Will this Plvling method work?

Hungwang - Lost City_1333950407 · August 2011

If a high lvl player (like lvl 105) brings me to level 90+ mobs and just grind there, how much exp would I get? or is there a level limit?

hanfknolle · August 2011

Level 20 to 50 works well in one FC runn (Full Run) and dont forget hyper b:chuckleb:chuckle

Hungwang - Lost City_1333950407 · August 2011

hanfknolle wrote: »

Level 20 to 50 works well in one FC runn (Full Run) and dont forget hyper b:chuckleb:chuckle

Yeah i'll do that too, but I'm just wondering, will the said method work too? Like if a lvl 1 was brought to lvl 90 mobs, will the lvl 1 get good exp?

Nowitsawn - Heavens Tear · August 2011

The mobs must be around the same level as the pleveler. It does work, kind of (assuming you use hypers, else it's a waste of time). Until about level 30 after which you get more exp from hyper grinding by yourself.

You could try finding a cleric to squad with while he AoE grinds on spiders. Shouldn't be too hard, since he makes money off of drops and you get exp by just hanging around.

Though, if you're that bent on pleveling anyway, then just pay for an FF run (and don't tell me that it's too expensive, if you can't afford it you shouldn't be pleveling in the first place).

Daedallus - Sanctuary · August 2011

Yes, and you can be a lvl 105 noob soon b:bye

Hungwang - Lost City_1333950407 · August 2011

Lol alright cool cool Thanks. It's hyper time.

Lythianaa - Dreamweaver · August 2011

Daedallus - Sanctuary wrote: »

Yes, and you can be a lvl 105 noob soon b:bye

QFT, unless you already know how to play your class.

Mekkhala - Lost City · August 2011

Lythianaa - Dreamweaver wrote: »

QFT, unless you already know how to play your class.

If they're having to ask whether they'll get good exp from higher lvls helping them, they're probably new to the game.

I knew exp was drastically reduced by higher lvls by the time my first char was 3x....

JanusZeal - Heavens Tear · August 2011

Mekkhala - Lost City wrote: »

If they're having to ask whether they'll get good exp from higher lvls helping them, they're probably new to the game.

I knew exp was drastically reduced by higher lvls by the time my first char was 3x....

You should have him round up a bunch of Jaden Qingfu's and hyper zhen those. That's the best XP you can ever get.

Mekkhala - Lost City · August 2011

JanusZeal - Heavens Tear wrote: »

You should have him round up a bunch of Jaden Qingfu's and hyper zhen those. That's the best XP you can ever get.

Ill charge him 300k per beetle pull b:chuckle

SylenThunder - Twilight Temple · August 2011

Mekkhala - Lost City wrote: »

If they're having to ask whether they'll get good exp from higher lvls helping them, they're probably new to the game.

I knew exp was drastically reduced by higher lvls by the time my first char was 3x....

If they are that new to the game, powerleveling is just going to make another high-level noob that we don't want.

Olbaze - Sanctuary · August 2011

Um...

No, it won't really work.

At least not in normal grinding.

The exp formula has a scaler according to levels. For example, take the following setting:

1. Level 1 character
2. Level 100 character in party
3. this mob
4. x12 Hypers

Now, the formula will look like this, for the level 1 character:

511 * 1 * ((0.8 + 0.2*2)/2) * (1/100) * 12 =
511 * 0.6 * 0.01 * 12 =
511 * 0.06 * 12 =
511 * 0.72 =
367

So the level 1 character would be getting 367 exp per mob. Let's say that the level 100 can kill a good 300 of these mobs in an hour. Now you'll be looking at a minimum of 110,100 experience for that one hour of grinding. This would be enough to get the level 1 character up to level 18.

And that's not really worth the money. And for the record, it only gets worse.

In fact, it's pretty easy to make an estimate whether doing this would be worth it or not, ignoring buying heads or doing alt FCCs or soloing FCCs, in comparison to just grinding on your own.

Michael_Dark - Lost City · August 2011

Olbaze - Sanctuary wrote: »

Um...

No, it won't really work.

At least not in normal grinding.

The exp formula has a scaler according to levels. For example, take the following setting:

1. Level 1 character
2. Level 100 character in party
3. this mob
4. x12 Hypers

Now, the formula will look like this, for the level 1 character:

511 * 1 * ((0.8 + 0.2*2)/2) * (1/100) * 12 =
511 * 0.6 * 0.01 * 12 =
511 * 0.06 * 12 =
511 * 0.72 =
367

So the level 1 character would be getting 367 exp per mob. Let's say that the level 100 can kill a good 300 of these mobs in an hour. Now you'll be looking at a minimum of 110,100 experience for that one hour of grinding. This would be enough to get the level 1 character up to level 18.

And that's not really worth the money. And for the record, it only gets worse.

In fact, it's pretty easy to make an estimate whether doing this would be worth it or not, ignoring buying heads or doing alt FCCs or soloing FCCs, in comparison to just grinding on your own.

^ this.

However, it will work with elite mobs... You get some pretty good EXP from the mobs inside 3-3.

Olbaze - Sanctuary · August 2011

Michael_Dark - Lost City wrote: »

^ this.

However, it will work with elite mobs... You get some pretty good EXP from the mobs inside 3-3.

There are two factors that can make it worth it in comparison to solo grinding on x12. One being the higher killing speed of a higher level, which will obviously multiply all the exp you get. Then there's the higher additional base experience.

Sarrafeline - Sanctuary · August 2011

I tried this with my Sin (92) and Psy (was 23).

I used 1 hour of 12x hypers on Psy, and used the Spiders that drop lots of DQ (Lethal Arenid Sharpfang). 50 minutes of 12X got my Psy from 23 to 33, with a break in the middle for Culti and FB29.

I think there needs to be some perspective on this...

A level 1 character only gets 300-some exp hypered while a level 100 mob is killed while in squad with a level 100 character.

But, how much exp does a level 1 character need to level? Leveling seemed to speed up as my character leveled, so not a big deal there.

rgog · August 2011

Don't forget the zero risk of dying. I think at 12x hyper you will do well.

Psytrac - Dreamweaver · August 2011

lvl 90 sin, lvl (now) 7 seeker, lvl 101 mobs, seeker leveled every 3 or 4 mobs killed

Aizza - Harshlands · August 2011

HungWang - Lost City wrote: »

If a high lvl player (like lvl 105) brings me to level 90+ mobs and just grind there, how much exp would I get? or is there a level limit?

I have alts I started out at lvl 1 and in a week they are 40+ with cultis done. I've had alot of fun, met alot of cool people.

Sure the temptation to jump on my sin and plvl them is there, but then what.

I know the peer pressure exists to get strong - quick.. but strength is not found in level... Never was...

Asterelle - Sanctuary_1381265973 · August 2011

Olbaze - Sanctuary wrote: »

Um...

No, it won't really work.

At least not in normal grinding.

The exp formula has a scaler according to levels. For example, take the following setting:

1. Level 1 character
2. Level 100 character in party
3. this mob
4. x12 Hypers

Now, the formula will look like this, for the level 1 character:

511 * 1 * ((0.8 + 0.2*2)/2) * (1/100) * 12 =
511 * 0.6 * 0.01 * 12 =
511 * 0.06 * 12 =
511 * 0.72 =
367

So the level 1 character would be getting 367 exp per mob. Let's say that the level 100 can kill a good 300 of these mobs in an hour. Now you'll be looking at a minimum of 110,100 experience for that one hour of grinding. This would be enough to get the level 1 character up to level 18.

And that's not really worth the money. And for the record, it only gets worse.

In fact, it's pretty easy to make an estimate whether doing this would be worth it or not, ignoring buying heads or doing alt FCCs or soloing FCCs, in comparison to just grinding on your own.

You totally forgot that the level 1 char will increase in level.
After one mob the char will hit level 3 and start earning about 1100 xp per mob.
Another mob after that the char will hit level 5 and start earning 1800 xp per mob.
The next mob will get the char to level 6, etc.

You only get a dismal return in the early levels but those levels are passed very quickly.

Olbaze - Sanctuary · August 2011

Asterelle - Sanctuary wrote: »

You totally forgot that the level 1 char will increase in level.
After one mob the char will hit level 3 and start earning about 1100 xp per mob.
Another mob after that the char will hit level 5 and start earning 1800 xp per mob.
The next mob will get the char to level 6, etc.

You only get a dismal return in the early levels but those levels are passed very quickly.

Indeed, I ignored that and instead went for the absolute minimum amount of experience.

Mainly because actually finding out what happens is much more trouble than it's worth.

OIdpop - Heavens Tear · August 2011

while back when wifey decided to make a mystic.We wentto the desert and i killed the mobs,hyper 1-25 in close to a hour just to see how it went..after that day i never did it again because it was boring as hell and i was missing out on nirvana runs b:chuckle

StormHydra - Sanctuary · August 2011

Or you could try...hmm..i dont know...maybe..PLAYING THE GAME?

This is why this game is dying

FruityMelons - Heavens Tear · August 2011

90 Minutes in an FF... Level 101 Sin, Level 1 Barb. 12x Hypers. Level attained: Low 50s

90 more minutes in an FF with same two toons, level attained: Low 60s.

So, is it worth it? Only if you've already leveled that class NORMALLY.

Nothing worse than a 100 sin that doesn't rib strike, 100 bm that doesn't HF or 100 cleric that never purifies... and the list goes on.

If you don't know the answers to questions such as "what is a good way to powerlevel?" then you should probably not powerlevel.

nickkido · August 2011

StormHydra - Sanctuary wrote: »

Or you could try...hmm..i dont know...maybe..PLAYING THE GAME?

This is why this game is dying

and here i thought it was Aids.....

StormHydra - Sanctuary · August 2011

FruityMelons - Heavens Tear wrote: »

If you don't know the answers to questions such as "what is a good way to powerlevel?" then you should probably not powerlevel.

This.

TCHP - Lost City · August 2011

yes there is a limit on how much exp you can gain from higher level mob.

There are also other factor like the average level of the team.

But if you search the pwidatabase, you can find that you will get like only 15% exp from a monster 15lv higher the your toons.

Only way around this is hyper, or martial scroll I guess.

Daedallus - Sanctuary · August 2011

I satrted a new Mystic a few days ago.

I went from 1 to 19 in a couple of hours without any hypers... just doing the quests

Why would you want to plvl anyway?

Sarrafeline - Sanctuary · August 2011

Daedallus - Sanctuary wrote: »

I satrted a new Mystic a few days ago.

I went from 1 to 19 in a couple of hours without any hypers... just doing the quests

Why would you want to plvl anyway?

Personally, I don't really WANT to.

It's more a question of "I've done level 20-60 TWELVE TIMES NOW, do I REALLY want to do it AGAIN?" I also enjoy overgearing my characters for their levels, then enjoying the level they are currently at. However, my Psy can share armor but not weapons, making it somewhat expensive at current to overgear for levels 20-60. >_> I can farm TT1-1 through 2-1 myself for TT weapons, so personally, I'd rather do a bit of a mix of power leveling, and playing some levels myself.

My nub archer, on the other hand, has Moonlight Bow (2 sockets, +3), Lightcatcher (2 sockets, +4), Sinister Shooter (needs another socket and refines, will come shortly), a MOLD MADE The Penetrator (2 sockets, +5, needs new shards QQ), Solarslayer (2 sockets, +3), Wind and Clouds (2 sockets, +4), and a Unicorn (2 sockets, +3). This character I will be leveling on quests alone, no BH's, no CS, just pure, old, quests. I will set aside 5 days JUST for this character once she hits 23, and I will RAMBO very rapidly to 65. Once she hits 80, I even have a TT80 Slingshot with 2 sockets and refines, and a Windcatcher at 88. XD Why do I have all of this weaponry for Archer? And none of it is from Divine Orders, BTW. It's ALL left over from my first Archer, who went Sage. I want a Demon Archer.

I'm undecided if I want to keep this impressive array of Archer weaponry, or if I want to sell it all after I'm done with it. Most of it I either got as drops, The Penetrator mold was given to me as a gift, I got Moonlight Bow mold for 500k... I've had the two bows for ~2 years now. The sentimental value and them having my name on them means something to me... So I'm not sure if I want to part with them, or maybe give Penetrator to my BM, and Moonlight Bow to my Barb.

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