34 Arc User
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    Asterelle - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Apparently in the Chinese version they changed it so "Blademasters" can only use bladed weapons. This means no bows, fists, dual hammers, or pole hammers. They can still use claws though since those have blades.

    Other classes remain untouched.

    lol? then wat is the point of having fists in the game at all? BMs are the only class that has a entire tree dedicated to fist/claws. same thing with poles. if they want to limit BMs to using only the axe/sword tree then why even have the other trees for BM?
  • Sarrafeline - Sanctuary
    Sarrafeline - Sanctuary Posts: 4,661 Arc User
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    Ken_ - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    lol? then wat is the point of having fists in the game at all? BMs are the only class that has a entire tree dedicated to fist/claws. same thing with poles. if they want to limit BMs to using only the axe/sword tree then why even have the other trees for BM?

    They're gonna make a fisticuffs class that can only use fists, and a pole dancer class, that dan... Hum... Spoiling too much. b:shutup
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  • Zarni - Dreamweaver
    Zarni - Dreamweaver Posts: 258 Arc User
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    Asterelle - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Apparently in the Chinese version they changed it so "Blademasters" can only use bladed weapons. This means no bows, fists, dual hammers, or pole hammers. They can still use claws though since those have blades.

    Other classes remain untouched.

    People keep saying this isn't true and citing thing with BLADES, like poleBLADES and pole/dual axes (which have blades) as their examples. None of the BM skill trees would be unusable, you just couldn't be a HammerMaster or FistMaster.

    What I wonder, however, is what will happen to this weapon:

    http://www.pwdatabase.com/pwi/items/12950

    (I know, probably no one has it anyway, but doesn't that sorta say BMs should be able to use fists; even more than the skill names axe/HAMMER mastery and FIST mastery, which are pretty simple to change.)

    Anyway, Asterelle is known for having strangely accurate information and not so much for trolling, so I am mildly interested in this topic.
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  • SashaGray - Heavens Tear
    SashaGray - Heavens Tear Posts: 3,765 Arc User
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    astarelle dont go troll on us b:sad
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  • Quilue - Sanctuary
    Quilue - Sanctuary Posts: 5,787 Arc User
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    Zarni - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    People keep saying this isn't true and citing thing with BLADES, like poleBLADES and pole/dual axes (which have blades) as their examples. None of the BM skill trees would be unusable, you just couldn't be a HammerMaster or FistMaster.

    What I wonder, however, is what will happen to this weapon:

    http://www.pwdatabase.com/pwi/items/12950

    (I know, probably no one has it anyway, but doesn't that sorta say BMs should be able to use fists; even more than the skill names axe/HAMMER mastery and FIST mastery, which are pretty simple to change.)

    Anyway, Asterelle is known for having strangely accurate information and not so much for trolling, so I am mildly interested in this topic.

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  • Asterelle - Sanctuary_1381265973
    Asterelle - Sanctuary_1381265973 Posts: 7,881 Arc User
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    Zarni - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    Anyway, Asterelle is known for having strangely accurate information and not so much for trolling, so I am mildly interested in this topic.

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  • Telarith - Sanctuary
    Telarith - Sanctuary Posts: 1,417 Arc User
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    Asterelle - Sanctuary wrote: »
    My custom forum title requires occasional maintenance ;o

    Might I suggest the archer forum undertakes a project to derive a mathematical equation comparing the the use of hypers, and gullibility of the player base?
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    Asterelle - Sanctuary wrote: »
    My custom forum title requires occasional maintenance ;o

    As does mine.

    Bad Asterelle... Bad.

    Trolling isn't nice...

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  • Massad - Harshlands
    Massad - Harshlands Posts: 360 Arc User
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    Wait so I am confused about the initial question and the convo pertaining to that question....



    I will admit as a sin I am getting curious about the supposed fist build sins claiming to do more dmg than me with daggers.... I am gonna test this theory and prove it once and for all.... complete with ss....


    anyone got a set of decides I could borrow/have ( i do believe they become bound) at 100b:chuckle
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  • Broederjr - Lost City
    Broederjr - Lost City Posts: 234 Arc User
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    Massad - Harshlands wrote: »
    Wait so I am confused about the initial question and the convo pertaining to that question....



    I will admit as a sin I am getting curious about the supposed fist build sins claiming to do more dmg than me with daggers.... I am gonna test this theory and prove it once and for all.... complete with ss....


    anyone got a set of decides I could borrow/have ( i do believe they become bound) at 100b:chuckle

    in my experience claws are better from 90-100 cuz you can spark more and faster but after 100 daggers are alot better i know i was the first claw/heavy sin on lost city

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