A new alliance? Valhalla, Afterlife and Crimson

Lolwut

I agree, but I'm sure my opinion doesn't matter since I'm currently in Kylin.

Nor do I think anyone will listen because this is the same kind of **** that's been said since Crimson vs. Zulu. Nothing's changed and the exact same points that were valid then are still valid today, cept with some different names and faces on different sides.
Those that face challenges get stronger, those that do not remain weaker and inexperienced, so they compensate for this by ganking. Thus, the entire server has and always will be quality vs. quantity.

TBH since this is a game about map conquest, anything should be considered fair game. This reminds me of the times when someone in league of legends gets 3-man ganked, and then the gankee(a tryndamere) cries out "lol takes 3 to kill me i win all 1v1 bichhhhh poosies".

It's obvious by now no one is gonna beat Catalyst or Kylin 1v1, so this just keeps the game interesting.

But seriously, the OP is obviously a troll post, I doubt any of this information is truthful since he didn't even post on a real char.

amessenger wrote: »

As an officer of one of the guilds concerning this matter, I find it my duty to speak up and present my ideas and opinion on the plans 'behind the scenes'.

It has been discussed amongst the leaders of Afterlife, Valhalla and Crimson to take Kylin off the map as the mutual enemy.
- Valhalla will be attacking Sanctuary, keeping a barrier of Deicide, Crimson and Kylin between them and Catalyst.
- Afterlife will continue to act 'defenseless' against Catalyst and are planning forward to stack alongside Valhalla, taking Kylin's lands.
- Crimson will attack Fragrant Hills, trying to reclaim their lost land. If at one point they get cut off in a way they won't be able to attack Kylin, they will turn themselves to Deicide.

In my honest opinion, this kind of political play disgusts me. TW is supposed to be about fun, competition and guild effort towards success. Instead of trusting in our guilds ability to come forward and succeed, we lower ourselves to little schemes and cowardly behavior that one should be ashamed of. This is also the feeling I get when our guild decided to join in on this plan.
- What happened to Valhalla's pride? We were so eager to take on Catalyst at one point and in my opinion we could have won, or at least given them a good fight and had some fun? Instead it started to turn into no-shows, and eventually repositioning themselves where we could not fight Catalyst. Now asking Afterlife and Crimson's cooperation to take on Kylin?
- What happened to Afterlife's willpower that they showed the first time they attacked Lost City? Why act so defenseless and even plan ahead to the point of being whiped off the map?
- What happened to Crimson's honor that they hold so highly? Kylin vs Crimson are still good wars and to a certain extend they match in power and capabilities. Why does one need to lower themselves into little schemes and tricks just to win? We will be ridiculed even more than ever now we joined in on this plan.

In the end any one of these guilds can give a good 1v1 fight against Kylin, yet they all refuse to trust in their guilds to bring them to success. Instead lowering themselves to the level of disgrace and shame. I am just an officer, not a leader. The decision is not in my hands to change a guilds TW intentions back to what they should be: fun, competition and guild effort. What has become of today's TW motives? Are people that desperate to win?

To me it seems that the leadership of Valhalla, Crimson and Afterlife have lost any feel of decency and morality when it comes to TW and they will do whatever it takes to gain map domination.

lulz, nice troll'ing

Burnout - Harshlands wrote: »

But seriously, the OP is obviously a troll post, I doubt any of this information is truthful since he didn't even post on a real char.

Yeah, kills all credibility when people hide on alts like this.

But I think what OP is saying is...

As an example, two days ago a certain cleric flew out at west, trip sparked midair, and the moment the cleric's feet hit the ground, they'd IG and shot at me. This cleric was well enough refined and geared that I'd definitely die in one shot; hell I might've died without the trip spark. So I died, flew out thinking I would go "get revenge" only to find the cleric wasn't there. About a minute later, the cleric was flying back out of SZ. Same Spiel. Triple spark mid-air, drop down and IG before they're even sure I see them. Again, I died.
Third time they came, I thought why don't I make a point, so when they came back, I IG'ed too. Sat there, asked the cleric how their day was, and then when IGs came off, I killed the cleric in two shots. The cleric did not return after this.
Point of the story being, if you hide behind a bunch of luxuries like potting in PK when your opponent does not, or ganking with ridiculous odds, you're only cheating yourself. What ends up happening is that when people go to TW, where the odds are 1v1 and EVERYONE has a stack of pots ready, then suddenly you find yourself lost and confused when the tactics you've adapted to are failing miserably.
If EVERY guild would just learn to fend for themselves, then TWs as a whole would probably be loads more interesting. Instead, the guilds named in this thread opt to call for ganks, move away from a guild that defeats them or stop trying entirely.
But yeah, this is beating a dead horse. Same story it's always been, and it will be until the underdog guilds actually gain the confidence to take a risk and learn from a loss instead of avoiding it like the plague.



Only question I have looking at the TW map is....
I've always said that I believe people aren't AFRAID of stacking Catalyst, but rather they don't because it sounds boring. They'd either get a crystal sprint or they'd get rolled in 5 minutes.
Yet, here we are now, and people are stacking Kylin. I gotta admit, I don't understand the logic behind that and it does seem extremely cowardly unless there's some other explanation I'm not seeing. Seems like people actually ARE afraid to stack Catalyst, so instead they're going for the second-best guild, with one of the gankers getting crystal sprints while the others get rolled in 5 minutes. Don't see how that's any different from stacking Catalyst, to be honest, cept that this tactic fails to address the very issue that the GANKERS THEMSELVES are sometimes complaining about: Who's gonna stop Cata from taking the map.... b:laugh

VenomousEmo - Harshlands wrote: »

Whoever you are that wrote this, I ****ing love you.

Whoever wrote it should show their face.

If they truly are from a guild but not showing it, then the guilds mentioned are just gonna lie and claim this is a troll. If they're from some random guild and not actually from one of those three, then they're a dirty liar and THEY'RE GOING TO HELL. (PRAISE JEBUS!)

I don't think it matters who wrote it tbh. if all of this is true, time will tell lol... Me? I believe it. There is no doubt that these factions would do what the OP wrote here.

Who cares about map domination just pick one faction you don't like on the map. Take all their lands. Pick another one take all theirs until all the factions you don't like are off the map. Then throw tea parties with crumpets.

amessenger wrote: »

This is not a troll post, these are the current plans as far as they have been discussed amongst the leadership of the guilds in matter. Just go ask your guild leader for confirmation if you have that little faith.

Calm down little boy. we NEVER made any alliance.

I'll quote you something:

Safe List - No PK whatsoever any incidents reported to Crimson PK section on forum.


Insanity
Mayhem
Shangrila
Regulator
&thics

If Crimson make an alliance with Valhala (lulz), we would be ally.
Someone told you that b******* and you trust him

I already knew about AfterLife wanting to "relocate" onto Kylin land before this was even posted, so it's pretty obvious these three guilds all have an understanding even if it isn't a formal alliance. Whether they all sat down and agreed for this to doesn't really matter because the result is the same.

Post from your main and you can probably get an invitation to Kylin if you get kicked.

Tradewind was the best strategic move they could have made: Valhalla won't bid it because it borders Catalyst, Crimson can't take it back and Kylin doesn't care because Deicide isn't Crimson. I actually tried to put my alt in Deicide after their war ended and got rejected so it's a pretty bad alliance, if you ask me.

VenomousEmo - Harshlands wrote: »

I like how the only ones taking this to heart are all from Crimson.........


trolololol?

trolololol

Ligeia - Harshlands wrote: »

Tradewind was the best strategic move they could have made: Valhalla won't bid it because it borders Catalyst, Crimson can't take it back and Kylin doesn't care because Deicide isn't Crimson. I actually tried to put my alt in Deicide after their war ended and got rejected so it's a pretty bad alliance, if you ask me.

maybe they stacked you... because they dont like you? Not our problem >.>

ArchAngeLi - Harshlands wrote: »

why do we even bother talkin about crimmys? it's not like they are factors rite?

since when you're a factor at the TWs? .-.