Seekers in TW, how is it thus far?

Deceptistar - Sanctuary
Deceptistar - Sanctuary Posts: 10,454 Arc User
edited October 2011 in Seeker
I saw another thread on this from over a month back but because it was going to be 1) a necro and 2)thread was sparsely answered, i decided to make this current one.

Atm i am wondering if seeker is worth it in TW. I havnt had much of a chance to play seeker in TW cause my cleric and barb are more needed. The off chance that i do, pple wipe the floor with my R8+2-3 seeker b:chuckle Its my lack of seeker play in tw, crappy gear, and stronger opponents but yeah.

I dont really want to nirvana my seeker or waste on higher refines cause well its just ..kinda wasteful, considering i have all the mats for a full R9+JoSD waiting for me, and im currently saving for R9 refines. While had my mind set on seeker R9 full JoSD.... Atm EGR9 is not out yet so we can somewhat speculate their strength but not 100%. On the other hand, classes like the Psy and Sin R9, we all know how they turn out to be with R9, especially Psy with full JoSD. Alot of pple have been saying maybe R9 is not worth it for seeker.

Id like to know the opinions of the pple who have pretty much gotten their TT99/nirvana combo or some kinda high refine (either acc stash or farm) regarding seeker performance in their TW.
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  • ReMakaBo - Archosaur
    ReMakaBo - Archosaur Posts: 845 Arc User
    edited September 2011
    meh, im in same boat r9 full set in bank, won't invest anything in the current gears I have, as I know as soon as I do that" soon" will get here...and it'll be released. NPCing gear i just refined to 10 and put vit shards in or somthing isn't somthing I wanna have to do.

    But at the start, when I was in faction with 2-3 r9s maybe, and fighting other factions with only like 2-3 in it. so mostly equivelent geared, Was awesome gameplay. I can see the seeker being a maker or a breaker in TWs, once the gears are released.
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  • Deceptistar - Sanctuary
    Deceptistar - Sanctuary Posts: 10,454 Arc User
    edited September 2011
    i guess their not actually worthwhile atm. :S
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  • Catanna - Dreamweaver
    Catanna - Dreamweaver Posts: 19 Arc User
    edited September 2011
    I went full nirvy 2nd stage on my seeker. Decent hp, almost 13k hp unbuffed. R8 weapon +10. I tw on a regular basis on my seeker and LOVE IT! Apart from the survival aspects, I kill (one shot) clerics, archers and venos...oh my! I don't vortex as much as I would like in TW, it's difficult when you have a whole squad gunning for you. We are not Cata pullers, sage barbs can have that job...but can a full rank 9 seeker pull a cata? I can see it happening. The fact that seekers are built to survive and hit hard a rank 9 seeker will be pretty sick and actually pretty scary in TW. My main is an archer, while tab killing is fun once in awhile, seekers are far more fun in TW. Rank 9 your seekers if you really enjoy them and take them for a spin in a tw and you will see :D I think it's totally worth it. Because I nivyed my stuff, sharded and refined I won't go full rank9, but I do intend on getting the chest and weapon and see double the kills in my (hopefully near) future! Anyways...hope this long draged out post helped u.
  • Yuniryu - Raging Tide
    Yuniryu - Raging Tide Posts: 516 Arc User
    edited September 2011
    I saw another thread on this from over a month back but because it was going to be 1) a necro and 2)thread was sparsely answered, i decided to make this current one.

    Atm i am wondering if seeker is worth it in TW. I havnt had much of a chance to play seeker in TW cause my cleric and barb are more needed. The off chance that i do, pple wipe the floor with my R8+2-3 seeker b:chuckle Its my lack of seeker play in tw, crappy gear, and stronger opponents but yeah.

    I dont really want to nirvana my seeker or waste on higher refines cause well its just ..kinda wasteful, considering i have all the mats for a full R9+JoSD waiting for me, and im currently saving for R9 refines. While had my mind set on seeker R9 full JoSD.... Atm EGR9 is not out yet so we can somewhat speculate their strength but not 100%. On the other hand, classes like the Psy and Sin R9, we all know how they turn out to be with R9, especially Psy with full JoSD. Alot of pple have been saying maybe R9 is not worth it for seeker.

    Id like to know the opinions of the pple who have pretty much gotten their TT99/nirvana combo or some kinda high refine (either acc stash or farm) regarding seeker performance in their TW.

    JoSD?b:puzzled. Is that defence level stones?. If i am going to be full str what is better, full JoSD or Vit stones.
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  • Dedz - Raging Tide
    Dedz - Raging Tide Posts: 192 Arc User
    edited September 2011
    If you're seeker is going to have more than 15k hp, full JoSD is best. If not, mix JosD and Vit stones for best survivability. Use this tool made by Asterelle. http://aster.ohmydays.net/pw/socketcalculator.html

    For the OP:
    The seeker is an alt of mine and belongs to a small faction. I use the Nirvana Phoenix Frenzy dual swords +11 (So much better than rank 8) for TW. Here is my build: http://pwcalc.com/469bf38e98f06b3e Sorry about my gear being inconsistent. Most of my gears are hand me downs from the classes I don't play with anymore.

    Since my opponents in TW are equally geared as I am, I enjoy TW. One shotting LA and AA class,sometimes unbuffed BMs is a possibility with Gemini Slash. Gemini Slash and heartseeker are the two skills you'll use often in TW. Vortex, not as much. Against, rank9 however, seekers are a 1-3 shot.

    However, I don't TW with it as often since I have to TW with my main that belongs to a bigger faction so I am still lacking with TW experience for the seeker.

    I see seekers being a huge threat in TW once they get their rank 9.
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  • Yuniryu - Raging Tide
    Yuniryu - Raging Tide Posts: 516 Arc User
    edited September 2011
    If you're seeker is going to have more than 15k hp, full JoSD is best. If not, mix JosD and Vit stones for best survivability. Use this tool made by Asterelle. http://aster.ohmydays.net/pw/socketcalculator.html

    For the OP:
    The seeker is an alt of mine and belongs to a small faction. I use the Nirvana Phoenix Frenzy dual swords +11 (So much better than rank 8) for TW. Here is my build: http://pwcalc.com/469bf38e98f06b3e Sorry about my gear being inconsistent. Most of my gears are hand me downs from the classes I don't play with anymore.

    Since my opponents in TW are equally geared as I am, I enjoy TW. One shotting LA and AA class,sometimes unbuffed BMs is a possibility with Gemini Slash. Gemini Slash and heartseeker are the two skills you'll use often in TW. Vortex, not as much. Against, rank9 however, seekers are a 1-3 shot.

    However, I don't TW with it as often since I have to TW with my main that belongs to a bigger faction so I am still lacking with TW experience for the seeker.

    I see seekers being a huge threat in TW once they get their rank 9.

    Cool thanks. I guess since i am not going for rank 9 i should mix xd up the JosD and vit stones. :3

    If i ever get a piece of gear one day. >.> Merching going to take months lol.
    :p Well dont have time to make an farming alt, probably takes as long as merch to get to the stage i want.
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  • Dedz - Raging Tide
    Dedz - Raging Tide Posts: 192 Arc User
    edited September 2011
    @yuniryu:

    You can farm and merch at the same time to make things go a little faster if you have the time :D

    Also, I just read your sig and found out that you are a guy. I am devastated.
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  • Yuniryu - Raging Tide
    Yuniryu - Raging Tide Posts: 516 Arc User
    edited September 2011
    @yuniryu:

    You can farm and merch at the same time to make things go a little faster if you have the time :D

    Also, I just read your sig and found out that you are a guy. I am devastated.

    XD. Yeah everyone gets disappointed when they find outb:shocked. As for the merch and farm yup sounds like a good idea. Now all that is left is to make a level 70 alt so i can open 72 mirages a day.b:coolb:cool
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  • Neodaystar - Sanctuary
    Neodaystar - Sanctuary Posts: 1,020 Arc User
    edited October 2011
    If you're seeker is going to have more than 15k hp, full JoSD is best. If not, mix JosD and Vit stones for best survivability. Use this tool made by Asterelle. http://aster.ohmydays.net/pw/socketcalculator.html

    For the OP:
    The seeker is an alt of mine and belongs to a small faction. I use the Nirvana Phoenix Frenzy dual swords +11 (So much better than rank 8) for TW. Here is my build: http://pwcalc.com/469bf38e98f06b3e Sorry about my gear being inconsistent. Most of my gears are hand me downs from the classes I don't play with anymore.

    Since my opponents in TW are equally geared as I am, I enjoy TW. One shotting LA and AA class,sometimes unbuffed BMs is a possibility with Gemini Slash. Gemini Slash and heartseeker are the two skills you'll use often in TW. Vortex, not as much. Against, rank9 however, seekers are a 1-3 shot.

    However, I don't TW with it as often since I have to TW with my main that belongs to a bigger faction so I am still lacking with TW experience for the seeker.

    I see seekers being a huge threat in TW once they get their rank 9.


    - at dedz: I agree fully with your comments.

    - at other posts: Although a seeker's defense and hp can't be on par with barbs with similar gear, I think they have the 2nd most potential to tank big hits. R9 archers with 12+ bows do around 2-3 k damage on my temporary moderately geared seeker -partial tt99 and nirvana gears with around 7+ refines until r9 comes out. They only have a few really good skills to use in TW, and thankfully they are range skills. Because of the lack of spam-able decent high damage skills, they have to resort to guerrilla tactics in TW by pulling off their attacks/attack combos and retreat until those skills and combos can be used again. If they stand and fight using lesser damaging skills, they won't be able to continuously kill people effectively and move from target to target like archers and wizs do. They are very likely to die from a gank as a result of not using guerrilla tactics.

    Yes, it is too bad that vortex is not always usable in TW. It can only be used effectively if there are squad mates to back you up by stunning, hf-ing and immobilizing your targets. Their best support skill is perhaps Sage void step with a 38 meter range. I don't think any other class has a range as much as 38m. When your base is under attack with curtains of barrages on your crystal, a seeker is the best 'sacrificial char' to turn the tides of the battle. Use, your IG combo, then void step 38m through a death field of aoes to a barraging archer to stun them, bramble rage to interrupt all other aoes in range, and set up vortex to divert attention and take out as many as you can when your IG is still up - do all this in a matter of seconds. Void step and along with the skill blade affinity to help surprise your targets quickly with 1-shot nukes out from no where is almost like an OP sin in 1 vs 1 pvp.

    I've been looking forward to getting r9 for my seeker and I think it really depends on your play style, and not a matter of if seeker is a decent char to use in tw. I know a lot of people tend to find guerrilla tactics a bit uninterested and seemingly makes the seeker look like a weak class, but I don't think so.
  • Hexalot - Dreamweaver
    Hexalot - Dreamweaver Posts: 871 Arc User
    edited October 2011
    The seeker is an alt of mine and belongs to a small faction. I use the Nirvana Phoenix Frenzy dual swords +11 (So much better than rank 8) for TW.

    The G13 dual swords are indeed better than Rank 8 weapon at present (though only slightly better in my humble opinion). But future Seekers would still be wise to go for the R8 blade though because with the soon to be implemented ability to recast and get add-ons like, GoF, attack levels etc... Rank 8 may well end up being faaar superior to your G13 swords.
  • Yuniryu - Raging Tide
    Yuniryu - Raging Tide Posts: 516 Arc User
    edited October 2011
    The G13 dual swords are indeed better than Rank 8 weapon at present (though only slightly better in my humble opinion). But future Seekers would still be wise to go for the R8 blade though because with the soon to be implemented ability to recast and get add-ons like, GoF, attack levels etc... Rank 8 may well end up being faaar superior to your G13 swords.

    Hmm lets wait and see.b:chuckle
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  • Dedz - Raging Tide
    Dedz - Raging Tide Posts: 192 Arc User
    edited October 2011
    The G13 dual swords are indeed better than Rank 8 weapon at present (though only slightly better in my humble opinion). But future Seekers would still be wise to go for the R8 blade though because with the soon to be implemented ability to recast and get add-ons like, GoF, attack levels etc... Rank 8 may well end up being faaar superior to your G13 swords.

    Please look at the date when I made that post. I hope you can agree with me that during that time, the rank 8 and rank 9 recast issue was pretty new. (Also, I was not online in the forums during that period frequently.)

    I am also sorry if I offended your rank 8 sword calling them inferior to the Nirvana dual swords. However, I still believe that Nirvy G13 dual swords is way better than the PRESENT rank8 swords. The Nirvana dual swords blends perfectly with the Duelist Glee stance in one on one PK and it hits harder in both PK and TW.

    I have come up with a way to keep my enemies from having a chance to attack me in 1 on 1 PK. (Almost like a seal, stun lock) However, I am keeping these combos to myself until rank 9 comes out.
    Hint: Duelist Glee and Quid Pro Quo are really powerful skills and they help a lot when combined with other skills.) Since you stated that the nirvy swords is slightly better, I must assume that you do not know this 'hidden' combo/glitch (not exactly a glitch, just an abuse of quid pro quo) that seekers have to execute this seal/stun lock.

    Anyway, I have updated myself about the rank 8 recast. I am happy that our rank8 swords will have the ability to have a 11.1% chance to have GoF and a 22.2% chance to have an increase in (10-25) attack levels. http://pwi-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=1191001

    With this, Rank 8 swords will definitely be more superior to G13 dual swords. However, we will still have to wait. I'm just hoping that prices won't be ridiculous.
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  • SoulPlay - Heavens Tear
    SoulPlay - Heavens Tear Posts: 194 Arc User
    edited October 2011
    the only thing i dont think anyone has covered is that on a faction attacking ur base u can

    Edged blur > blade affinity > vortex - in 3 seconds i call it the defence eater =]

    nothing will survive ....... to a point lol
  • XXZeonXx - Harshlands
    XXZeonXx - Harshlands Posts: 372 Arc User
    edited October 2011
    Please look at the date when I made that post. I hope you can agree with me that during that time, the rank 8 and rank 9 recast issue was pretty new. (Also, I was not online in the forums during that period frequently.)

    I am also sorry if I offended your rank 8 sword calling them inferior to the Nirvana dual swords. However, I still believe that Nirvy G13 dual swords is way better than the PRESENT rank8 swords. The Nirvana dual swords blends perfectly with the Duelist Glee stance in one on one PK and it hits harder in both PK and TW.

    I have come up with a way to keep my enemies from having a chance to attack me in 1 on 1 PK. (Almost like a seal, stun lock) However, I am keeping these combos to myself until rank 9 comes out.
    Hint: Duelist Glee and Quid Pro Quo are really powerful skills and they help a lot when combined with other skills.) Since you stated that the nirvy swords is slightly better, I must assume that you do not know this 'hidden' combo/glitch (not exactly a glitch, just an abuse of quid pro quo) that seekers have to execute this seal/stun lock.

    Anyway, I have updated myself about the rank 8 recast. I am happy that our rank8 swords will have the ability to have a 11.1% chance to have GoF and a 22.2% chance to have an increase in (10-25) attack levels. http://pwi-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=1191001

    With this, Rank 8 swords will definitely be more superior to G13 dual swords. However, we will still have to wait. I'm just hoping that prices won't be ridiculous.

    Lol, expelling QPQ.
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  • Dedz - Raging Tide
    Dedz - Raging Tide Posts: 192 Arc User
    edited October 2011
    Lol, expelling QPQ.

    lmao fail. anyone who plays a cleric/seeker should know that by now. ijs
    but thanks for pointing out something basic.
    Who knows? maybe some could still be unaware of this right? /faceplam
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  • ItsAWolf - Archosaur
    ItsAWolf - Archosaur Posts: 464 Arc User
    edited October 2011
    lmao fail. anyone who plays a cleric/seeker should know that by now. ijs
    but thanks for pointing out something basic.
    Who knows? maybe some could still be unaware of this right? /faceplam

    I was unaware of that, then again I don't do any PvP. Still like reading about it though b:chuckle
  • CrispyChips - Archosaur
    CrispyChips - Archosaur Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited October 2011
    - at dedz: I agree fully with your comments.

    - at other posts: Although a seeker's defense and hp can't be on par with barbs with similar gear, I think they have the 2nd most potential to tank big hits. R9 archers with 12+ bows do around 2-3 k damage on my temporary moderately geared seeker -partial tt99 and nirvana gears with around 7+ refines until r9 comes out. They only have a few really good skills to use in TW, and thankfully they are range skills. Because of the lack of spam-able decent high damage skills, they have to resort to guerrilla tactics in TW by pulling off their attacks/attack combos and retreat until those skills and combos can be used again. If they stand and fight using lesser damaging skills, they won't be able to continuously kill people effectively and move from target to target like archers and wizs do. They are very likely to die from a gank as a result of not using guerrilla tactics.

    Yes, it is too bad that vortex is not always usable in TW. It can only be used effectively if there are squad mates to back you up by stunning, hf-ing and immobilizing your targets. Their best support skill is perhaps Sage void step with a 38 meter range. I don't think any other class has a range as much as 38m. When your base is under attack with curtains of barrages on your crystal, a seeker is the best 'sacrificial char' to turn the tides of the battle. Use, your IG combo, then void step 38m through a death field of aoes to a barraging archer to stun them, bramble rage to interrupt all other aoes in range, and set up vortex to divert attention and take out as many as you can when your IG is still up - do all this in a matter of seconds. Void step and along with the skill blade affinity to help surprise your targets quickly with 1-shot nukes out from no where is almost like an OP sin in 1 vs 1 pvp.

    I've been looking forward to getting r9 for my seeker and I think it really depends on your play style, and not a matter of if seeker is a decent char to use in tw. I know a lot of people tend to find guerrilla tactics a bit uninterested and seemingly makes the seeker look like a weak class, but I don't think so.


    Hmmmm, will definatly try that outb:victory

    I am at the moment an R8 Seeker and still struggling but ig E.G sets will come out (R9),
    i will hit that sh*t up.

    Thnx for the big help bro :)
  • Dedz - Raging Tide
    Dedz - Raging Tide Posts: 192 Arc User
    edited October 2011
    I was unaware of that, then again I don't do any PvP. Still like reading about it though b:chuckle

    Oh lol. I should have mentioned "any cleric/seeker who PVPs should know that by now."

    Well anyway, have fun experimenting with QPQ. There's so many more combos with QPQ than that. You can mix them up with pots, skills, mob/boss debuffs, etc.

    QPQ is truly an OP skill if used wisely. Another basic function of QPQ that seekers (who PVP should know) is that it can be used to stop your opponents from casting their ultis. You just need to know skill animations and debuff icons by heart.

    I also believe that if you plan to PVP with your seeker, the level 100 skills are a MUST. Along with QPQ and Edged Blurr, they are our ace in the hole.
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  • XXZeonXx - Harshlands
    XXZeonXx - Harshlands Posts: 372 Arc User
    edited October 2011
    Oh lol. I should have mentioned "any cleric/seeker who PVPs should know that by now."

    Well anyway, have fun experimenting with QPQ. There's so many more combos with QPQ than that. You can mix them up with pots, skills, mob/boss debuffs, etc.

    QPQ is truly an OP skill if used wisely. Another basic function of QPQ that seekers (who PVP should know) is that it can be used to stop your opponents from casting their ultis. You just need to know skill animations and debuff icons by heart.

    I also believe that if you plan to PVP with your seeker, the level 100 skills are a MUST. Along with QPQ and Edged Blurr, they are our ace in the hole.

    Actually, much to my surprise, there are a lot of Seekers on my server who have no idea how to do that yet, even though it's been "common" knowledge for quite a while. I guess it just takes time for things to spread.
    And I don't see how my post was a fail; I never stated that it was anything difficult to do, or that it was the only possible use of QPQ in PvP. Although expelling QPQ is somewhat basic, you can make it useful by combining it with some of our other control skills in order to execute a long stun lock. And outside of expelling QPQ, there are some other genie skills that it can be combined with as well, along with even a use for an alternate weapon that will get some Seekers into a Nirvana squad if they know it. The most basic uses of QPQ in PvP would be using them to transfer back skill-related debuffs, most commonly being the tackling slash/demon spark that a lot of Sins do, Wizard debuffs, cleric debuffs, Nix bleed, Rib Strike if any Sin is dumb enough to use it on you, etc.
    Compared the those methods, expelling QPQ/the fortify magic defense debuff/transferring the curse debuff from one of the TT90 swords in order to get the "DG" effect on your opponent are more advanced, whereas using it for boss/mob debuffs (Pole/Nob/Wyvern/General Feng/TT HP debuff/Cube HP debuff/etc.) are nearly as basic, but equally useful in the right situations.
    I rarely use apoth pots, so I wouldn't know about the possibilities with those, but I'm sure there's something even there that can be done with those, if any of them have effects that rely on balance between a negative and a positive.
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  • Hexalot - Dreamweaver
    Hexalot - Dreamweaver Posts: 871 Arc User
    edited October 2011
    There are nearly endless opportunities for QPQ to own in PVP but from a pure damage standpoint, I think the most effective has got to be QPQ + genie skill frenzy.

    Frenzy raises your attack levels by 20 for 8 seconds while simultaneously reducing your defense by 100% of gear value. Transferring the defense reduction to your opponent while simultaneously keeping the 20 attack levels should = one-shot to most opponents. b:laugh

    It's also because of QPQ that I think the Rank 9 weapon would so totally own in the hands of a Seeker (who knows what he is doing).

    GoF has a proc rate of 80% (unlike sacrificial strike on TT90 sword) making it I believe the most reliable weapon add-on effect in all PWI.

    So basically a Seeker's opponent could look forward to the HP debuff being transferred to them plus whatever genie debuffs the Seeker may have stacked before hand and then being hit with double damage from the weapon itself. You know just thinking about it... I am so going to roll a Seeker. b:pleased
  • XXZeonXx - Harshlands
    XXZeonXx - Harshlands Posts: 372 Arc User
    edited October 2011
    I'm not talking about the TT90 gold sword that has Sacrificial Strike. There's a TT90 green sword that has a chance to increase your attack power and double the damage you recieve, or something like that. If that proc activates you can QPQ the "DG" effect that doubles the damage. And unfortunately, I don't think you can do it with Frenzy because of the fact that both the buff and the debuff are compounded and recognized as one buff by the game.
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  • Dedz - Raging Tide
    Dedz - Raging Tide Posts: 192 Arc User
    edited October 2011
    @Hexalot: Zeon is correct. You cant QPQ frenzy. :( But yeah, once EG rank9 comes out, I will ditch my current main too and switch to seeker.

    @Zeon: I apologize for calling your post fail. For me, your post was like stating an obvious fact since I honestly thought everyone knew about expelling QPQ. But I clearly have underestimated the knowledge of the seeker population. Well thanks anyway for pointing it out.
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  • Hexalot - Dreamweaver
    Hexalot - Dreamweaver Posts: 871 Arc User
    edited October 2011
    I'm not talking about the TT90 gold sword that has Sacrificial Strike. There's a TT90 green sword that has a chance to increase your attack power and double the damage you recieve, or something like that. If that proc activates you can QPQ the "DG" effect that doubles the damage. And unfortunately, I don't think you can do it with Frenzy because of the fact that both the buff and the debuff are compounded and recognized as one buff by the game.

    You're talking about the TT99 Green: Mirage Scimitar

    I don't know how often the Berserk add-on procs but tossing the "double damage received" debuff back over to your opponent would be like having your own portable HF. :)

    @Hexalot: Zeon is correct. You cant QPQ frenzy. :(

    b:cry
  • XXZeonXx - Harshlands
    XXZeonXx - Harshlands Posts: 372 Arc User
    edited October 2011
    @Zeon: I apologize for calling your post fail. For me, your post was like stating an obvious fact since I honestly thought everyone knew about expelling QPQ. But I clearly have underestimated the knowledge of the seeker population. Well thanks anyway for pointing it out.
    No problem, and you're welcome.
    You're talking about the TT99 Green: Mirage Scimitar

    I don't know how often the Berserk add-on procs but tossing the "double damage received" debuff back over to your opponent would be like having your own portable HF. :)
    Thank you for the correction; that's the sword I meant. And it is somewhat like that, although less reliable. Nevertheless, as I stated previously, I've seen a Seeker get into a Nirvana squad just by advertising that he could HF/DG via that method.
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  • $oul_Reaver - Archosaur
    $oul_Reaver - Archosaur Posts: 47 Arc User
    edited October 2011
    Seekers in tw have a good priorityAlthough classes which do heavy dds like wizards, in tw seekers are ment to help and support bms .

    EG stuns imobalizes.

    Plus seekers are quiet tough and tricky to knock down before they knock u down.

    edged blur can be combined with different skills to attack symotainously.Plus vortex which helps.

    but anyway the main job 4 seekers in tw is to help gms and dish out thier aoesb:byeb:victoryb:laughb:laugh
  • Neodaystar - Sanctuary
    Neodaystar - Sanctuary Posts: 1,020 Arc User
    edited October 2011
    Seekers in tw have a good priorityAlthough classes which do heavy dds like wizards, in tw seekers are ment to help and support bms .

    EG stuns imobalizes.

    Plus seekers are quiet tough and tricky to knock down before they knock u down.

    edged blur can be combined with different skills to attack symotainously.Plus vortex which helps.

    but anyway the main job 4 seekers in tw is to help gms and dish out thier aoesb:byeb:victoryb:laughb:laugh

    I see it as the other way around. Bms are meant to help and support seekers and all other DD classes too, because seekers are mainly a DD class. If a bm uses hf to amp a cluster of targets and aoe stun them, a seeker can easily take out all those who are immobilized by stun and debuffed with hf nearby with vortex and edge blur combo for a melee assault, or with a range assault using Ion Spike and Gemini Slash combo (with Soulsever Minuet buff).

    Seeker sword debuffs (not skill debuffs) works in 3 steps
    1) pick one sword buff to use
    2) keep attacking a target till that buff is placed on it because of the % chance gamble
    3) use the correct attack to activate the debuff condition

    Because of the tremendous effort and luck to debuff players in tw, they make poor support when aoe stuns or amps are needed to lock down a group of enemies. Most of the time, you won't be able to activate the debuff condition if the target is not a barb or is a squishy toon who can get ganked and killed before you can do it.
  • Yuniryu - Raging Tide
    Yuniryu - Raging Tide Posts: 516 Arc User
    edited October 2011
    No problem, and you're welcome.

    Thank you for the correction; that's the sword I meant. And it is somewhat like that, although less reliable. Nevertheless, as I stated previously, I've seen a Seeker get into a Nirvana squad just by advertising that he could HF/DG via that method.

    Thanks :3. I should have that sword soon ^_^. Currently got :D tt90.b:laugh
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