y do sin need APS

_BlackRose - Raging Tide
_BlackRose - Raging Tide Posts: 12 Arc User
edited December 2011 in Assassin
like rly y is APS soo needed in PWI just get a wiz or a psy they hit a lot and APS cost soo much >.< just if u want APS go make one ur salf like rly see how hard it isb:surrenderb:irritated
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  • Sarrafeline - Sanctuary
    Sarrafeline - Sanctuary Posts: 4,661 Arc User
    edited September 2011
    Um...

    wtf

    Go get yourself -90% channeling and tell me it's cheap.
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  • Sakubatou - Sanctuary
    Sakubatou - Sanctuary Posts: 4,001 Arc User
    edited September 2011
    I well geared sin vs a well geared psychic/wiz the sin will out DD them about by about 12-20 times the amount.

    Aps is an investment. It costs alot, but it also helps you make coin.
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  • Typhyse - Sanctuary
    Typhyse - Sanctuary Posts: 3,469 Arc User
    edited September 2011
    Sarrafeline - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Um...

    wtf

    Go get yourself -90% channeling and tell me it's cheap.
    Go get that then tell me it makes that much of a difference.
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  • Azizsixer - Raging Tide
    Azizsixer - Raging Tide Posts: 249 Arc User
    edited September 2011
    Much like anything...If it was easy to get then there wud really be no point in getting it...although with the amt of 4-5 aps ppl running around the place things get a bit sketchy lol
  • _BlackRose - Raging Tide
    _BlackRose - Raging Tide Posts: 12 Arc User
    edited September 2011
    Typhyse - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Go get that then tell me it makes that much of a difference.

    lol y do DD rly need it clrs ya but DDs not rly xDb:shockedb:sad
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  • Jianqiao - Dreamweaver
    Jianqiao - Dreamweaver Posts: 15 Arc User
    edited September 2011
    Please use correct spelling. You are not texting your friends or trying to stay alive while some mob is whittling away at your HP so the extra 5 seconds it'd take to use proper English shouldn't be too difficult. As it is, I can only assume that you are trolling but on the off chance that you aren't I'll respond to your post as if you were being serious.
    _BlackRose - Raging Tide wrote: »
    lol y do DD rly need it clrs ya but DDs not rly xDb:shockedb:sad

    The same reason why they shard and refine their weapon, to be a better DD. Simple, no?
  • _BlackRose - Raging Tide
    _BlackRose - Raging Tide Posts: 12 Arc User
    edited September 2011
    Jianqiao - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    Please use correct spelling. You are not texting your friends or trying to stay alive while some mob is whittling away at your HP so the extra 5 seconds it'd take to use proper English shouldn't be too difficult. As it is, I can only assume that you are trolling but on the off chance that you aren't I'll respond to your post as if you were being serious.



    The same reason why they shard and refine their weapon, to be a better DD. Simple, no?

    ok well sory for have a lruing disubilut >.>......
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  • Phoenix_Eye - Heavens Tear
    Phoenix_Eye - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,681 Arc User
    edited September 2011
    Sarrafeline - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Um...

    wtf

    Go get yourself -90% channeling and tell me it's cheap.

    That doesnt apply , it would glitch ur skills , Cooldowns would mess up , no macros , and overall mess. (maybe except the wizzie Ultis).

    to OP : 5aps doesnt mess anything , spark hit hit , spark hit hit .
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  • _Skai_ - Raging Tide
    _Skai_ - Raging Tide Posts: 3,407 Arc User
    edited September 2011
    Sins get APS mainly because it can get them the highest DPS in the game. No other class can get as high as a DPS as a 4/5 APS assassin.

    If you do not get any -int gear, then in PvE Assassins aren't the best. Mainly because they're a LA melee class user.
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  • Typhyse - Sanctuary
    Typhyse - Sanctuary Posts: 3,469 Arc User
    edited September 2011
    Jianqiao - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    The same reason why they shard and refine their weapon, to be a better DD. Simple, no?
    She's talking about -chan% on a phys DD, which wasn't said in the first place so idk why she even said this.
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  • Sakubatou - Sanctuary
    Sakubatou - Sanctuary Posts: 4,001 Arc User
    edited September 2011
    The simplest answer is attacking twice in the same amount of time is better than attacking once. And attacking 3 times is better than that because. 5 aps per second is 4 times more attacks in the same amount of time as a sin with no -int so they are doing more damage, getting more heals, sparking more often for more damage, heals, and immunity.
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  • StacysMum - Dreamweaver
    StacysMum - Dreamweaver Posts: 305 Arc User
    edited September 2011
    _Skai_ - Raging Tide wrote: »
    Sins get APS mainly because it can get them the highest DPS in the game. No other class can get as high as a DPS as a 4/5 APS assassin.
    .

    No offence but this game doesn't even need APS adds, an assassin would still have the highest dps in the game if everybody didn't use gear with -int.
    Problem with sin is they have the highest DPH end game as well XD APS is just for farming, thats all ppl use it for, can't blame them for using it in pvp either, coz skill in cash shop pvp doesn't exist.
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  • Ryder_SangHa - Sanctuary
    Ryder_SangHa - Sanctuary Posts: 2 Arc User
    edited December 2011
    StacysMum - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    No offence but this game doesn't even need APS adds, an assassin would still have the highest dps in the game if everybody didn't use gear with -int.
    Problem with sin is they have the highest DPH end game as well XD APS is just for farming, thats all ppl use it for, can't blame them for using it in pvp either, coz skill in cash shop pvp doesn't exist.

    ^^ this=+1
  • Hexalot - Dreamweaver
    Hexalot - Dreamweaver Posts: 871 Arc User
    edited December 2011
    Ryder_SangHa - Sanctuary wrote: »
    ^^ this=+1

    You necroed this thread just to agree to a false statement ?

    Sins do NOT have the highest DPH at end game. You are confusing it with DPS.
  • CrusherJam - Dreamweaver
    CrusherJam - Dreamweaver Posts: 550 Arc User
    edited December 2011
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  • _Skai_ - Raging Tide
    _Skai_ - Raging Tide Posts: 3,407 Arc User
    edited December 2011
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  • _Ghoul_ - Lost City
    _Ghoul_ - Lost City Posts: 973 Arc User
    edited December 2011
    only thing i care for is bramble in pk then all the aps would end right there if i get it inbetween hits.

    you guys like aps in pk fine give ppl bramble and u may aps ppl to death and i think it would solve most of the issues
  • _Ghoul_ - Lost City
    _Ghoul_ - Lost City Posts: 973 Arc User
    edited December 2011
    bramble bosses make them bramble a few times see what happen solo and only sin party and aps party dies YAAAAAAAAAY
  • SerenityCNB - Dreamweaver
    SerenityCNB - Dreamweaver Posts: 1,225 Arc User
    edited December 2011
    This is a necro.

    That said, one of the biggest problems with sins is in pvp is not necessarily aps. (Yes, its a factor, but it is not this alone that makes sins as OP as they are. The other factors are:

    *Stealth: They can see and get to you long before you can see and get to them. This allows them to control the flow of battle...when it starts, where it starts, and without using apoth, sins 30 levels below you have a higher stealth rating than your detection abilities are. I imagine that it would be quite disheartening for a level 100 character to be pvp'ed by a level 70 one....or even a level 80 one....simply because they could not see the attacker, nor be able to attack due to the sins....

    *Control Skills: Sins have every type of immobilization move possible. Not only that, but channel quickly, and can be done in succession to each other allowing for a stunlock, mixed with aps attacks.

    *Extremely high chi gaining abilities: Sins gain chi ridiculously easy. (My level 31 sin gains chi easier than my level 100 sage cleric...not including apoth or genie skills.) For example...an entire spark is granted FOR GOING INTO STEALTH. I don't blame sins for liking it. I like it myself on my sin, but it is pretty unfair.)

    *Bloodpaint: I do believe that sins need this move. The problem is that when the triple spark, that healing power becomes much stronger, and with bp alone, they can take down and solo bosses built for their level. When someone can do this, and then feel that there is no more need for other squadmates, then that's how you know that the semblance of balance is broken.

    I've seen a sin solo dipther, and seen sins solo fc, and nirvana. Its nice that they can do this, and I don't blame them for being able. However, it puts them at an extreme advantage in a lot of different categories.

    *The ability to permaspark: Sins can gain lots of chi easily, and with higher aps comes the ability to permaspark as well. Thus, sins can triple and double spark on their targets almost without pause. A triple sparked character is all the more deadly to face.

    *They can avoid being one shotted with their skills.

    *They have the chance to avoid your control skills.

    *They can easily exit an unfavorable situation with force stealth.

    *They can teleport.

    *They can teleport stun. (Both teleportation abilities allow them to control the flow of battle all the more.)

    *A physical range attack that goes WELL BEYOND the range of any caster. Plus the caster's skills have a high chance of being interrupted.

    *...plus a few others.

    However with those skills combined into one, you've got a pretty vicious character, and a nightmare for arcane classes, and archers. Sins stealth ability allows them to get close before you even know it. They can come out and spark on you in a distance that no one who is pvp'ing would allow anyone to get. Sins also hit extremely hard already, especially when coming from stealth. Their main attacks are with physical damage. Not to mention that have a good genie as well, then they're even more of a nightmare. Even barbs with all of their defenses have a hard time standing up to this. That's part of why sins are considered to be so OP in pvp. All of those skills and abilities to supremely enhance their character...plus 5.0 aps.

    However, the poor veno's got their bramble snatched from them in pvp.
    Archers, psychics, and wizards got their knockback effect snatched.
    Clerics could do with a knockback.

    Compare that with sins. >.> Yeah. That's fair.
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  • Umasi - Harshlands
    Umasi - Harshlands Posts: 15 Arc User
    edited December 2011
    durrrrr aps=gudb:dirty
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  • Northern - Dreamweaver
    Northern - Dreamweaver Posts: 183 Arc User
    edited December 2011
    really the only thing wrong with sins is that they should not be able to do any skills/sparks while in stealth. This is what makes them ruin pvp and for pve it is not needed.

    I mean seriuosly, **** off a higher leveled sin and even if your a sin, you will continually get hit from stealth with a double spark stun from an irongaurded/focused minded op sin. This pretty much makes pvp totally not fun as there isn't much you can do about this even if your in the top gears and charmed. If your not dead by the time you realize your getting killed, you will soon be.
  • Sakubatou - Sanctuary
    Sakubatou - Sanctuary Posts: 4,001 Arc User
    edited December 2011
    Northern - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    I mean seriuosly, **** off a higher leveled sin and even if your a sin, you will continually get hit from stealth with a double spark stun from an irongaurded/focused minded op sin. This pretty much makes pvp totally not fun as there isn't much you can do about this even if your in the top gears and charmed. If your not dead by the time you realize your getting killed, you will soon be.

    Yay for PvP servers, right? Where dcks with too much free-time rule the land. I chose a carebear server to avoid those people so that I could play the game in peace, farm and quest, and chose when to pvp. Unfortunately on my server you run into undergeared ***** you want to pk that never go out of blue name. I wonder if pvp servers have as many people spending millions of coins on teles talking trash and making themselves look bad, but are completely undergeared.
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