Nixes and PvP

kitaoujix
kitaoujix Posts: 34 Arc User
edited September 2011 in Venomancer
So recently I've acquired my herc, and finally started making some money. So I'm saving up... but for what I'm still not sure... I thought "Hey maybe I should save up for the nix, it will definetly help me in TWs and PvP" but then a friend of mine told me "If you do make that much money, you should get R8 on your Psychic."

So that got me thinking... Psychic is probably one of my favourites after the Veno, and it was always my plan to be able to make money for it. (I mean, c'mon who doesn't dream about R9 psy with decent refines?) And after my friend said that I started wondering... and also asking some Venos about their nixes. However I'm still pretty much stuck in the same place...
Apparently nixes aren't as good as they used to be in PvP... an aps person is able to kill the nix in seconds... My friend told me that a Psychic with retaliation on will most likely be able to counter an assassin's surprise attack, because most sins will open with a move that will try to stun you. I still haven't learnt how to counter it with my veno... considering she's AA and everything... I haven't just tested it cuz I'm always busy doing other stuff. But I'm wondering, are sins really so stupid that they will open with a stun when a Psy has retaliation on? I mean, do they fall for that? Regardless of the answer I suppose they will learn with time... However I seem to be only thinking about Psychic, Assassin and Veno... when there are other classes and when it is obvious you'll kill some with less effort than others, so in general... would a R8 psy with let's say... +4/5 refines, be THAT good or I'm just putting it on a pedestal?

A nix, on the other hand, would get killed in 1,2 seconds by an aps person... (Boo I think I'm limiting everything to the purpose of killing a Sin O.o) and it's true that nixes aren't as good in PvP as they used to be... but I'm still from the time where Nixed Venos were actually feared... and a Nixed Veno is a Nixed Veno, it's that sort of thing you've wanted to be since you started a Veno on pwi, you know what I mean?
Are nixes still good or they just simply suck?
However it costs a lot... (lol and to think that I used to find 40mil a lot in the old times) and I just don't want to throw away that money, specially considering it does go very slowly now with herc.

Which one would be the best/your option? (Please take the whole general aspects in mind, because I'm obviously being too narrow minded on killing sins and I do want to know how it would be with other classes in general)

WTB> Pet Refines b:surrender
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  • Caramell - Harshlands
    Caramell - Harshlands Posts: 18 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    So a nix can kill r8 arcane classes alone if they dont know what to do and are not able to stop bleed. that are like 70% of the r8 arcane ppl on my server.^^ Against ha ppl nix is not rly usefull the stun is nice but your veno need a good wep too be able to kill the bm or whoever. But a good r8 psy who know how to play is better then a non r8 veno with a nix.
    I think if you let the r8 psy fight against a tt gear veno with nix the psy will win because he can use his skill to reflect bleed and the veno is 1 or 2 shot then.

    Well also always depends what the veno does if she para nova him befor or if she use bramble or feral or stack it.

    Well i think you should choose the class you think you can handle better.

    And btw most ppl dont attack the nix first they try to reach you and kill. Some cleric try to kill nix during they sleep me but most of the time nix killed them befor, or my sleep ends.^^
  • SNuppzH - Harshlands
    SNuppzH - Harshlands Posts: 36 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    A veno always wil do more dg then her pet..if u not have all points on vit and 10-10 magic atk ofc..XD

    Most nixes are 1-2 hits on this server..so if u relay on ur pet..u wil be horrible pker..XD skill are important- and gear..refine ur gear and wep..xD and u wil have no prob pking

    >_>. well r9s can 1 hit u if they have +12 wep..XD use brabale hood angst em :D so u live longer.

    well when it comes 2 pk..u don't rly need nix 2 pk.. but it has good skills.. like stun + claw buff..realy nice..

    When its come 2 end game is nix's skils more important then the nix itself xD..bleed,howl..
    ..but srly its boring if pet had kiled ur taged before u make hit it..>_>*
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
    SNuppzH lvl 101 Sage Venomancer.
  • Crescendia - Harshlands
    Crescendia - Harshlands Posts: 805 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    SNuppzH - Harshlands wrote: »
    A veno always will do more damage then her pet..if u not have all points on vit and 10-10 magic atk ofc..XD

    Most nixes are 1-2 hits on this server..so if u relay on ur pet..u will be horrible pker..XD skill are important- and gear..refine ur gear and wep..xD and u will have no prob pking

    >_>. well r9s can 1 hit u if they have +12 wep..XD use bramble hood angst em :D so u live longer.

    well when it comes 2 pk..u don't rly need nix 2 pk.. but it has good skills.. like stun + claw buff..realy nice..

    When its come 2 end game is nix's skils more important then the nix itself xD..bleed,howl..
    But not so much..but srly its boring if pet had kiled ur taged before u make hit it..>_>*

    Pretty much this ^
    Originally Posted by Curses - Harshlands

    Sidenote: hilarious name for a boat: "Yeah Buoy".

    b:laughb:laugh
  • Ryn_White - Harshlands
    Ryn_White - Harshlands Posts: 3 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    Yeah,Nix can Kill very easy a rank 8 ..But vs HA wear u cant do much ...Ofc a nix is very helpfull vs rank 9 Arcane wearing too ..Like Clerics ..But vs HA users the better way is debuff them with ur nix,like Howl,Bleed Etc ...I'll take an example vs BM --> Howl them,Myriad etc ...then stun and nuke them ..very easy..
  • Sparklecat - Harshlands
    Sparklecat - Harshlands Posts: 47 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    A nix is good agaonst most pure AA classes (like r8 cleric) basically you just have to know how to use ur pet to your advantage. i still dont have a nix yet (working on it but its kinda expensive on my server). 4 aps sins and bms will kill ur nix in seconds b:cry (i try to stun them after they demon spark b:chuckle) but yea it depends on how you use your nix basically
  • Ryn_White - Harshlands
    Ryn_White - Harshlands Posts: 3 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    Sparklecat - Harshlands wrote: »
    A nix is good agaonst most pure AA classes (like r8 cleric) basically you just have to know how to use ur pet to your advantage. i still dont have a nix yet (working on it but its kinda expensive on my server). 4 aps sins and bms will kill ur nix in seconds b:cry (i try to stun them after they demon spark b:chuckle) but yea it depends on how you use your nix basically


    Vs APS sins and bms ...i'll give you some example how to kill them easy

    Vs BM aps --> send pet,bleed them ..run up and control your pet ...waste his Speedy buff ..after it they starting use the other speedy buff that need 1 spark ..ok..Demon summer sprint + purge + amplify damage or if needed Demon Crush vigor (for recovery 1 spark and drain ur enemy chi) and Myriad (Aoe) then change back to human form --> myriad (human) (hope proc magic defence nuke) lucky scarab --> Demon Frost Scarab --> venomous scarab --> ironwood scarab ...and they're died ..even with charm tick they'll die cause 0% magic defence of myriad debuff ...(This strategy work without bramble Hood and with any Pet) ...

    PS. if they forget to re-up Magic Marrow they'll die much more easy ...b:chuckle


    Vs Sin ...Ok put ur pet to defence Mode and ready to Click Expel or AD on ur genie ...after they out by stealth,use on of the 2 skills that i said ...and ready up to click very fast Demon Summer sprint and purge+run ...change back to human form and use Vacuilty powder (Apocathery Pot) and spam them lucky scarab --> frost scarab --> ironwood --> venomous etc etc ...Anyway the best way for kill a sin is Expel,Absolute Domain,Vacuilty wpder,Demon summer sprint ...for stay away by Stuns,Root,etc etc ...
  • SNuppzH - Harshlands
    SNuppzH - Harshlands Posts: 36 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    2 kil bms or barbs i just use brable hood, debuff-amfy-soul(reduse 20% hp) wile stued by nix...in human howl+bleed..lucky...ironwood...veno scrab... til they die..XD if they gona use stun i ad..>_> it works also..but im sageb:chuckle demon got way more stuns
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
    SNuppzH lvl 101 Sage Venomancer.
  • kitaoujix
    kitaoujix Posts: 34 Arc User
    edited September 2011
    I suppose you just have pick whatever you prefer then :P
    I like venos, but I like my psychic as well x) However I plan on making my veno higher lvl and my main... So I guess giving her a nix would be a good option :)
    It also depends on the players anyway.... Yesterday I defeated a barb and I was using herc. (Nope, he didn't suicide on bramble... I did it to buy time and then kited a bit... but it was a duel anyway so it's always different)

    thank you all for your suggestions :)

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