Flying and Pking in Secret Passage

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  • VenoMKII - Harshlands
    VenoMKII - Harshlands Posts: 306 Arc User
    edited September 2011
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    I ****ing lol'd reading people crying over this.

    Seriously, **** off, its fun. So what if you have to deal with a little griefing now and again, make friends with someone powerful (A oft used and well tested PvP server method) and get them to escort you.

    Hell, if you just ASK, more often than not one of the PKers will drop out the sky and help you so long as you dont **** around QQing at them first. b:bye
  • anwynd
    anwynd Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited September 2011
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    I ****ing lol'd reading people crying over this.

    Seriously, **** off, its fun. So what if you have to deal with a little griefing now and again, make friends with someone powerful (A oft used and well tested PvP server method) and get them to escort you.

    Hell, if you just ASK, more often than not one of the PKers will drop out the sky and help you so long as you dont **** around QQing at them first. b:bye

    god what do you ****ing idiots dont get here ill use ape talk

    we on pve server to not get big boo boo and deal with people being dicks it against rules me personnally hope you all get bannedb:bye
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  • VenoMKII - Harshlands
    VenoMKII - Harshlands Posts: 306 Arc User
    edited September 2011
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    anwynd wrote: »
    god what do you ****ing idiots dont get here ill use ape talk

    we on pve server to not get big boo boo and deal with people being dicks it against rules me personnally hope you all get bannedb:bye

    PvE is the server focus, not the only thing you can do. *points at TW / Tournament / Theater / whitename mode* dumb ape.

    Deal. With. The. ****ing. PVP. Child.
  • Atrocious - Heavens Tear
    Atrocious - Heavens Tear Posts: 150 Arc User
    edited September 2011
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    It's called a challenge. Deal with this challenge. If you are having problems dealing with this challenge please refer to my guide and stop posting on the topic. We understand you're on a PvE server. You need to understand that you don't ever have to go in Secret Passage if you don't want to. You are aware it is PK enabled. Don't like it? Illusion stone in, or go grind your way to 40. With 12x hypers that would take all of what~ 2 days?

    Don't like the heat? Stay out of the fire. Don't just sit there whining because it's hot.
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  • Hephaesthad - Archosaur
    Hephaesthad - Archosaur Posts: 4 Arc User
    edited September 2011
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    KrittyCat wrote: »
    The thing is, players often don't know the true definition of harassment, and flood the GMs with tickets about accidental killings. This is what resulted in the rule the first time, save for the few true jerks who were griefing other players.

    Your support ticket links are not working
  • VenoMKII - Harshlands
    VenoMKII - Harshlands Posts: 306 Arc User
    edited September 2011
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    Your support ticket links are not working

    DW, tickets get ignored 95% of the time anyway. Saved you the hassle of getting no answer ^_^
  • Hephaesthad - Archosaur
    Hephaesthad - Archosaur Posts: 4 Arc User
    edited September 2011
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    It's called a challenge. Deal with this challenge. If you are having problems dealing with this challenge please refer to my guide and stop posting on the topic. We understand you're on a PvE server. You need to understand that you don't ever have to go in Secret Passage if you don't want to. You are aware it is PK enabled. Don't like it? Illusion stone in, or go grind your way to 40. With 12x hypers that would take all of what~ 2 days?

    Don't like the heat? Stay out of the fire. Don't just sit there whining because it's hot.

    You need to respect other players and do not interfere with the flow of this game. Otherwise you force them to quit and PWI loses whatever profits they gets.
  • Atrocious - Heavens Tear
    Atrocious - Heavens Tear Posts: 150 Arc User
    edited September 2011
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    You need to respect other players and do not interfere with the flow of this game. Otherwise you force them to quit and PWI loses whatever profits they gets.

    To you I say eh, no. Sorry. There are far too many people skipping the quests required in SP altogether for it to really be that much of a problem. However it is totally understandable that you may want to do your quests there.

    If you are having problems, please refer to this handy guide suggesting a method of how you can deal with it.

    Good luck and hope you figure it out.

    Now mods please lock these stupid threads.
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  • paradox666
    paradox666 Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited September 2011
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    So...ya jump ppl going into an area that already stated to be a non pk area resulting in a ban that has had a glitch which results in allowing pk of ppl not in pk which has been deemed a bannable offense then get uppity and self righteous when ppl complain about a blatant glitch and ask that Mods who are ment to enforce Pwi rules on their forums to close threads made by ppl who are complaining about a bunch of ppl who want to pk in an area that is non pk and will result in a ban if they do so....that makes perfect sense hahahaha wow youve made my day/night i love childish arrogant self righteous pety E-peen swinging internet tough dude/dudettes who think they have a right to break rules clearly stated by a service provider who clearly states what is and isnt allowed.

    on a side note if you folks simply owned up to the fact that your all what i stated i above ide proly be ok with it sense i like ppl that actualy own up to their bs not that it really matters it would just be nice to see ppl with a set of gonads these days..then again HA..those ppl are way to few and far between carry on with your "but..im bored" excuse for your behavior its really great stuff b:kiss
  • Atrocious - Heavens Tear
    Atrocious - Heavens Tear Posts: 150 Arc User
    edited September 2011
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    Stating that mods should lock repeat threads is not arrogant, showboating, e-peen boosting, or in any way advantageous to myself. Though it is fun. There are simply many posts already about this topic. They need to be merged, locked, moved, or trashed. There is no problem with people expressing their concern. There is however a problem with spam. It's unhealthy.

    Now if you're having problems, please refer to my guide for help getting through SP.

    For any other problems you may be experiencing~ Good luck with that.
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  • Escorian - Dreamweaver
    Escorian - Dreamweaver Posts: 2,802 Arc User
    edited September 2011
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    Stating that mods should lock repeat threads is not arrogant, showboating, e-peen boosting, or in any way advantageous to myself. Though it is fun. There are simply many posts already about this topic. They need to be merged, locked, moved, or trashed. There is no problem with people expressing their concern. There is however a problem with spam. It's unhealthy.

    Now if you're having problems, please refer to my guide for help getting through SP.

    For any other problems you may be experiencing~ Good luck with that.

    ^ and this is what happens when the gms dont mod the game properly. Morons think its perfectly fine to break the rules since no gm is actually enforcing them in person. b:bye
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  • paradox666
    paradox666 Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited September 2011
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    didnt say ppl like you where arrogant just for asking mods to close threads which you call spam that where ironicaly enough caused by ppl just like you but also because you are stating that aye its ok that we are like having fun at others expense and clearly ya know breaking a rule clearly stated and then expect ppl not to complain and ask that those who are clearly breaking a stated rule be punished rightfuly and then ask them to spend coin they have no need to in order to get a quest done.. sorry but the but its fun and look you can do this instead excuse is not acceptable...


    as for you specificaly heres my Guide close pw restart the loader click start read the splash page with that really confusing bit about sp and how its not a pk area and grow a pair so you can have your pk fun how the game intended instead of being a charlatan incase you cant understand why i would call you that its because of your guide and its sarcastic attempt at being helpful

    may chance have mercy on you so that you may become wiserb:flower
  • ucci
    ucci Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited September 2011
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    i got killed over n over there but so what? u wont lose xp nor items.
    i even made ss for my collection
    reporting someone? why its fun as heckb:laugh
  • Zappingfish - Momaganon
    Zappingfish - Momaganon Posts: 3 Arc User
    edited September 2011
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    ucci wrote: »
    i got killed over n over there but so what? u wont lose xp nor items.
    i even made ss for my collection
    reporting someone? why its fun as heckb:laugh

    I guess you're not charmed and have hours and hours of play time to attempt to get the quests there done.... *sigh*

    Fun? No. Annoying? Yes.
  • ResMePls - Heavens Tear
    ResMePls - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,349 Arc User
    edited September 2011
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    ^ and this is what happens when the gms dont mod the game properly. Morons think its perfectly fine to break the rules since no gm is actually enforcing them in person. b:bye

    I don't blame them. I mean, if a random GM suddenly declares that this random list of stuff is bannable but only 3% of it is actually enforced, why would anyone care to listen to the GM's since their chances of actually getting in trouble are next to none. Now if you want to talk about ZEN charging abuse well that is about the only thing GM's really look at for obvious reasonsb:laugh.
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  • hanfknolle
    hanfknolle Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited September 2011
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    They should make PK Able for 60+ ppls :-] so the lowbies still can quest its really fun to fly there :o
  • Hideori - Lost City
    Hideori - Lost City Posts: 530 Arc User
    edited September 2011
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    ^ and this is what happens when the gms dont mod the game properly. Morons think its perfectly fine to break the rules since no gm is actually enforcing them in person. b:bye

    games like these have no rules, only mechanics. if it really would be forbiden, then you couldint attack players there (like in safe zone), but you can. somehow. you can kill even blue names. and theres even no penalties like item drops in there. you cant even become red after you kill somebody. you need to be stupid to not understand that this is PK area and it is for pk. how come rules and game mechanics are so different? never seen this in any game, but yea, I know PW is unique... looks like our GMs dont really know what they are doing.. or they just joking? or they just testing our loyality for their rules? would be nice to hear something from GMs about that. like "dear players, we did some bull**** here, so from now on you are able to kill anybody in SP, even blue names, but dont forget that it is bannable so dont enjoy this pleasure and freedom until we will fix it. you probably know that things usualy takes several years to fix here, because we are really busy with new cool updates (like motorbikes or this one), so just dont do that or we will ban you. thank you"

    and please dont tell me "its a glitch". a glitch exploiting. what a glitch - free to pk everything in certain area without panalties. what a coincidence...
  • Daedallus - Sanctuary
    Daedallus - Sanctuary Posts: 554 Arc User
    edited September 2011
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    blah,blah blah

    What part of IT'S A BANNABLE OFFENSE TO PK IN SECRET PASSAGE do you have trouble understanding?
  • Hideori - Lost City
    Hideori - Lost City Posts: 530 Arc User
    edited September 2011
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    What part of IT'S A BANNABLE OFFENSE TO PK IN SECRET PASSAGE do you have trouble understanding?

    the part of "then why are we able to kill everything, even blue names there without even risk to lose our items?" why are rules disagree with mechanics? b:laugh
  • Daedallus - Sanctuary
    Daedallus - Sanctuary Posts: 554 Arc User
    edited September 2011
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    the part of "then why are we able to kill everything, even blue names there without even risk to lose our items?" why are rules disagree with mechanics? b:laugh

    Because if you couldn't do it you would never get banned for it, so no rule would be necessary.

    The rule only exists because the game mechanics ( and a bunch of jerk pk'rs picking on low level players ) force it to exist
  • Hera_aether - Sanctuary
    Hera_aether - Sanctuary Posts: 60 Arc User
    edited September 2011
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    Dear Frankie:

    If you need any further evidence that power leveling and lack of rule enforcement are killing this game, please carefully read this thread. The whole thread, not just the excerpts that KrittyCat sends you.

    You'll see high level players with no respect for the ToS and rules of fair play. You'll see bored high level bullies telling people that the quests in Secret Passage don't matter, and they should just skip them, hyper to a higher level, and get on with the game (which undoubtedly means buying heads or a coveted date with gooners). This is what happens when end-game is all that matters.

    You'll see these same bullies telling your lower level players to beg to be able to play their game, and to stop complaining about being bullied. You'll see them even trying to close one of the very few avenues available to people to point out the unfairness of the bullying by asking that threads such as these be closed. Perhaps they don't want you to see what's really going on here.

    Is this what you want for your game? Is this the type of environment that will attract new blood and a stable player base? I'm not sure of the percentage of business that comes from word-of-mouth and happy customers in YOUR industry, but I know in MINE it's substantial. I really can't imagine you're attracting much new business that way at this point.

    I would think that part of your duties include informing management about the general sense of the community. Well I think this thread alone provides a pretty accurate snapshot. And it's not a pretty picture.
  • VenoMKII - Harshlands
    VenoMKII - Harshlands Posts: 306 Arc User
    edited September 2011
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    Dear Frankie:

    If you need any further evidence that power leveling and lack of rule enforcement are killing this game, please carefully read this thread. The whole thread, not just the excerpts that KrittyCat sends you.

    You'll see high level players with no respect for the ToS and rules of fair play. You'll see bored high level bullies telling people that the quests in Secret Passage don't matter, and they should just skip them, hyper to a higher level, and get on with the game (which undoubtedly means buying heads or a coveted date with gooners). This is what happens when end-game is all that matters.

    You'll see these same bullies telling your lower level players to beg to be able to play their game, and to stop complaining about being bullied. You'll see them even trying to close one of the very few avenues available to people to point out the unfairness of the bullying by asking that threads such as these be closed. Perhaps they don't want you to see what's really going on here.

    Is this what you want for your game? Is this the type of environment that will attract new blood and a stable player base? I'm not sure of the percentage of business that comes from word-of-mouth and happy customers in YOUR industry, but I know in MINE it's substantial. I really can't imagine you're attracting much new business that way at this point.

    I would think that part of your duties include informing management about the general sense of the community. Well I think this thread alone provides a pretty accurate snapshot. And it's not a pretty picture.

    Powerlevelling has jack **** to do with secret passage PvP.

    What a wasted post.
  • Hera_aether - Sanctuary
    Hera_aether - Sanctuary Posts: 60 Arc User
    edited September 2011
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    Powerlevelling has jack **** to do with secret passage PvP.

    What a wasted post.

    Even kindergarteners know how to connect the dots. You might wanna give it a try sometime.
  • VenoMKII - Harshlands
    VenoMKII - Harshlands Posts: 306 Arc User
    edited September 2011
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    Even kindergarteners know how to connect the dots. You might wanna give it a try sometime.

    Connect all the dots you like, doesnt mean jack if you scrawled allover the desk reaching the dots on the other book.
  • LenieClarke - Heavens Tear
    LenieClarke - Heavens Tear Posts: 3,275 Arc User
    edited September 2011
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    Dear Frankie:

    If you need any further evidence that power leveling and lack of rule enforcement are killing this game, please carefully read this thread. The whole thread, not just the excerpts that KrittyCat sends you.

    You'll see high level players with no respect for the ToS and rules of fair play. You'll see bored high level bullies telling people that the quests in Secret Passage don't matter, and they should just skip them, hyper to a higher level, and get on with the game (which undoubtedly means buying heads or a coveted date with gooners). This is what happens when end-game is all that matters.

    You'll see these same bullies telling your lower level players to beg to be able to play their game, and to stop complaining about being bullied. You'll see them even trying to close one of the very few avenues available to people to point out the unfairness of the bullying by asking that threads such as these be closed. Perhaps they don't want you to see what's really going on here.

    Is this what you want for your game? Is this the type of environment that will attract new blood and a stable player base? I'm not sure of the percentage of business that comes from word-of-mouth and happy customers in YOUR industry, but I know in MINE it's substantial. I really can't imagine you're attracting much new business that way at this point.

    I would think that part of your duties include informing management about the general sense of the community. Well I think this thread alone provides a pretty accurate snapshot. And it's not a pretty picture.

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  • krittycat
    krittycat Posts: 4,187 Community Moderator
    edited September 2011
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    Powerlevelling has jack **** to do with secret passage PvP.

    What a wasted post.
    Connect all the dots you like, doesnt mean jack if you scrawled allover the desk reaching the dots on the other book.

    Actually, power-leveling has everything to do with the current attitude of players toward the game. Frost glitch (a form of power-leveling) has encouraged players to break rules "because they aren't being enforced". Power-leveling being encouraged through the use of hypers on heads at any level has encouraged players to think that the only way to level is through power-leveling.

    In short, players skip the lowbie quests and then prevent others from doing them, then tell those players they're preventing to just power-level and skip those quests as well. Nothing to do with power-leveling? To the contrary, everything to do with power-leveling.

    Thanks for the great post Hera_aether, and I'll be sure to pass it along to frankie.b:mischievous
  • LenieClarke - Heavens Tear
    LenieClarke - Heavens Tear Posts: 3,275 Arc User
    edited September 2011
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    There shouldn't even be any areas to pk without needing to be in pk mode and using scrolls/safety lock. You want to kill people you need to have consequences.

    yes. THIS. if some random group of friends just want to randomly PK, they can guard each others' drops (since they're good friends) while PKing in high-level land where bluenames can't survive the mobs, or they can pass the hat around to pay for shatter-repair mirages.

    or else what they want to do isn't really PKing, it's some watered-down simile of PvP play... kindof like dueling, in a way, perhaps. whaddayaknow, you can duel almost anywhere, any time you want to! then you can even use bramble and whatnot, as well!

    Plus, we know how much PWE loves their money, and such an area would reduce scroll sales.

    that too. if there's any other explanation for why the arena's been shut down all these years, i can't imagine it.

    which means there's good news, this glitch likely WILL actually get fixed pretty soon, for the same reason the arena's still shut down... hopefully they'll think of some other way to get at those quest mobs before they shut down the SP. b:cute
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  • VenusArmani - Dreamweaver
    VenusArmani - Dreamweaver Posts: 6,009 Arc User
    edited September 2011
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    games like these have no rules, only mechanics. if it really would be forbiden, then you couldint attack players there (like in safe zone), but you can. somehow. you can kill even blue names. and theres even no penalties like item drops in there. you cant even become red after you kill somebody. you need to be stupid to not understand that this is PK area and it is for pk. how come rules and game mechanics are so different? never seen this in any game, but yea, I know PW is unique... looks like our GMs dont really know what they are doing.. or they just joking? or they just testing our loyality for their rules? would be nice to hear something from GMs about that. like "dear players, we did some bull**** here, so from now on you are able to kill anybody in SP, even blue names, but dont forget that it is bannable so dont enjoy this pleasure and freedom until we will fix it. you probably know that things usualy takes several years to fix here, because we are really busy with new cool updates (like motorbikes or this one), so just dont do that or we will ban you. thank you"

    and please dont tell me "its a glitch". a glitch exploiting. what a glitch - free to pk everything in certain area without panalties. what a coincidence...

    They are building you a PK area, this is not the PK area nor has it ever been and it's been bannable. You can mechanically walk over to a kindergarten and start bullying random people that can't possibly fight back against you there, you can mechanically steal all of the money and knock over the gameboard in monopoly if your losing that game. You can easily do a lot of things that are against the rules and not right. The whole "i can do it, so it must be okay," rhetoric is not at all an acceptable reason for anything even if it's just to harass people including other players who just want to enjoy a simple game. Your on lost city, the whole world is your PK spot. There is only one area for lowbies, leave em alone and let the come to the game. If you constantly bully new players, new people won't want to join and the game will die. That's a fact.

    Oh, and it is a glitch and it's obviously one. It's never been enabled before. They are trying to add an PK arena in there for you guys and accidentally turned it on for all of SP. it's so obvious its not even funny. If someone asks for a bh, just ignore them until someone else will help them. It's not like it's hurting you to let them complete their quest.
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  • Barunaa - Heavens Tear
    Barunaa - Heavens Tear Posts: 420 Arc User
    edited September 2011
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    Connect all the dots you like, doesnt mean jack if you scrawled allover the desk reaching the dots on the other book.


    please, stop posting. in 3 threads u have already proven to yourself that you have no idea what you are talking about.
  • VenoMKII - Harshlands
    VenoMKII - Harshlands Posts: 306 Arc User
    edited September 2011
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    please, stop posting. in 3 threads u have already proven to yourself that you have no idea what you are talking about.

    I swear im not a ****ing mirror...

    @Kritty

    Actually no. The current powerlevelling has jack to do with killing people in SP, nor the attitude to do with the quests there somehow granting you immunity from PvP despite the fact that you can ****ing kill people there.

    Find me a correlation. Good luck, because there isnt one, its been a great PvP spot since day 1.