Should PvP Be OUTLAWED in PvE servers?

Berthabusti - Heavens Tear
Berthabusti - Heavens Tear Posts: 66 Arc User
edited September 2011 in Arigora Colosseum
Should PvPing be outlawed in PvE servers?
Discuss: The above & PvPing in SP. Please do be specific about what you're saying!!
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  • DemonicCrit - Dreamweaver
    DemonicCrit - Dreamweaver Posts: 6 Arc User
    edited September 2011
    oh wait change my vote to ya=D. pvp should be allowed on all servers just not forced apon them
  • _Ghoul_ - Lost City
    _Ghoul_ - Lost City Posts: 973 Arc User
    edited September 2011
    na cos then more pvp server get more populated.

    simple put you want pvp you roll pvp server you wana only kill mobs borring but yes roll pve server.

    this way all ppl get what they want.

    if ur a coward that dont wana pvp untill u get 100 wish u can easy get with fc get lostb:angry
  • Emaralda - Sanctuary
    Emaralda - Sanctuary Posts: 10 Arc User
    edited September 2011
    I believe PVP in the form of the "PK on/off" feature is fine, even fun for those who wish to participate. I do not, however, believe that PVP should be thrust upon everyone on a PVE server as it was in the Secret Passage.
    I wish PWI would open the Arena or create some form of "Switch Servers" reset note where players over a certain level could move their characters to a PVP server. Perhaps, a new server created just for the "jumpers" in order to remain fair to the players on the older PVP servers who have paid their dues the hard way?
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  • _Ghoul_ - Lost City
    _Ghoul_ - Lost City Posts: 973 Arc User
    edited September 2011
    why would the player on pvp server want 105 goonie to jump in our server we have alredy to many.
    keep ur goonies and if they want pvp roll pvp server as a matter of fact they should take ur on off switch and let all on pve server remain blue let u keep tw as only pvp and ur duels.

    maybe this would make ppl reroll to our server and let the pvers we left aloneb:victory.


    this make the most sence let the ones who dont want pvp stay with killing mobs and force theone who wana pvp move to the ather two server period.
  • Tygurr - Sanctuary
    Tygurr - Sanctuary Posts: 296 Arc User
    edited September 2011
    It's called a PvE server for a reason. Anything PvP-related should -NOT- be on it. Period.
    Somewhat retired from PWI, now playing Hellgate Global full time
  • IAetius - Dreamweaver
    IAetius - Dreamweaver Posts: 197 Arc User
    edited September 2011
    PWI gives everyone a choice in this matter. If you wanna pk, then just switch modes and pk. If you don't wanna pk then just ignore the dumb button.

    Most people go to PvE servers so they aren't farmed by other players while they grow and develop their gear. Then once they reach a point where they are end game and comfortable they can go join in the pvp fun. I honestly think TW is better because I like the strategy aspect but PvP can be a fun thing to do on the week days and I love how Perfect World offers us a choice in the matter.

    BTW. It wasn't very smart to ask 2 different questions for the title of this forum and then the poll. It confuses a lot of people. I change my vote from no to yes because I thought the poll wanted us to answer the title of this post.
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  • _Ghoul_ - Lost City
    _Ghoul_ - Lost City Posts: 973 Arc User
    edited September 2011
    yet as you saw sp become a fiasco cos the bored ppl who gooned where farming kill from the pve comunity.

    seriusly if ppl wana pk go to a pvp server lv dosent matter anymore gear might but who cares rightb:chuckle
  • Sudaj - Lost City
    Sudaj - Lost City Posts: 24 Arc User
    edited September 2011
    The old servers like Sanctuary, were never considered only a PvE server, it was just one of the servers that was playable. Many of the veteran players still play one of the firsts servers because it's where they worked for their levels and gear, and just where they started and were proud of it. However, later they added two full PvP servers, with labeling the original ones as PvE. By looking at these facts, I don't see why the labeled PvE servers should be excluded with a new feature added later on, they should just get the choice of whether or not, which they do. I do agree with previous threads; that you should be able to pick PvP in Secret Passage as well. IMO the arena should just be opened for safe PvP, not have it be in Secret Passage.
  • _blood_rain - Sanctuary
    _blood_rain - Sanctuary Posts: 2,532 Arc User
    edited September 2011
    Well for one thing, no it wasn't a bug.

    For another, it has been allowed before , but at the time SP was changed to become PvP ffa it was illegal to pvp there even in the voluntary pk mode. But it has always been a hot spot for pvp on my server. I will say it's actually quite dense to suggest people simply move all to a pvp server, many worked for years to get to where they are, or have friends here.

    And I never personally saw the necessity in banning PK in sp altogether if blue names were unable to be harmed, but if you are asking whether it should be banned now in its current state until it gets reverted, I think the Gms plan to leave it legal until that time.
  • seawaif500
    seawaif500 Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited September 2011
    I personally do not mind PvP on a PvE server as long as people retain the ability to choose. However, the growth of the low level players in SP is being taken away as there are quests they need in SP to progress and higher level players who do not wish to PvP, or wouldn't know how with any success, will no longer take low level players into SP.

    I suppose if you are trying to figure out how to eliminate people at the lowest levels, this is the way to do it, but remember, where we all came from...at one time we were all low level players.

    Personally, I do not understand what pleasure a high level gets from PK'ing a low level toon in SP...just how gratifying can that be..."oh, oh, my level 100 toon just killed a level 29 toon"...yes, real nice guys.

    Can't we put a random PvP area someplace where it isn't so embarassing to PvP, please?
  • DaKillanator - Raging Tide
    DaKillanator - Raging Tide Posts: 2,965 Arc User
    edited September 2011
    @ the title- no

    @ the poll- yes

    Way to do things *** backwards and pose a poll question that would get an answer opposite the thread title.
  • DuckTapez - Archosaur
    DuckTapez - Archosaur Posts: 855 Arc User
    edited September 2011
    Tygurr - Sanctuary wrote: »
    It's called a PvE server for a reason. Anything PvP-related should -NOT- be on it. Period.

    it's called PvE because PvP is not forced
    if you don't like the idea of PvP on a PvE server then just don't turn on pk mode. Period.
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  • ilenor
    ilenor Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited September 2011
    mm now if that was the way of it you would be right, Except now even if you are blue and never want to pvp you don't have choice if you want to do quests in secret passage

    PVE servers should mean just that, otherwise it is a joke.

    I vote no FORCED PVP on PVE servers as it is now.
  • mcfreakie
    mcfreakie Posts: 531 Arc User
    edited September 2011
    I dont know why some numb nuts would roll on a PVE server if they desire pvp anyway. The entire blunder in SP shows the developers have no clue how to code places using the on/off pvp button. If so many are scared of losing items they should start having the discussion of removing the penalty feature instead of trying to convince PVE players we should avoid quests or claiming you are bored with killing mobs only to sit and hunt players you can 1 or 2 shot. Then again no one has seen a legitimate idea on any of the suggestion threads in favor of pvp instances outside of one word answers like Arena.
  • brazenbusboy
    brazenbusboy Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited September 2011
    PVP is a requirement forced on the devs by the marketing droids who think every game has to be Halo.

    Most players vote with their feet, and simply put, we don't want no stinking PVP so we roll on a PVE server.

    No one wants the crappy, totally stat based PVP foisted off in PW. It is no more exciting than card based combat. Who ever has the best deck (gear) wins. period, end of story. If that appeals to you, please go play a card based game.

    If people want PVP, there are tons of excellent games that do it and do it way better than PW ever could.

    If you want PVP roll a PVP server. If you want PVP and PVE, you are seriously messed up and should see a shrink. Make up your mind, or roll a player on both.

    b:laugh

    PW's ultiimate PVP TW is a total flop and most of the promised functionality has never been delivered or canceled.
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  • DaKillanator - Raging Tide
    DaKillanator - Raging Tide Posts: 2,965 Arc User
    edited September 2011
    brazenbusboy wrote: »
    PVP is a requirement forced on the devs by the marketing droids who think every game has to be Halo.
    PvP is forced on the game because people want it
    brazenbusboy wrote: »
    Most players vote with their feet, and simply put, we don't want no stinking PVP so we roll on a PVE server.
    We don't want no stinking PvP while we quest, so we roll on a PvE server.
    brazenbusboy wrote: »
    No one wants the crappy, totally stat based PVP foisted off in PW. It is no more exciting than card based combat. Who ever has the best deck (gear) wins. period, end of story. If that appeals to you, please go play a card based game.
    When you fight an equa-geared opponent, PvP is fun.
    And fyi, I would woop your *** in a pokemon card game
    brazenbusboy wrote: »
    If people want PVP, there are tons of excellent games that do it and do it way better than PW ever could.
    sure if you want to pay $15 a month. Not to mention those games might have worse graphics, an immature player base, no variety, or any number of problems.
    brazenbusboy wrote: »
    If you want PVP roll a PVP server. If you want PVP and PVE, you are seriously messed up and should see a shrink. Make up your mind, or roll a player on both.
    PvE is practically a requirement if you want to PvP, because you need gear. That was honestly one of the stupidest sentences I've ever seen on these forums, and I've seen a lot, so grats for that.
    brazenbusboy wrote: »
    PWI's ultiimate PVP TW is a total flop and most of the promised functionality has never been delivered or canceled.
    TW is excellent, idk what you're talking about. Have you even been to a TW? Something tells me you're a 8x that's never TW'd talking out of their ***.
  • _blood_rain - Sanctuary
    _blood_rain - Sanctuary Posts: 2,532 Arc User
    edited September 2011
    Lol wow people, some of you don't seem to understand that PvP is a part of the game, whether you are on a pvp server or a pve one. You should not be forced to if you don't want to(imo it's really not that bad), but this rhetoric of "reroll pvp server" has no logic applied behind it. It's only value is in sounding definitive, while actually being full of holes.

    I have rerolled servers before, but at this point I'd lose game time with some friends and it would be a great hassle to do so again :s


    Anyway I believe the greatest value of a PvE server is that it is far more convenient to not have the constant, cumbersome expenses of PvP all the time. PvE servers were by no means meant to completely exclude players from any PvP experience, as that is great part of the game. It is simply the player's choice to partake often, occasionally, or not at all. So in that view, telling us to reroll actually sounds quite anti-logical >.>
  • Laphroaig - Raging Tide
    Laphroaig - Raging Tide Posts: 194 Arc User
    edited September 2011
    Personally, I don't think that PvP should be 'outlawed' on a PvE server, as long as it does not affect those that are not PvP characters. PvP has its place for those that enjoy that side of a game, and although I am not a PvP type player, I don't find anything wrong with allowing characters that so choose to be PK on a PvE server, to be so. The only instance I can think of, where I disagree with PvP is when those that are not PK, who play completely PvE, are affected by it such as the SP debacle.

    Allow people wanting to be PvP to be a choice on a PvE server, just don't let it bother those that do not so choose to be.
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  • Starsteel - Heavens Tear
    Starsteel - Heavens Tear Posts: 59 Arc User
    edited September 2011
    NO, Personally I wish they would make them all PVP servers or allow server transfers. b:dirty

    I say no to removing PVP because before they changed SP no one was ever forced to PK unless you chose to.

    They should "fix" the PVP arena (after what 3 years now? b:cry) and keep the PVP by choice option.
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  • mcfreakie
    mcfreakie Posts: 531 Arc User
    edited September 2011
    DaKillanator - Raging Tide wrote: »
    PvP is forced on the game because people want it


    No you just beat it with that statement. PVP is FORCED because people WANT it? HAHAHA Did you forget to read the other threads with pages and pages of people who flat out state THEY DO NOT WANT TO PVP EVER?

    New stupidest comment on forum award winner!
  • StacysMum - Dreamweaver
    StacysMum - Dreamweaver Posts: 305 Arc User
    edited September 2011
    mcfreakie wrote: »
    No you just beat it with that statement. PVP is FORCED because people WANT it? HAHAHA Did you forget to read the other threads with pages and pages of people who flat out state THEY DO NOT WANT TO PVP EVER?

    New stupidest comment on forum award winner!

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