FC GLITCH IS FIXED!!! (kinda)

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Escorian - Dreamweaver
Escorian - Dreamweaver Posts: 2,802 Arc User
edited September 2011 in General Discussion
goons will still spawn the same way but they now give exp not worth it. b:chuckleb:byeb:thanks
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  • DuckTapez - Archosaur
    DuckTapez - Archosaur Posts: 855 Arc User
    edited September 2011
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    ...
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    what?
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  • Ikarium - Dreamweaver
    Ikarium - Dreamweaver Posts: 631 Arc User
    edited September 2011
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    Really? Sounds like they just changed the spawn mob to the one from the old farmable FC. Gives **** exp, much like TT mobs.
  • Evict - Heavens Tear
    Evict - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,301 Arc User
    edited September 2011
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    Thank god. This fixes everything. No more 105- oh wait.
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  • krittycat
    krittycat Posts: 4,187 Community Moderator
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    DuckTapez - Archosaur wrote: »
    ...
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    what?

    What Esco is trying to say (I think), is that FC glitch fix was in fact a modification of the experience rate of the Dragoons, rather than a removal of the spawn mechanic. I would like to see official word on it before rejoicing, though...
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  • notdurablesalt
    notdurablesalt Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited September 2011
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    And u know how? You were probably glitching urself i bet!
  • krittycat
    krittycat Posts: 4,187 Community Moderator
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    notdurablesalt wrote: »
    And u know how? You were probably glitching urself i bet!

    Umm... If you go in and actually do the quests, you kind of have to kill the Dragoons that spawn with the boss. Anyone who's been in there would notice the experience difference. In other words, don't go throwing accusations around without proof.b:bye
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  • VenusArmani - Dreamweaver
    VenusArmani - Dreamweaver Posts: 6,009 Arc User
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    KrittyCat wrote: »
    Umm... If you go in and actually do the quests, you kind of have to kill the Dragoons that spawn with the boss. Anyone who's been in there would notice the experience difference. In other words, don't go throwing accusations around without proof.b:bye

    This, and i'm glad to hear this and would love confirmation. :D This fix is the smartest one, i think.
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  • krittycat
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    VenusArmani - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    This, and i'm glad to hear this and would love confirmation. :D This fix is the smartest one, i think.

    Especially if they still allow players who want the challenge to do it. Without the mass experience gain, it shouldn't be an like it was before. We'll see what the official word is after the weekend is out, especially with Labor Day on Monday.
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  • VenusArmani - Dreamweaver
    VenusArmani - Dreamweaver Posts: 6,009 Arc User
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    KrittyCat wrote: »
    Especially if they still allow players who want the challenge to do it. Without the mass experience gain, it shouldn't be an like it was before. We'll see what the official word is after the weekend is out, especially with Labor Day on Monday.

    LOL this anni has turned out to be the worst timing, lol.


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    I kinda wish they had saved the weekend until 5pm and handled some of these issues on Friday though. That's the way it worked with every other store, service, and school in my city. PWI is the only thing that I know of that was closed down this early. I especially wish Frankie would've reconsidered in light of his trip to China and extended vacation to Japan just recently. :P But sometimes you just need a vacation. b:surrender
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  • krittycat
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    VenusArmani - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    I especially wish Frankie would've reconsidered in light of his trip to China and extended vacation to Japan just recently. :P But sometimes you just need a vacation. b:surrender

    To be fair to frankie, he's attending an event that only occurrs once a year.b:chuckle

    If he was going to go, then he was going now.b:surrender
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  • VenusArmani - Dreamweaver
    VenusArmani - Dreamweaver Posts: 6,009 Arc User
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    KrittyCat wrote: »
    To be fair to frankie, he's attending an event that only occurrs once a year.b:chuckle

    If he was going to go, then he was going now.b:surrender

    Makes sense. Like I said, this patch just had the worst possible timing. b:chuckle The one time maintenance maybe should have been skipped.....
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  • Asterelle - Sanctuary_1381265973
    Asterelle - Sanctuary_1381265973 Posts: 7,881 Arc User
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    Are you sure about this? I don't see any change for the XP for a dragoon and the boss AI looks the same...

    What is the level of the dragoon that is spawned? Is it level 88 or level 89?
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    Zanryu - Lothranis Posts: 1,998 Arc User
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    Guess those that glitch goons will have to kindly inform us b:avoid
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  • Hera_aether - Sanctuary
    Hera_aether - Sanctuary Posts: 60 Arc User
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    Asterelle - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Are you sure about this? I don't see any change for the XP for a dragoon and the boss AI looks the same...

    What is the level of the dragoon that is spawned? Is it level 88 or level 89?

    Zanryu - Lothranis wrote: »
    Guess those that glitch goons will have to kindly inform us b:avoid

    Pretty sure she just did...
  • Hideori - Lost City
    Hideori - Lost City Posts: 530 Arc User
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    and you call it fix? they not giving exp, but still spawning. they're not supose to spawn in first place!

    cheap fix for cheap game. as allways....
  • Yin - Momaganon
    Yin - Momaganon Posts: 177 Arc User
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    Sure it is not complete solution but solves the problem it causes.

    Why people always have to find all negative sides of things. Be glad that they try to do something. It is not always easy to debug source code and once you find the problem from it you have to think alternative solution that doesn't cause glitch. Software engineers are not gods that can make every software working perfectly. More complicated software more mistakes...
  • bladerunnerdm
    bladerunnerdm Posts: 145 Arc User
    edited September 2011
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    Dragoons Experience has not changed...

    Cyclotera spawns mob id 24804
    mob 24804 gives 10648 experience

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  • ivoto
    ivoto Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited September 2011
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    bladerunnerdm wrote: »
    http://img855.imageshack.us/img855/5352/unledkvx.png

    could you tell me more sir about the thing you are previewing?
    (like how you use that file or whatever.. it looks like a nice/interesting info)
  • StormHydra - Sanctuary
    StormHydra - Sanctuary Posts: 2,221 Arc User
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    Hera_aether - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Asterelle - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Are you sure about this? I don't see any change for the XP for a dragoon and the boss AI looks the same...

    What is the level of the dragoon that is spawned? Is it level 88 or level 89?
    Zanryu - Lothranis wrote: »
    Guess those that glitch goons will have to kindly inform us b:avoid
    Pretty sure she just did...

    I lol'd b:laugh
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  • Elendirah - Sanctuary
    Elendirah - Sanctuary Posts: 101 Arc User
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    ivoto wrote: »
    could you tell me more sir about the thing you are previewing?
    (like how you use that file or whatever.. it looks like a nice/interesting info)
    http://pwtools.codeplex.com/documentation
    that's a description of the various tools. To get them download pwTools SVN-Downloader.zip (which is in Downloads) , unzip and execute pwtools-binaries.bat, that will start the download of all the tools that will be put in the new folder called pwtools-bin
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  • Hideori - Lost City
    Hideori - Lost City Posts: 530 Arc User
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    Yin - Momaganon wrote: »
    Sure it is not complete solution but solves the problem it causes.

    Why people always have to find all negative sides of things. Be glad that they try to do something. It is not always easy to debug source code and once you find the problem from it you have to think alternative solution that doesn't cause glitch. Software engineers are not gods that can make every software working perfectly. More complicated software more mistakes...

    what positive sides of bugs should I see? there is things like quality of the game, thats what developers should care about. if they doing ****y job why would I give them any compliments?

    and this game is really ****y job - http://img263.imageshack.us/img263/8507/ot2a.jpg
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    MoonUsagi - Heavens Tear Posts: 4,377 Arc User
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    After 300 character reach [lv 105] , will we got event as gift from PWe ? b:chuckle
    People need so long time to reach 105, so PWe should give them special event just like when Kitamura reach 105. lol
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  • Yin - Momaganon
    Yin - Momaganon Posts: 177 Arc User
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    Hideori - Lost City wrote: »
    what positive sides of bugs should I see? there is things like quality of the game, thats what developers should care about. if they doing ****y job why would I give them any compliments?

    and this game is really ****y job - http://img263.imageshack.us/img263/8507/ot2a.jpg

    Bugs are unavoidable in limited resources. At least for me this game has given quite nice gaming experience free of charge so I can't complain. There would be little point to complain if this was pay to play game but still I don't know any game that doesn't have bugs.
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    Hideori - Lost City Posts: 530 Arc User
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    MoonUsagi - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    After 300 character reach [lv 105] , will we got event as gift from PWe ? b:chuckle
    People need so long time to reach 105, so PWe should give them special event just like when Kitamura reach 105. lol

    reach 35 first b:laugh

    sorry, no offence..
    Yin - Momaganon wrote: »
    Bugs are unavoidable in limited resources. At least for me this game has given quite nice gaming experience free of charge so I can't complain. There would be little point to complain if this was pay to play game but still I don't know any game that doesn't have bugs.

    I paid some $ here so I can complain.
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    Pressa - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,287 Arc User
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    Hideori - Lost City wrote: »
    reach 35 first b:laugh

    sorry, no offence..



    I paid some $ here so I can complain.



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  • Empu - Sanctuary
    Empu - Sanctuary Posts: 1,154 Arc User
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    anyone sure it's really a fix? as far as i know, the dragoon mobs (the ones after firebird) have always been glitched in exp rates during 2x or when using a 2x exp scroll...

    But if they did really fix it, a big "yay!"
  • Yin - Momaganon
    Yin - Momaganon Posts: 177 Arc User
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    Hideori - Lost City wrote: »


    I paid some $ here so I can complain.

    You paid $ for gold not to be able to play. You have agreed terms of service and there is nothing that PWI promises that there are no bugs. Also you paid after seeing that this game doesn't meet your quality standards and still you play it.
  • Renza - Raging Tide
    Renza - Raging Tide Posts: 1,939 Arc User
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    Tbh the FC goon glitch may as well not be fixed, to many 105's now from the exploit, unless they all got stuffed back down to 103 or so, apart from the ones that were already 105 (check server backdate files), then I could agree to it being "fixed", if these exploiters stay 105, then it will be the poorest/laziest fix in the history of gaming.
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  • Sirrobert - Dreamweaver
    Sirrobert - Dreamweaver Posts: 3,395 Arc User
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    Hideori - Lost City wrote: »
    and you call it fix? they not giving exp, but still spawning. they're not supose to spawn in first place!

    cheap fix for cheap game. as allways....

    Yes they are suposed to spawn.
    When you attack the boss, he'll spawn 1 dragoon to 'help' him kill you.
    If he's resetting and you hit him, you basicly begin the fight aLOT of times, and thus he spawns alot of dragoonz.
    To fix it, without making the boss extremely easy, is simply take away the exp from the mobs, and thus take away the reason to glitch it. Good fix if you ask me (abit late).


    Though I do hope the actual dragoonz at the end of FC still give exp? XD
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  • Yin - Momaganon
    Yin - Momaganon Posts: 177 Arc User
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    Renza - Raging Tide wrote: »
    Tbh the FC goon glitch may as well not be fixed, to many 105's now from the exploit, unless they all got stuffed back down to 103 or so, apart from the ones that were already 105 (check server backdate files), then I could agree to it being "fixed", if these exploiters stay 105, then it will be the poorest/laziest fix in the history of gaming.

    Poor/lazy fix would be good to implement as fast as possible so you can get time to work real fix. Shame that haven't been done.

    Also I don't have any idea how freely PWI staff can alter source code or do they have to send request to china.
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