Attack lvl / Def lvl / Vit Stones ?

Immune - Harshlands
Immune - Harshlands Posts: 17 Arc User
edited August 2011 in Assassin
hi guys i m confused with sharding on my sin, can any1 help me out?

http://pwcalc.com/fbd4ad1edbba1a08

check it out and notify me if i need to make changes on it b:victory
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  • Ashivas - Dreamweaver
    Ashivas - Dreamweaver Posts: 1,293 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    If youre going R9 you dont want a lot of HP. GoF will just hurt you more. I'd go def levels honestly. R9 damage is already absurdly high. Just get josd's to help tank and stuff =3
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  • Razorburn - Dreamweaver
    Razorburn - Dreamweaver Posts: 188 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    Peoples ideas will vary alot but honestly if you can get to 15k life eventually through refines than I see no reason why a mixture of attack an defense shards wouldnt be acceptable.
    Not sure you can ever have enough of either.
  • Immune - Harshlands
    Immune - Harshlands Posts: 17 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    wat do u think abt this: http://pwcalc.com/fbd4ad1edbba1a08
  • _Skai_ - Raging Tide
    _Skai_ - Raging Tide Posts: 3,407 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    Both links are the same Immune.


    Also sharding 2 G12, or even 2 G11 garnets in your weapon would provide a better overall DPS because of the multiplicative property of dexterity.

    I'm also assuming you're a sage sin, since you have Celestial Eruption on. Most sage sins shard either full DoT or Vit stones, as they already get a lot of defense through sage spark. Since your build has R9 daggers, I'd say go full DoT, and 2 G11/G12 garnets in weapon.
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  • Empu - Sanctuary
    Empu - Sanctuary Posts: 1,154 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    First of all, what do you want to do, which culti are you, and what budget do you have?

    Some situations (all disregarding budget):
    If you are sage (you did put on sage spark): best would be to go att lvl everywhere. With that gear you will be able to solo pretty much all bosses, like TT3-3. Maybe if you really plan on soloing the though wb on regular basis, put JoSD in the vana hat + leggings. Togather with having both blessings, you can get a good def lvl + sage spark.

    If you are demon, wether you want to solo or not would probably influence your sharding more (I'm sage myself btw, so this is not 100% accurate). If you always have a cleric, maybe going full DoT will be worth it. Besides, you can always get that 15 def lvl/15 att lvl blessing if needed. However, I think JoSD in hat + leggings (the rest is not high grade enough), and vit stones in 1 to 3 other armor parts, would be more reasonable.

    On a side note : plz get rid of those DoT in weapon (put garnets) and that crit arrow. Also, I think only self-buffs is a more objective look on things. You won't always be running around with all buffs, and even then you can get purged.
  • Immune - Harshlands
    Immune - Harshlands Posts: 17 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    what abt pvm i need def lvl to absorb some dmg right cuz ill have only 10k hp
    cant solo tt 3-3 bosses with such low def

    what abt that?
  • Sakubatou - Sanctuary
    Sakubatou - Sanctuary Posts: 4,001 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    If youre going R9 you dont want a lot of HP. GoF will just hurt you more. I'd go def levels honestly. R9 damage is already absurdly high. Just get josd's to help tank and stuff =3

    Lol, so you should avoid adding hp because for every 100 hp added you'll lose 5 hp on a zerk proc, despite vit stones adding to defense also? I don't disagree with your conclusion that JoSD are better, but the reasoning...

    Also, I want to punch a kitten in the back of the head everytime someone shards DoT's in a weapon. Pretty sure average garnets give about the same damage increase for 30k.

    This looks like a fantasy build being posted by a lvl 82 wizard but anyway, I think the split DoT/other shards is the best way to go. As stated JoSD will give you the best survivability AFTER you have a good base defense and good base hp as well as survivability not being effected by GoF proc as much. Also, the difference between reducing dmg 2% (20 hp/1000dmg) means that's 20% less paint has to heal to return your health.

    Vit stones I think are slightly underestimated because of sins low LA defenses. Vit stones would add defenses as well as hp. I'd use if you are looking at under 10k hp or feel your defenses are weak. Vit stones would add 130 hp and 1/15th your base defense. If you have JoSD and 10k hp thats "like" 200 hp.

    DoT has its benefits because for a sin dmg output=survivability. The only drawback is most sins use the Jones blessing for 30 attack levels and if using the R9 weapon thats 60 attack levels. Not to mention 2 piece Nirvana +5 attack level bonus, so 65 attack levels there. Any +1 attack level shards would be reduced too much (imo) to really be useful. DoTs have more of a use when not paired with R9.

    Honestly, G12 cape and G12 TT99 can take vit stones/garnets, G15 can take JoSDs would be the best for pve and pvp if using R9.
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  • Empu - Sanctuary
    Empu - Sanctuary Posts: 1,154 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    My normal build : http://pwcalc.com/47fbb54086dc0b52
    Allows to tank pretty much everything, and solo a lot. Like said before, I'm sage too.

    When I solo harder bosses : http://pwcalc.com/e03cd55c465f6e92
    I also got a cube necklace from my cleric, but that one isn't refined to +10 yet. Don't forget you can easily trade off 15 att lvls for 15 def lvls with the new blessing through facebook connect. I always got both on my sin.

    Putting in JoSD where you can (which is a maximum of 8) will be only worth it if you plan on soloing wb and 3-3 on a daily base. You won't need them, but it might save you a few crab meat/pots per run (probably only on doggy). However, most of the time you'll be better off with extra att lvls then with def lvls on a boss that barely scratches you anyway.
  • Immune - Harshlands
    Immune - Harshlands Posts: 17 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    well

    i want pvp and pvm abit to solo tt 3-3 bosses

    i can spend till 3.5b-4b
  • SinFulGodX - Sanctuary
    SinFulGodX - Sanctuary Posts: 347 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    well

    i want pvp and pvm abit to solo tt 3-3 bosses

    i can spend till 3.5b-4b

    http://pwcalc.com/e86a5e1124504ae5

    lol