New PVP Instance Suggestions

b:shocked tell those noobs there are TWO pvp serverb:shocked.

someone must inform the ignorant about the choices too that PPL can pk here after u reach lv30b:surrender

_Ghoul_ - Lost City wrote: »

b:shocked tell those noobs there are TWO pvp serverb:shocked.

someone must inform the ignorant about the choices too that PPL can pk here after u reach lv30b:surrender

Not everyone is thrilled about the idea of starting all over on a new server when there is the option of a penalty free pvp instance.

Personally, I think the fools should just open the arena that was used for the PWIC tourney try-out thingy.

I got it guys............................................


























OHT. /end discussion

Tigerninja - Heavens Tear wrote: »

b:victoryArena seemed to be a good place where you can PK. It's the place you land into after you talk to that 'Herc' NPC. It's not visited anyway.

But need to create an instance or spot where lag doesn't affect gameplay just like in Laggosaur...with its number of players and all. Because I bet SP became quite laggy with all PKers there. Like selection of instances/PK rooms. Well I guess main factions will choose their own rooms but it's fun.

My other suggestion to you guys, if you wanna PK for real, just go on PVP servers and stop QQ'ing about PK'ing in PVE servers!!! b:angryb:shutup

What do you idiots not understand about the differences between this type of instance pvp and open world pvp?

I'm getting slightly irritated at the level of ignorance I am seeing today.

Put up and Container with 100x100meter and put all +10 and 12 geared ppl in there

Tigerninja - Heavens Tear wrote: »

b:victoryArena seemed to be a good place where you can PK. It's the place you land into after you talk to that 'Herc' NPC. It's not visited anyway.

But need to create an instance or spot where lag doesn't affect gameplay just like in Laggosaur...with its number of players and all. Because I bet SP became quite laggy with all PKers there. Like selection of instances/PK rooms. Well I guess main factions will choose their own rooms but it's fun.

My other suggestion to you guys, if you wanna PK for real, just go on PVP servers and stop QQ'ing about PK'ing in PVE servers!!! b:angryb:shutup

_blood_rain - Sanctuary wrote: »

What do you idiots not understand about the differences between this type of instance pvp and open world pvp?

I'm getting slightly irritated at the level of ignorance I am seeing today.

Inflictia - Raging Tide wrote: »

Please tell us this "difference"

Here's the basics. Whether the server is PvP or PvE makes almost no difference in this. (Where Tigerninja fails)
The difference between the two is this....
In open world PvP you have a choice. A. Play for free and have a chance to drop items or have gear shattered. B. Play for free, turn on safety lock and have a chance for gear to shatter. Just pray that you don't need to merchant during that time, and it takes 72 hours to revert it. C. Spend money on Guardian Scrolls, (whether in-game or RL), so that when you do get PK'ed, you won't lose items or have things shatter. Buy one scroll for every time you get killed.
In the instanced PvP, it costs you nothing. You don't lose Experience. You don't drop items. Your gear doesn't shatter. AND IT'S FREE.

These facts are true no matter the type of server that you play on. Less people play on PvP servers because of the cost of guaranteeing that you don't lose items after 30. It's why I hardly play on Lost City now, it's simply cheaper to play on a PvE server.

People want the instance because they want Free PvP. It's a great idea, just don't put it where Blues can be attacked freely and don't put it where people are trying to do quests.

All the rant that's been coming up these past days had nothing to do with PvP instances per se, but just where they decided to put it. Let's say it was a very unfortunate idea, to say the least.

Now, about the new spot, I've read a lot of options, like Cave of Sadistic Glee ( wich, in fact is kind of the middle of nowhere, lol ) but why not just re-activate the arenas? Is it that hard to make them free PvP zone? I'm guessing that would be much easier than copy/pasting a new city, or even opening TW.

Phoenix Valley. o.O
Its free to tele in to, its already set for certain lvls, so pk would be fair.

Well ideally the best choice would be a new instance, whether a clone of an existing one or reenabling the arena. But since the devs choose to simply convert SP to begin this experiment I am guessing they aren't interested in that much work.

So it comes down to the best current locations I would say Nightscream Island or Cave of Sadistic Glee. I know they both have a few quests in there but not too many and most people skip them.

Takeva - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Rejected.

Not everyone likes to pk. I'd rather just do what I have to do and move on about my business when doing PV on my noobs.

I won't be called a Carebear for nothing. b:chuckle


I think they should just open the arena and be done with it.

Annalyse - Heavens Tear wrote: »

I can say that Cave of Sadistic Glee is a bad idea. There are still quests there,

Heavens tear people really love these quest things, the last quest I remember doing was kunkun (It never dies! =/) Then I never quested again. b:shedtear

(P.s no pvp ANYWHERE quests are there. pvp at west? QUESTS pvp at silver pool? QUESTS pvp at hidden orchid? QUESTS pvp at the weekly pvp event? QUESTS let me dig my chests in peace qq)

Eilexa - Heavens Tear wrote: »

+1 TY for suggesting

my bad? i don't see proper suggestion in that. it's just detailing how anti-pk QQ'ers feel.b:surrenderb:shutup

Since I already posted about how crazy it was to put a open pk area on a pve server where level 80+ people get to constantly kill level 29 or so people who are questing, is not a good idea to encourage new players to stay with pwi, I won't state the obvious again. In fact if dad hadn't bought new $10 pwi card after I bugged him for a week, I'd be downloading a new game, with NO PVP involved. If I wanted to pvp, I could play so many first person shooters for instance.

Obviously since this is my second post ever-it should indicate my disgust at the state of affairs, and the general disregard of PWI programmers: case in point:

"While this change is quite jarring, we think it will actually ultimately be a positive one, and for these reasons:"

POSITIVE ONE? LOL Yep level 100's constantly killing low levels is positive. Oh yes, you can use the stone in city (yep I was SOOOO rich at level 29, I could afford to teleport at 5K a pop (50,000 coin for Cain's Guards quest-only 1 guard per dungeon run.) Besides the illusion stone didn't reach the Warlocks, Dismal Shade, the Big Wolf thingy, the Artwork hidden in chest, the body of General Sung body, the Obisarn Guards or Flame devil thingies that are in the SP, and NOT in the dungeon) Sad thing is I've had Cain's Guards quest for so long I'm now level 55, and COULD solo it, IF I was ever able to get though secret passage without getting one shot.

Anyways like so many people have said, apparently there was a PWIC tournament that occured before my PWI joining date. That seems to be a good idea. Or maybe make a new Cube of Fate dungeon. (Call it Cube of PK). Or if the level 100's are so bored, make more new content for THEM? Heck make ALL the new content for them PK on constantly, just so they can find out how sick it is to be questing and BLAM, backstabbed by a pk'r.-and you can generate hundreds more forum pages of THEM qq'ing about not wanting to pvp on a pve server. (I'd love to see some of those PK'ers in SP on my server get constantly one shot, like how they do to us new players in SP.) Maybe put a rampaging level 1000 mob in that new Cube Of PK just so these bored level 100's can experience the pleasure of viewing loading screens, as they zone in, die, zone out back to town, like us low levels are currently experiencing in SP.

Someone suggested making west arch a pvp area... Not a good idea. On our server west city is the most populated place in game... Well, I'd just move my banking and daily divine contracts to south city I guess, since I DON'T pvp. (Seriously, I would have chosen a pvp server if I enjoyed pvp)

Since flying is now allowed in SP, I guess the programmers wanted to give the pvp people a flying area-so why not do it outside-or even better, once again, make a new dungeon, with TALLER CELIINGS? Personally I already think it's silly I have to fly to Arch-then drop 5K or a dungeon every time I want to do a dungeon. I think if the game wanted us to squad up more and play with other people, we could have a "Zone to dungeon" option become available when the squad hit 5-6 people. Do the same for squads who want to zone into this new PK dungeon. I have seen many groups have afk people due to waiting for others to get to dungeon, and one person somehow gets stuck outside, and reach group (omg respawns... yep we get a dungeon save, yet pwi cant keep track of the mobs that died-off topic sure, but?) (Maybe fix it so people who get disconnected dont get kicked from squad... especially since 90% of my DC's are caused by the game, NOT my internet connection-I monitor it, it my connection doesn't even dc or lag most time. So when my connection is solid, I KNOW the game has bugged causing the dc.) Or people in squad go afk while waiting for others to reach dungeon and fall asleep apparently, because they never come back to keyboard.

Surely the programmers at PWI can look at some of the player friendly ways other morpg games have addressed these issues and maybe use parts of these ideas. Like maybe they should have researched how the morpg community views pve and pvp issues? You could have hired one consultant to research public opinion maybe instead of paying SERVERAL programmers. Every company wants cost cutting ideas, so instead of letting the programmers run things (they make a "mistake" and charge you overtime to fix it-or waste several days fixing a problem THEY created). Pay ONE person less for research of other OLDER Morpg's forums and how they resolved these issues (consultants dont need university/years of programming to research public opinion polls online-heck, you probably could have volunteer players who would jump at the chance to help improve the game do this research for FREE.. Price tag: Consulting, possibly zero dollars... Price tag, fixing game after messing it up: serveral programmers pay).

Well great ideas all for making PK zones/dungeons. Wish I knew more about PWIC tournament, sounds like it is already programmed into game after all. Alas, I am just a new player to PWI, not even 2 months of play time, and don't know all the past details about how pvp was addressed in the past. I'm obviously soooo frustrated at viewing loading screens twice every time I try to solve my BH29 quests, as evidenced my my verbose letter posted here.