Mystics Vs World

mryc
mryc Posts: 71 Arc User
edited September 2011 in Mystic
Hi all, there has been a few posts about PvP on Mystics, but I wanted to make this thread to bring it all together.

The poll (if it works) is to vote for the class you would like least to face in PvP.

Please post your PKing/Dueling experiances here and also chat about techniques or combos you found that work well for dealing with tough enemys.

For more referances im making a Link list (please post comments here rather than necroing old threads);
Mystic PvP Video
http://pwi-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=1164921

Are Mystics a good 1st class for PvP and general play?
http://pwi-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=1164971

Mystic in PvP
http://pwi-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=1156881

Made my first video :D
http://pwi-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=1146101

Mystic for pk
http://pwi-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=1049361

Mystics And PK
http://pwi-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=1097821

Best summon for pk
http://pwi-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=1084901

FieryNeko first PWi Video
http://pwi-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=1081271

Please post your PvP strategies, stories, and tips/thoughts here! Still active thread
http://pwi-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=1185261
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  • VoItaire - Harshlands
    VoItaire - Harshlands Posts: 1,033 Arc User
    edited September 2011
    Ok, my experience pking as a mystic is that we kinda have the same threats as psys, and by that I mean one thing. DPH is what really kills mystics rather than DPS. Just thought I'd give a few types on the individual classes so if you're having trouble with a certain one I hope this post can help you.

    Blademaster: These usually aren't too difficult especially if you see them coming and are fast enough to react against stuns, and if you can't, a well timed genie skill like, domain, expel, badge, or fortify can always fix this. Basically just do w/e you can to keep them away from you. I personally find storm to be the most useful against them since her seal still works even if they have anti stun unlike devil's skull slap, but if you kite out the anti stun devil can be pretty useful too, he just won't do as much dmg.

    Wizard: Also not too difficult, but if they get the drop on you they can be pretty dangerous. Any pet works well for them but for the ones that do large amounts of dmg while being easily shut down(glass cannon types :b), devil works well, but later on I'd rather use storm since wizzies have crazy pdef at some point. Listless Blossom is really helpful against them, and use Nature's Barrier to buy you enough time to set things up. The one in my video had epic refines. @_@

    Archer: Storm/Devil work best. R8+ archers hurt a lot, so for them I usually send in either storm or devil to seal/stun them while they are chasing me since they have more range, and I use that time to use thicket. After that they usually die fast but if not just summon listless, use nature's vengeance, lysing, rapid growth, absorb soul, and if still alive, gale force.

    Cleric: Clerics seem to crit a lot with plume shot and it will hurt usually. >.> But other than that they're pretty much one trick ponies. Just don't let them catch you off-guard with their sleep. One mistake I see many people make when fighting clerics, when they sleep you, DO NOT waste domain on their first attack after sleep, because then you'll still be sleeping and won't be able to use the domain, just wait after first attack, then use domain if you want for a breather. Any smart cleric will kill your summon after sleeping you but that's ok you don't need it anyway. Listless works especially well when you don't have a pet summon out.

    Barbarian: These are annoying at best. They're really easy to kite, but if they're charmed and have lots of hp it can be a long fight. Next time I fight one of these I'll have to see how a thicket/cragg combo works out.

    Venomancer: These can be very dangerous with nix bleed. Domain is very helpful to block bleed and lucky scarab, but if they manage to get bleed in use triple spark to purify because they usually also use ironwood with it and armor break + bleed can kill you fast. But after the triple spark they usually go down fast, if they start to kite spark don't chase them, just build more chi or kill their nix.

    Assassin: If you face a member of this class who actually knows what they're doing might be best to just walk away. Like seriously there's a 9x sin who uses hooks on my server that I fear more than a lot of the 10x ones because he actually knows what he's doing which makes me wonder why he plays such an easy class. But salvation is usually the best pet to go with this to survive the initial overly prepared stealth attack, to give you enough time to counter with a genie skill. Expel is probably your best bet here. Anyway, I do not recommend fighting a higher lvl member of this class with less than 2.3 sparks. Thicket is really helpful especially since it can kill them through deaden. Never stay in the same spot too long when you know one of these are targeting you. If you can summon a plant and stay near it, but even then don't stop moving because they can still prepare by resisting the plant's debuffs with domain and double spark.

    Psychic: All you really have to do is know about how this class and their buffs work, if you get soulburned or vectered you might need genie assistance to survive. Listless also works great here. Whenever you lead with an attack, thicket is an awesome lead because it goes through soul of stunning and retaliation. If you dont' have the sparks to spare or have other plans for them, you can just have you pet break it simply use a punishing sting.

    Seeker: Here's another part where I was mentioning the dph problem. Especially a dph melee class. If you see them use Blade Affinity, I highly reccomend using Nature's Barrier because they can easily follow with Void Step(tele stun) and use lots of powerful skills. Listless works great against these as well especially to have it there to lyse in case they spark or something. Even though they have ranged skills, it's still a good idea to keep a distance because then they'll be forced to use more metal skills. This class is really vulnerable to control so that's nice for us I guess.

    Mystics: Um, from my experience these fights can either be really long or really short. Usually the one with better gear wins. Idk mystics don't die easy, but I haven't really fought very many on my server to develop a consistent strategy that's effective.

    Edit: Also here's another video a friend of mine made that you might want to add to your list.
    http://pwi-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=1081271
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  • mryc
    mryc Posts: 71 Arc User
    edited September 2011
    I just got Cragglord today at level 61 b:pleased so of course that means time to duel and show off b:chuckle

    First I fought a level 70 barb in average gear, mostly TT70 nothing higher than +1, my gear is really poor defencive wize, it's just for mana regen bonuses. I started with Salvation out, cast the shields on me wile the timer was on, got stunned at the start, summoned craggy and healed my self after my shield went down. Craggy did alot less than expected, but by the time he left I was back to 2 spark, so used Spark Burst+ and two natures and it killed him b:chuckle wasn't even close, even with the 9 level gap and awful stats I have.

    Due to how much more effective using spark for Spark Burst was, I hardly ever use cragglord now. I dueled a Sin my level, Spark+, Rapid Growth and Bramble Tornado, dead b:chuckle I only ment to push him away to start the fight from a distance.

    Only Duels so far b:surrender too scared to go red yet.
  • Kaitica - Heavens Tear
    Kaitica - Heavens Tear Posts: 270 Arc User
    edited September 2011
    Crag is a poor choice for PvP just because... he has limited range. And on a barb... they got those hp's... thicket is the nuke skill b:dirty
  • mryc
    mryc Posts: 71 Arc User
    edited September 2011
    Perhaps it's due to my thicket being level one, but for me it doesnt help anywhere near as much as Sparking up.

    Had more duels last night b:victory

    I'm now 62, I challanged a level 101 Barb about 4 times, cos im crazy b:cute Thanks to Salvations shields and sparking mixed with Growth I got him down to about half hp every time.

    Straight after this I fought a level 71ish Seeker, we kept fighting again and again I lost count, he just couldn't get passed my shields. a little wile later I met a friend who is a level 82 Seeker, and he showed me how they are ment to be, ripped me to bits the first time lol b:surrender but after I started to get used to the skills I nearly won, got him down to about 30hp I think.

    Much later on, im now 63 and challanged a level 70 archer to duel, as we had 5mins to wait to hand a quest in. First duel was LOL as I sparked, Growth and then tornado Crit, getting through his shield and killing him in one hit. Had a few more slightly longer fights but I won them b:laugh
  • VoItaire - Harshlands
    VoItaire - Harshlands Posts: 1,033 Arc User
    edited September 2011
    Eh, personally I never used either sparking or the two 59 skills in pvp much when I was that lvl there was never much need for it and 6x was actually when I started pking in tusk town. I remember I poked a mystic once and he summoned cragg lol and I just kited it. xD He's actually a good friend of mine now. :o I'm not really sure if there's a big difference if any at all between how long thicket debuffs for lvl 1 and lvl 10 since I pretty much just maxed it from lvl 2 when I was somewhere in 8x which is when I actually started to use it a lot xD.
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  • krishnaya
    krishnaya Posts: 47 Arc User
    edited September 2011
    Oh this is awesome! Thank you very much! I didn't know there was a PvP strategy/discussion thread already and kinda started one to try to get feedback and learn about PvP. The videos you have here are great. I have a story I was going to share on my thread, but I'll put it here instead.

    Today I got pwned by a barb. I was fighting some mobs near Dreamweaver when he came up on me and stunned me. I wasn't expecting it and was a little slow to react but I should've handled it better. I had mistress out and sent her onto him. To be honest I can't remember exactly how it happened but I did attack him and ticked his charm. He was about to die when he tripple sparked. I saw he was sparking so I waited about one second and sage sparked myself. When my spark animation finished he used occult ice on me. I was stunned and tried to react by using occult ice back on him thinking we'd both be stunned but that mine would wear off first. It didn't work, he didn't get stunned and finished me off really easily when I didn't stun him. He one shot me. ><

    Any idea what I should have done differently?
  • Kaitica - Heavens Tear
    Kaitica - Heavens Tear Posts: 270 Arc User
    edited September 2011
    krishnaya wrote: »
    Oh this is awesome! Thank you very much! I didn't know there was a PvP strategy/discussion thread already and kinda started one to try to get feedback and learn about PvP. The videos you have here are great. I have a story I was going to share on my thread, but I'll put it here instead.

    Today I got pwned by a barb. I was fighting some mobs near Dreamweaver when he came up on me and stunned me. I wasn't expecting it and was a little slow to react but I should've handled it better. I had mistress out and sent her onto him. To be honest I can't remember exactly how it happened but I did attack him and ticked his charm. He was about to die when he tripple sparked. I saw he was sparking so I waited about one second and sage sparked myself. When my spark animation finished he used occult ice on me. I was stunned and tried to react by using occult ice back on him thinking we'd both be stunned but that mine would wear off first. It didn't work, he didn't get stunned and finished me off really easily when I didn't stun him. He one shot me. ><

    Any idea what I should have done differently?

    Shouldn't have sparked

    Thicket woulda been better for one. He most likely couldn't of resisted sleep if he triple sparked so listless woulda helped

    Gale force, bramble, rapid growth thrown in there

    The main problem is you wasted three sparks when you could have used all those skills
  • radharani808
    radharani808 Posts: 4 Arc User
    edited September 2011
    Ok another PvP story. Today I saw a sin (found out later her was r8, i'm only lvl 98 now) stealth. I told my friend who I was in a squad with what I'd seen. I put a listless blossom on a nearby mom and my friend and I stood by it waiting. I saw a low lvl cleric run up and just kinda guess that the sin was this persons friend. I put another listless on the cleric and sure enough the sin was there. Listless brought him out of hiding and I stuned him with devil, used thicket, natures, gale, natures, and killed him. He came back and whipped me a couple times very easily since he's 5.0 r8 sin, but i did manage to kill him one more time. Twice total.
  • krishnaya
    krishnaya Posts: 47 Arc User
    edited September 2011
    VoItaire - Harshlands wrote: »

    Blademaster: These usually aren't too difficult especially if you see them coming and are fast enough to react against stuns, and if you can't, a well timed genie skill like, domain, expel, badge, or fortify can always fix this. Basically just do w/e you can to keep them away from you. I personally find storm to be the most useful against them since her seal still works even if they have anti stun unlike devil's skull slap, but if you kite out the anti stun devil can be pretty useful too, he just won't do as much dmg.
    http://pwi-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=1081271

    How would expel help in this situation? While under the effect of expel you can't do anything except run as far as I understand, from my experience. Is the idea to expel yourself and then run somewhere safe?
  • Barunaa - Heavens Tear
    Barunaa - Heavens Tear Posts: 420 Arc User
    edited September 2011
    krishnaya wrote: »
    How would expel help in this situation? While under the effect of expel you can't do anything except run as far as I understand, from my experience. Is the idea to expel yourself and then run somewhere safe?

    yes. expel saves ur *** basically especially from sins that come out of stealth to surprise atk u. using expel will give u enough time to put distance between urself and the enemy and heal up. depending on how u use it it can save ur life and allow u to kill the enemy.

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