Fist and axe build and some vit in the buils possible?

Deaths_Devil - Raging Tide
Deaths_Devil - Raging Tide Posts: 70 Arc User
edited September 2011 in Blademaster
all i hear is 3 str 2dex a lvl bit is it possible that i an add vit also? cuz i love to have Beastly hp cuz vit+ sharded is beastly high hp so i wanna do that can any1 tell me if thats possible? and i am not rich so no tomes or something
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  • Sakubatou - Sanctuary
    Sakubatou - Sanctuary Posts: 4,001 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    3 strength a level is required for axes
    2.5 strength/lvl is required just for HA
    2 dex/lvl is required for fists.

    If you want to use axe and fists for your current level you can't add vitality (3+2=5 stat points per level...) without making it up somewhere else in your gear. The easiest place is a tome because its reliable and doesn't change.

    You also can just chose to not use current level weapons. Add 5 vit and use axes 5 levels later. You are lvl 76, which means you should be using calamity axes till level 90 ish. You can steal a bit of strength from there when you need to use lvl 90+ axes just get it from +str gear.

    Edit: btw, a little concerned you consider having a 1.3mil tome "being rich". You have some surprises in store for you. Time to grind.
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  • Deaths_Devil - Raging Tide
    Deaths_Devil - Raging Tide Posts: 70 Arc User
    edited September 2011
    Edit: btw, a little concerned you consider having a 1.3mil tome "being rich". You have some surprises in store for you. Time to grind.[/QUOTE]

    I don't know the fastest way to get money and/orr where to grind can you tell me that?
  • PreDevil - Sanctuary
    PreDevil - Sanctuary Posts: 88 Arc User
    edited September 2011
    Edit: btw, a little concerned you consider having a 1.3mil tome "being rich". You have some surprises in store for you. Time to grind.

    I don't know the fastest way to get money and/orr where to grind can you tell me that?[/QUOTE]

    ok the fastest way to get money would be to cash shop, thats a no brainer, 2nd selling dragons, but i don't recommend that (since is banable), 3rd is merching, 4th farming tt and niv

    for our build all our hp comes from our gear b:surrender
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  • Herpinuz - Heavens Tear
    Herpinuz - Heavens Tear Posts: 5 Arc User
    edited September 2011
    someone told me, best build is every 2 lvls (10 points) spend to 5 str 4 dex 1 vit. is it right to build like this way?b:puzzled
  • Sakubatou - Sanctuary
    Sakubatou - Sanctuary Posts: 4,001 Arc User
    edited September 2011
    someone told me, best build is every 2 lvls (10 points) spend to 5 str 4 dex 1 vit. is it right to build like this way?b:puzzled

    That'd be pretty decent. You might have to wiggle gear around and make sure you always have some + strength gear (cape, tome, etc.) otherwise you'd be falling short of the 6 strength every level to use axes. Read my above post.
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  • RosangeIa - Heavens Tear
    RosangeIa - Heavens Tear Posts: 240 Arc User
    edited September 2011
    I'm looking into making a fist/axe BM by end game, is it possible to cap vit somewhere around 30 pts, and after build with the 3str 2dex each level? Maybe having to reset points later in the game? I have a pretty simple tome at the moment on my seeker I could give to my BM (it's something like +4str +3vit). Maybe something in the 4mil range tome would be better (level 3 tome I think).

    I'm a complete nub when it comes to BM stat points at the moment so, I'm just curious. Is it better to use the minimal amount of dex required for fists or should there be more for better crit etc?
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  • Aeyisha - Lost City
    Aeyisha - Lost City Posts: 475 Arc User
    edited September 2011
    I'm looking into making a fist/axe BM by end game, is it possible to cap vit somewhere around 30 pts, and after build with the 3str 2dex each level? Maybe having to reset points later in the game? I have a pretty simple tome at the moment on my seeker I could give to my BM (it's something like +4str +3vit). Maybe something in the 4mil range tome would be better (level 3 tome I think).

    I'm a complete nub when it comes to BM stat points at the moment so, I'm just curious. Is it better to use the minimal amount of dex required for fists or should there be more for better crit etc?

    Most people aim for 200 dex since you need 198 for TT 100 fists and 2 points will give you 1% more crit.
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  • Suaver - Raging Tide
    Suaver - Raging Tide Posts: 118 Arc User
    edited September 2011
    I highly suggest not going the axe/fist build from level 1.... Go axe/vit build until 80ish and then restat.

    I was always behind a few levels on being able to equip current level axes or weapons, because I kept enough vit in my build that I had a higher survivability rate as a noob wandering the map. At 80, I restated so that every 10 levels (80, 90, 100...), I could equip current level axes (TT80 at 80), but I was behind on the fists (TT70 at 80) and could start skilling in fists. This allowed me to keep up vit to tank my own bh's and all sorts of other ****. By the time you're suited in end game (ish, maybe even tt90) gear, you can restat again and remove a little bit of the vit since it's made up for in the addons on the gear. At lvl 101, I actually have 94 base vit after a full restat. and am capped a solid 200 dex with gear on (198 for TT100's and extra 2 for the crit, just as Aeyisha said).

    Honestly, use your best judgment, make sure you're aware of the stats that you need to have in order to equip the weapons you are aiming for next.. and roll with the punches. I did just fine.

    Money comes better after 90+ when you're farming TT's and you begin the steady grind to OPness and better instances.
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  • Sakubatou - Sanctuary
    Sakubatou - Sanctuary Posts: 4,001 Arc User
    edited September 2011
    I highly suggest not going the axe/fist build from level 1.... Go axe/vit build until 80ish and then restat.

    I was always behind a few levels on being able to equip current level axes or weapons, because I kept enough vit in my build that I had a higher survivability rate as a noob wandering the map. At 80, I restated so that every 10 levels (80, 90, 100...), I could equip current level axes (TT80 at 80), but I was behind on the fists (TT70 at 80) and could start skilling in fists. This allowed me to keep up vit to tank my own bh's and all sorts of other ****. By the time you're suited in end game (ish, maybe even tt90) gear, you can restat again and remove a little bit of the vit since it's made up for in the addons on the gear. At lvl 101, I actually have 94 base vit after a full restat. and am capped a solid 200 dex with gear on (198 for TT100's and extra 2 for the crit, just as Aeyisha said).

    Honestly, use your best judgment, make sure you're aware of the stats that you need to have in order to equip the weapons you are aiming for next.. and roll with the punches. I did just fine.

    Money comes better after 90+ when you're farming TT's and you begin the steady grind to OPness and better instances.

    The first 30 levels provide quests that give you axes as quest rewards. These are sometimes your strongest weapon and axe damage = fist damage without any -int gear.

    However after level 29 you get a single spark and your self heal skill, both of which require chi. At this point, if you use fists you'll take alot less damage by killing things much quicker. You grind faster, and you'll be able to self heal more often. Because fists don't require as much skill usage and kill things quicker you save mp and hp pots.

    That's why I'd recommend statting dex for fists and letting it be your strength that falls behind a bit. You'd still need 2.5 str for HA per level, but the remaining .5 str can be added to vitality as 1 vit every 2 levels.

    I don't know how what Suaver meant by he "tanked" his BHs since fist BMs are the tanking build. Vit BMs are about the lowest damage output class/build in the game and would not hold aggro off of anything so wouldn't tank. Fist BM is the tanking build and even at 3 or 5 vit most of us have no hp issues. I tanked everything with 3 vitality and had no troubles. I will admit a few more points into vit would have been nice, but was never required beyond a comfort factor.
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  • Sarrafeline - Sanctuary
    Sarrafeline - Sanctuary Posts: 4,661 Arc User
    edited September 2011
    I got a 5 Dex tome. That's 5 vit points I restatted into vit. I'm considering selling that tome and sharing the +15 dex tome I got for my archer/sin. That would be another 10 dex I could stat into Vit.

    But you'll never have 90 base vit like my Sin does, unless you want to use level 50 or so gear, or be pure axes.
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  • Fallenkai - Archosaur
    Fallenkai - Archosaur Posts: 12 Arc User
    edited September 2011
    hammer and axe builds should be 6 str 1 dex every 2 levels which is 3 vit every other level.
  • Sarrafeline - Sanctuary
    Sarrafeline - Sanctuary Posts: 4,661 Arc User
    edited September 2011
    hammer and axe builds should be 6 str 1 dex every 2 levels which is 3 vit every other level.

    This, uh, makes no sense.

    You get 10 stat points over 2 levels.

    You've accounted for 7 of them.

    Or did you mean 6 str 1 dex 3 vit every two levels?

    TBH, I'd do 8 str 1 dex 1 vit. Less HP, more DPS. Cap your vit at 50 and everything into str, except one dex every other level.

    you're still gonna be useless for anything but... Well I can't think of anything, but that doesn't mean there's nothing you can do at endgame.
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