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  • _Bloody_Fox_ - Sanctuary
    _Bloody_Fox_ - Sanctuary Posts: 993 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    What the hell is a gooner?
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  • Revenge - Raging Tide
    Revenge - Raging Tide Posts: 834 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    *facepalm*

    pwi must think the community is stupid >.>. 99% of people wouldn't spend as much time lvl'n (atleast the high end people who can actually do the glitch) during a x2 drop. theyd spend it farming for coin for most of the day then run a lvl'n instance for a lil bit as usual. gettin x13 exp rather than x12. big damn deal lmao. the only people who care about lvl in the first place are pk sins and people who love to boost their epeens by saying "im a higher lvl than you nabs". in otherwords, doesnt even matter anyway.

    should just turn x2 on regardless and hell make it a x3 drops just for makin us wait this long with so many bs reasons >.>
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  • Empu - Sanctuary
    Empu - Sanctuary Posts: 1,154 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    So if someone goons from 1 to 100, now he's 95. Oh noes!

    The ones that got to 100 are not the main problem, cause even without goons you can get an alt to 100 in less then 2 weeks. The goon glitch only has a significant change on 100+, because only then you won't be able to make 1 lvl in 1 day with 1 set of hypers. So who really cares about punishing those who glitched below 100.

    On the major issue imo are the ones that were 100+ and got to 105. Since they are mainly the heavy cashshoppers and tw-faction players, perma-ban is just unrealistic. A lvl reset would put them on a lvl lower then before glitch in most cases, and disable them to use their r9 stuff a few days.
  • Zenorx - Harshlands
    Zenorx - Harshlands Posts: 443 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    Frankie is pretending not to notice this thread
  • Zenorx - Harshlands
    Zenorx - Harshlands Posts: 443 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    Bump

    Frankie could you please at least give some kind of answer :S
  • Mrvate - Heavens Tear
    Mrvate - Heavens Tear Posts: 406 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    This couldn't even technically be called a bug exploit... You fight a boss that spawns more mobs around you that give exp... So you don't kill the boss and milk the exp killing only the mobs, its built into the code (unless there is something I am missing from the equation and haven't been told everything). A bug exploit would be something like we found a way to make rubber band give us 1kk exp everytime it happens... There is kind of a small difference.

    you've definetly not been told everything, if anyone doing ff glitch does not think its glitching. they're ********.
  • Evict - Heavens Tear
    Evict - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,301 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    So I heard not having 2x drops stopped people from hitting 105.
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  • DaKillanator - Raging Tide
    DaKillanator - Raging Tide Posts: 2,965 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    *facepalm*

    pwi must think the community is stupid >.>. 99% of people wouldn't spend as much time lvl'n (atleast the high end people who can actually do the glitch) during a x2 drop. theyd spend it farming for coin for most of the day then run a lvl'n instance for a lil bit as usual. gettin x13 exp rather than x12. big damn deal lmao. the only people who care about lvl in the first place are pk sins and people who love to boost their epeens by saying "im a higher lvl than you nabs". in otherwords, doesnt even matter anyway.

    should just turn x2 on regardless and hell make it a x3 drops just for makin us wait this long with so many bs reasons >.>

    He's so spot on right here it isn't even funny. Everything he said is 100% correct. The irony is that x2 drops would cause people to not abuse the glitch.
  • ZeaKuro - Raging Tide
    ZeaKuro - Raging Tide Posts: 631 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    So, I don't know if this has been said or not already so I will go ahead and post it.

    Rolling back the lvls wont work. Say someone gooned to level 102/103 and bought R9, rolling back the level would take them under the required level for that gear, but you can't take the gear away from them at the same time. So in reality rolling the levels isn't going to work.

    Banning isn't really going to work either because it will be impossible to catch everyone that has got levels with gooning. People that derp on the forums "I never gooned, I just became really dedicated and FCed a lot......" or people from well known factions will be easy to spot. However, because a lot of people will be over looked simply because they're not well known would make it unfair to ban some and not others just for being more active/well known.

    There is really nothing that can be done to those that have already gooned their way to 105, the best thing to do is patch the glitch which PWI is already working on. A fix would actually be rather simple..... Just take the same code that resets mobs when entering hands room and use it at the door leaving goon room so glitch can never happen.

    As was stated previously in this thread, 2x event actually wont change anything. You can use silk worm to achieve the same effect and if anything the 2x drops will get people out of FC.
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  • Zenorx - Harshlands
    Zenorx - Harshlands Posts: 443 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    No one's being ignored

    Sure...
  • Sanctimonia - Lost City
    Sanctimonia - Lost City Posts: 7 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    Actually Shelly that's highly incorrect for all public around itself.

    you say you all have top priority for these glitches, ok I'll admit one thing on here... every mod, admin, community as well as devs needs to start fixing every single and very much little things.

    if the case of this guy saying promised of this thing... there should be a promise that actually " NEEDS TO BE KEPT! " and not broken....unless you are absolutely a fool?

    Oooh wait....devs are the fools of this entire game because they don't wanna lose that much on things....well guess what? " EVERYTHING ISN'T PERFECT! " so in this case....either turn it on... or just shut up about the x2's when you say promise and never happens.

    Don't promise something if you can't keep it, otherwise we don't wanna hear every ones bs, that's all most of you are, who just do this and do that and cannot even fix the god-forsaken server at all, Also you're letting all these scammer's get away with stealing people's, items and not doing anything about it, when they are using a **** device to make people drop their items, so that they can steal them and instead of punishing them, you make the victim's feel stupid and let the scammer get away with murder.

    If you do not know how to fix the god-forsaken server then hell...find a professional to fix it for you and not waste money and time for freaken parts!

    same goes for the x2's who gives a rats rear end if its unfair for the chinese...this is america get the hell use to it!

    Start having GM's on the in-game 24/7 otherwise you will see more decease drop rate from this game when people leave out of you not doing your jobs right!

    All you are doing is destroying the game, and the more you do the more people will leave, so just stop it...and do the rightful thing, and fix this bs!

    I assume you forget that the american team can't do anything about fixing the server as if i remember correctly they aren't allowed to change anything with the coding of this game as its technically rented (The game code i mean) it was only localised as im sure not many europeans and americans can speak mandarin b:chuckle So they have to be sent the fixes so both versions of the game are running smoothly and everyone is on the same page.

    Yes there maybe problems the games 3 years old and it WASN'T developed here. Localisation is going to take a while PWI is not complete and probably never will be, but that is the descision YOU made when you started playing. So stop QQing and let them work and do what they are good at and you find another hobby.

    If you think you can fix all the problems they have a career section. Throw in your resume/Curriculum Vitea im sure they can have someone with your....skills.....
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  • Razorburn - Dreamweaver
    Razorburn - Dreamweaver Posts: 188 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    I really like the thing about taking 5 levels away for abusing the glitch, I think 10 would be even better. Obviously it would make some people have to level back up the right way and not use their equipts for a short time but oh well, they probably shouldnt have broke the rules anyways
  • Barunaa - Heavens Tear
    Barunaa - Heavens Tear Posts: 420 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    I really like the thing about taking 5 levels away for abusing the glitch, I think 10 would be even better. Obviously it would make some people have to level back up the right way and not use their equipts for a short time but oh well, they probably shouldnt have broke the rules anyways

    are u insane? how about taking away ALLLLLL of the leves they gained from the glitch? its only fair. someone that levels from 1-105 by glitching the game then taking away 5 levels for them to still be 100 and for them to have still profited from this glitch is stupid. revert there ***** back to level 1 then give them a 2 week ban.

    its honestly not fair for the ppl that has levelged legitly and did not abuse this glitch. ones its fixed/patched u will have 200+ lvl 105s that got there in less then 3 weeks or so where as everyone else have to spend 6+ months to get to 105. this is why just temp banning these ppl is not enought. they HAVE to have ALL the levels they gained from this glitch reverted.

    and if thats not possible then they have to be perm banned. the damage has been done and the only thing that will fix it is a perma ban or a COMPLETE level reversion. temp banning wont do anything cuz after a week or 2 they will be unbanned and they will still be 105 -_-

    if i had a choice to become 105 in less then 2 weeks but in exchange i get banned for 1 week id take it because id still have my 105 character after the unbanning. do u see why its not enough now?
  • _Ghoul_ - Lost City
    _Ghoul_ - Lost City Posts: 973 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    hah i am fine why 101 cant be happier cos i have my r9 b:chuckle anything is is plain dumb waste of my time unless now skill gear come out.

    lving for no reason and using glitch ble who cares they get 20 more point then i get woot what like 20 more vit point yeah i sure gone feel op nowb:chuckle.

    gm bring r10 plz so i can be nr1 r10 barb in server b:thanks
  • Pandramada - Sanctuary
    Pandramada - Sanctuary Posts: 9 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    The reasoning is perfectly logical, though, if they increase the EXP, Spirit and possibly drop rate before the Chinese team fixes the Goons glitch, it would make for an extremely unfair situation to the rest of the community. FC/FF Glitch is currently on top priority to the team, so it's understandable.


    lol! thats a riot, considering that Ive seen advertisements in world chat people selling levels 1-100 in as little as an hour. explain to me please how throwing 1x more xp into the mix makes them weary?

    you know if pwe was serious about being worried about the effect this has had on community impact they would have removed the quest to spawn that boss as soon as they found out about it. that would be an immediate temporary fix which would have been welcomed by much more of the community than shunned by it. afterall what would have been worse? losing the possibility of aquiring a sincerity chest, or going from 1 lvl 105 to 150+ lvl 105s in a months time?

    yea good game pw, and great excuses.
  • TnTn - Sanctuary
    TnTn - Sanctuary Posts: 46 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    gotta agree..

    If they wanted it fixed would just disable the guy that spawns the boss


    not hard right?
  • krittycat
    krittycat Posts: 4,187 Community Moderator
    edited August 2011
    gotta agree..

    If they wanted it fixed would just disable the guy that spawns the boss


    not hard right?

    They can't touch the code (which would involve that) without permission from the Chinese devs.

    Spawning things like bosses doesn't affect actual gameplay, so it's allowed.
  • Noriliza - Sanctuary
    Noriliza - Sanctuary Posts: 82 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    Apparently it's harder than localization changes and server updates, of which we've had at least 3 patches worth since the dropping of the goons bomb...

    Maybe this will put it into perspective for them (if they truly even care) a certain someone (sorry mods and gm's who want to ban them, it's your naming and shaming rule) told me they paid 20m to take them from 90-101 and they told me they we're getting 13-16m xp per spawn....lol, and they're worried about 2x xp
    KrittyCat wrote: »
    They can't touch the code (which would involve that) without permission from the Chinese devs.

    If thats the case were all screwed cause apparently their big fix was to deactivate hypers if Im not mistaken(which if I am who cares its all irrelevant anyways)...rocket science at its best
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  • TnTn - Sanctuary
    TnTn - Sanctuary Posts: 46 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    KrittyCat wrote: »
    They can't touch the code (which would involve that) without permission from the Chinese devs.

    Spawning things like bosses doesn't affect actual gameplay, so it's allowed.

    so what your saying the pigeon not got to china yet.
  • Kagizyu - Heavens Tear
    Kagizyu - Heavens Tear Posts: 319 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    so what your saying the pigeon not got to china yet.

    No hedwig ran into the pacific ocean.
  • toast223
    toast223 Posts: 62 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    frankie took vacation to make you all wait longer for the compensation lol
  • Teiw - Sanctuary
    Teiw - Sanctuary Posts: 170 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    KrittyCat wrote: »
    They can't touch the code (which would involve that) without permission from the Chinese devs.

    Spawning things like bosses doesn't affect actual gameplay, so it's allowed.


    I deeply appreciate the explanation. I was wondering for a good long time why they didn't remove the 3rd fcc boss, remove/nerf the xp value of the goons, or shutdown fcc altogether X3.

    I guess if PWI was made over here, we'd be able to do something about the glitch alot faster.


    Yes I am bummed out we can't change the code (even for a little bit) or take matters into our own hands. But at least now I can stop asking "Why don't the just remove the boss or the mobs?".
  • Bearish - Sanctuary
    Bearish - Sanctuary Posts: 264 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    say, why dont u tell the chinese to fix the delta bridge glitch too, people farming frags like crazy nahm sayin
  • Noriliza - Sanctuary
    Noriliza - Sanctuary Posts: 82 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    I deeply appreciate the explanation.

    Thats not an explanation, sorry, an explanation would be "we cant change the code without chinese approval, which we have asked and they have said no for such and such reason" but Im guessing they havent asked, or did and the chinese said sure and they didnt do it, either way I see no real explanation, and why did they not take the same measures that china did when they found out about it?
    say, why dont u tell the chinese to fix the delta bridge glitch too, people farming frags like crazy nahm sayin


    yea right thats why they are still 150k each on sanctuary....that would also explain the sudden influx of pan gus for sale....
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  • Tremblewith - Heavens Tear
    Tremblewith - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,558 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    Knock, knock, knock.

    Who's there?

    Reality.

    Reality who?

    Reality of this game never getting fixed (goons), so no compensation will exist.

    Oh, come on in!
  • TnTn - Sanctuary
    TnTn - Sanctuary Posts: 46 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    how long since the goon glitch?

    When u found said glitch did you ask china

    What was the answer to question #2


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