Frost is more glitched from being fixed O.~

It Just happened to me b:angry

Ois - Lost City wrote: »

Yeah this is what happens when you hire Walmart greeters as developers. b:surrender

Agree'd.

I miss the Archosaur team of devs. They're probably slamming their heads in car doors over how badly the new devs are breaking their game.

b:sad

Ois - Lost City wrote: »

Yeah this is what happens when you hire Walmart greeters as developers. b:surrender

Hey hey hey hey hey! Hey. b:angry

Don't be dissin' on Walmart greeters like that. Comparing them to PWE's development team is just...not right.

Ois - Lost City wrote: »

Many people in world chat are saying that if a person DCs in a frost party everyone gets booted from the instance.

Is it if anyone DCs, or just the squad leader?

Also, is it from DC only, or will a person manually leaving squad have the same effect?

Ois - Lost City wrote: »

Many people in world chat are saying that if a person DCs in a frost party everyone gets booted from the instance.

Good job PW. I'd expect nothing less from you.

Oh and P.S. the glitch still works

I was in a squad of 2 so I could open and the other person left. I wasn't booted.

toast223 wrote: »

lmfao this is what devs and gms should do
MONITOR the situation

They only said they would monitor it...not actually fix anything lol.
Just like they monitored the original glitch for months on end while 100's of people abused it.

So, is the glitch still working, with the same exact experience from the mob? b:sad

I thought you guys had it fixed? b:shocked

Maybe they implemented a way to check on further users of the glitch, and they are now
checking whoever is doing it b:chuckle
And fix it in a few days, when they get someone to punish about it b:laugh

frankieraye wrote: »

We requested a fix as soon as we found out about it, the only "monitoring" of this event was done in horror.

I guess this bug affected every servers, not just the US ones, right?

On a game like WoW or Guild Wars, such a bug would be fixed in a matter of hours, or maybe days, and something would be put in place to prevent players from abusing it, and punishing those who abused it knowingly.

Can you explain us why :

1 - This bug has been going on for months now without a fix?

2 - Nothing was put in place to prevent players from abusing it while you were waiting for a fix?

3 - The bug abusers were never punished for knowingly using a bug?


Shall I remind you about the ToS you guys appears to be so worried about?

11-(l) Using or exploiting any bugs, errors, or design flaws to obtain unauthorized access to the Service or to gain an unfair advantage over other players

Signature says it all.

Blancheneige - Heavens Tear wrote: »

I guess this bug affected every servers, not just the US ones, right?

On a game like WoW or Guild Wars, such a bug would be fixed in a matter of hours, or maybe days, and something would be put in place to prevent players from abusing it, and punishing those who abused it knowingly.

Can you explain us why :

1 - This bug has been going on for months now without a fix?

2 - Nothing was put in place to prevent players from abusing it while you were waiting for a fix?

3 - The bug abusers were never punished for knowingly using a bug?


Shall I remind you about the ToS you guys appears to be so worried about?

Ok here is the deal. PWC appears to have chosen to maximize the profits they can squeeze more out of what is essentially a dead product. They moved future development resources to other titles and now see any work on PW as a loss to the bottom line. Some bean counter has decided that since end game FC leveled cash shoppers spend more money than old school levelers, they continue to develop cash shop packages to take their money. They really like the idea of these new type of players. Immature people with more wallet than attention span will spend large sums of cash to skip all the time consuming 'playing' parts just so they can get to the end levels where they can buy the most expensive gear which they spend a few weeks strutting around Arch in before quitting. This makes the bean counters happy as they just cleared $5k to $10k with zero support costs since the players leave. They may actually hoping most of the player base quits as they plan on shutting this game down sometime. They won't admit it though as they want you to keep buying zen until the last day.

FC glitch is nothing new in the MMORPG world. Anarchy Online was once a thriving SF themed MMO that ended up with the same 'we will look the other way' glitching so paying players could get to end game quickly. There were certain areas and mobs that could be glitched at various levels. Lots of other things got fixed, and lots of people were reported but AO never fixed the code and did nothing to the practitioners. Most honest players at first could not believe this was going on, but eventually everyone realized how prevalent the problem because you could not find anyone to team with due to the fact that so many people skipped all of that via the glitches. That was the start of the death spiral as that is when the honest players started leaving in droves, further making finding teams that much harder. That game may have made a few more quick bucks but now the game is a burned out husk, with only a handful of hold outs wandering mostly vacant servers.

Loooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooool

brazenbusboy wrote: »

Ok here is the deal. PWC appears to have chosen to maximize the profits they can squeeze more out of what is essentially a dead product. They moved future development resources to other titles and now see any work on PW as a loss to the bottom line. Some bean counter has decided that since end game FC leveled cash shoppers spend more money than old school levelers, they continue to develop cash shop packages to take their money. They really like the idea of these new type of players. Immature people with more wallet than attention span will spend large sums of cash to skip all the time consuming 'playing' parts just so they can get to the end levels where they can buy the most expensive gear which they spend a few weeks strutting around Arch in before quitting. This makes the bean counters happy as they just cleared $5k to $10k with zero support costs since the players leave. They may actually hoping most of the player base quits as they plan on shutting this game down sometime. They won't admit it though as they want you to keep buying zen until the last day.

FC glitch is nothing new in the MMORPG world. Anarchy Online was once a thriving SF themed MMO that ended up with the same 'we will look the other way' glitching so paying players could get to end game quickly. There were certain areas and mobs that could be glitched at various levels. Lots of other things got fixed, and lots of people were reported but AO never fixed the code and did nothing to the practitioners. Most honest players at first could not believe this was going on, but eventually everyone realized how prevalent the problem because you could not find anyone to team with due to the fact that so many people skipped all of that via the glitches. That was the start of the death spiral as that is when the honest players started leaving in droves, further making finding teams that much harder. That game may have made a few more quick bucks but now the game is a burned out husk, with only a handful of hold outs wandering mostly vacant servers.

Unless mass NT kiting is counted as a glitch, I'm unaware of any glitches involving exp in the game. Obviously there was the whole infamous tagyourit **** deal, but that wasn't involving exp. The downfall of anarchy online can be more attributed to aging graphics and a horrible startup experience than anything else, imho.

Blancheneige - Heavens Tear wrote: »

I guess this bug affected every servers, not just the US ones, right?

On a game like WoW or Guild Wars, such a bug would be fixed in a matter of hours, or maybe days, and something would be put in place to prevent players from abusing it, and punishing those who abused it knowingly.

Can you explain us why :

1 - This bug has been going on for months now without a fix?

2 - Nothing was put in place to prevent players from abusing it while you were waiting for a fix?

3 - The bug abusers were never punished for knowingly using a bug?


Shall I remind you about the ToS you guys appears to be so worried about?

1. We reported it and asked for a fix as soon as it was known to us. It took time to get it modified, and though it all does seem very simple to fix, it actually is not.

2. The only option we had for this would have been to shut down the entire fc instance, which we were not willing to do, because it would have meant removing one of the most popular instances for an extended length of time.

3. For the most part they have not yet been punished, but we're working on that now.