While we're talking about clerics...

Short Answer: Yes. I have.

I was running bh59 one time. I was around level 73. The cleric was level 63. Things were going pretty good so far until we got to Zimo. The level 63 cleric puts up BB. Fine with me, (Even though Zimo doesn't require BB). I then proceed to start debuffing Zimo, and go on the offensive since the other cleric is healing using BB. I notice that the clerics mp is depleting, and not being refilled. I'm still DD'ing, debuffing, and using a few IH's here and there. Then one of the DD's die. I quickly press the revive button. Then the impossible happens...The second cleric got it in his head to DROP BB, and press his revive...knowing that I'm already reviving, and my own revive is maxed. I'm hoping that he'll press escape and go to healing since I already started ressing, and since there is no true tank in the squad, they require more frequent healing. He doesn't. I finish revivng, and try to heal. Then the "tank" dies. Others die as well, including myself, and the second cleric. Basically squad wipe. I carry res scrolls with me though, so I revive, and get ready to revive the squad. The second cleric says to me "Nice Job Cleric". I revive the squad, then check the name to address the issue. I look, and realize that its the second cleric that said it.

I ask him What he meant about it?
Him: Nvrmnd
Me: If you have an issue with me go ahead and say it. I don't appreciate being told Good job cleric after a squad wipe. Plus I have a name. They way that you're addressing me now, I take to great offense.
Him: Fine. Just stop DD'ing, and doing the same attacks so much.
Me: There isn't as much reason for me to heal since you're using BB. Also, I'm debuffing and DD'ing to make it easier on the melee classes so that we can take the boss down quicker. You're the one that dropped BB.
Him: Because I ran out of pots. I only brought 30 with me here. You should give me some more pots. Give me some more pots since it was your fault.
Me: First off, if you couldn't hold BB, you never should have put it up. Secondly, If your mp was running that low, and you had no pots left, then you should have asked me to switch and puts mines up. I can hold it up indefiantely. (Links Platinum Mp charm that I had). Also, as a cleric its your responsibility to ensure that you have enough pots for these instances. I've run these instances many times. I know what I'm doing. I'll put up BB then (Sort of needed do to the low defense of our DD'ers, and "tank"...Lots of sins, and a bm. Good offense, but poor defense. The bm was the tank.)

I then rebuff the squad, gather chi, and we all meditate to recover from our deaths. We attack Zimo again. I use BB. No sooner do I put up BB does the cleric somehow run, and get aggro, then dies. I ask the cleric if he has a scroll while I'm still in BB. Cleric basically calls me a fail, and then leaves the squad. Fine with me. Then another person leaves with him. In the end, there were four of us there fighting zimo. No one died either. Then the fourth member left, and me, the blademaster, and the sin who is a friend of mines continued on through the instance, clearing the way until the bm d/c'ed and never returned. We made it almost to glutt, then decided that just the two of us couldn't complete it...even with BB. So we dropped, and reformed later. Never say that other cleric again either. Goodbye to it, and good riddance.


Sidenote: I normally love having a second cleric in the squad. Even a third is okay with me. However, in regards to that cleric, I think I'll pass, and wait for someone else to come around. Being rude to others for ones own mistake isn't something that I take too well.

Kagizyu - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Ive had nub clerics tell me to cleric better as a psychic.... b:shocked
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That wouldn't happen to be at fc bubble boss would it? If clerics are bubbled it's nice to get a wizzy/psy/mystic heal when your bubbled. Makes things easier to survive. In case you get bubbled again. :P

Kagizyu - Heavens Tear wrote: »

IWe were mystic healing a pro barb at pole/nob and the other mystic tells me to heal the barb when he isnt amp/axed. Also im TWICE the amount of mana added when two people are healing at the same time?

She meant it saves HER mana, lol. I'm willing to be their were no sally shields, no falling petals, and no healing plants either.

Kagizyu-Heavens Tear wrote: »

Excuses by blaming it on a DD that got hit by an AoE is not valid for fail healing.

Agreed, fail mystic is fail. I've noticed on mystic too if there is a cleric in squad and she misses healing a dd and I throw him a heal, sometimes they get mad. I usually forget to refresh their rez buffs and "accidentally" cast them on the rest of the squad.

ILubby - Raging Tide wrote: »

Yea sometimes it happens. But I was once asked nicely to only DD by a cleric (probably cuz she gets confused if someone else is doing her job) I take no offense to that.
I also know ppl who just say " more than 2 cleric is bad " no matter what for the squad was formed. But I just think it's plain stupid to refuse to take more than 1 cleric to any instance that doesn't require heavy DDing, like any cave except for twilight temple and nirvana. Hell, even warsong and delta are pretty do-able with 2 clerics.

Well I haven't be in the 3-x TTs but the other TTs are fine with two clerics, and I think someone on ran an all cleric nirvana. It took them an hour but I bet it was a lot of fun. b:laugh

ILubby - Raging Tide wrote: »

Hell, even warsong and delta are pretty do-able with 2 clerics.

Can't blame em for wanting bonus beans :<

Yeah. I once got into a squad who already had two clerics. The tank (a BM) took one look and said "not another one!" I think it was a BH59 at the time, and had two sins to finish up the squad.

All I can say is that no one died that run.

Been in a BH100 with 4 clerics, ppl died but it was OK, probably to the point where I was hoping someone else would die just for lols b:chuckle . Was quite nice knowing that no matter how many times BB got interupted somebody was there to go "hell yeah my turn to be lazy".

Only times it gets annoying is when someone says they are gonna do something and then like totally doesn't do it resulting in much pain for everybody else. Watching Barb drop dead on Pole is quite aggrivating when you have 3 Clerics in the Squad, Knowing you might be the next in line for agro is not much fun either XD.

It is comforting to know somebody else is there to back you up though, especially if you make a mistake (quite rare, usually due to falling asleep) or if a tard gets you killed and you would otherwise lose quite a bit of exp compared to anybody else.

As far as getting angry though, maybe your friend has had some bad experiences like all Clerics have had and just has trouble letting go and enjoying themselves. Only person I've ever Blacklisted though is Stonk for being a perv and for PKing me in HIS BH.

P.S if you read this nub I forgive you, was only angry because I lost a guardian scroll. _._ nvm your a SIN never gonna read this anyway. Still a perv though XD

archidaequiem wrote: »

So, I have a cleric on DW. She's level 91. Now I have no problems with being in difficult squads with players that are less than polite (and it wouldn't hurt them to be a little more patient). I can put up with a lot of **** when I'm playing my cleric.

Now I'm just curious... Have you ever had someone in your faction or someone you've been in a squad with, that is also a cleric, have a hostile attitude toward you for no reason?

Awhile back, in one of my ex-factions, there was one cleric in faction who would not be in a squad if there was another cleric already in the squad; despite that I see nothing wrong with a second cleric. Sometimes it is taking up an unnecessary slot in squad, especially for the higher level instances where you need more DD than healing power, etc. Or even lower level instances where one cleric can suffice... but isn't it a bit stupid to get jealous/angry over a second cleric in squad?

I can't even count the amount of times where I've been helping a squad with some BHs and the lower level cleric in squad is giving me an attitude for no reason.

Anyone ever met jealous clerics like that?

I really don't know if this is in the right section, but I almost never post on the forum.

nope o.o
i just watch what actions they are doing most.
if they heal alot i naturally DD
if they DD alot i naturally DD
lol
on a serious note, if they DD alot i just heal and ask them debuff + attack

I rarely get the feeling that other clerics dislike when I join party. I think most of them get happy they can play DD and be lazy for once. b:chuckle

It seems it's easier to get things confused when there's more then one cleric though.

Myself I don't really mind other clerics joining, as long as we're doing different things. No point in having three clerics healing when one is enough. Well I do mind when we're running between bosses in bh59 and someone aggro something so I stay and heal while rest of party continue on. Then they aggro something and the cleric with them don't do anything and they die while I'm trying to holy path to them as fast as I can. =.=

But I do know I love another cleric in party when I run in fb69. I'm not doing BH there yet. But I don't really trust myself at Pole yet. Pyro and Nob are piece of cake. But at Pole I get all "Omg the damn sin is going to take aggro and die, tank will get debuffed while I try to ress, I won't purify fast enough and he'll die." or "Boss will aoe, I will party heal and tank will get debuffed while I channeling, I will accidently double click esc to stop channel and lose target on barb and he'll die cause I didn't purify fast enough." Overthinker ftl. b:chuckle But I'm sure I'll get used to it when I actually start running BH there. b:chuckle

Getting a second cleric is like telling you in the face that you can't do your job without help. b:shocked

Personally i like a second cleric as long he agree that i DD

Manostra - Harshlands wrote: »

Getting a second cleric is like telling you in the face that you can't do your job without help. b:shocked

Personally i like a second cleric as long he agree that i DD

I just take whatever is looking for BH at the moment. b:chuckle
If it happens to be 3 clerics so be it. Sometimes it takes forever to find more people for us lowbies. b:surrender

VenusArmani - Dreamweaver wrote: »

This, i usually don't take it as a slap in the face because usually it's just the first person who pmed. :P

I thought your signature was a horse for the longest time... O___o

Anyway, yes, clerics bag on other clerics because most of them are female and girls can get pretty vicious... ooo so evil. b:shocked

I have no problem with two barbs if one is a claw end game o.o because then, its really useless to have two things that cant deal a ton, more like dead weight.

Kinda like having an all mage nirvy lol... it goes slower than it should

Jeremied - Sanctuary wrote: »

<--Never had to wait more than 10 minute to find bh. Yet. ._.

You probably never will. Clerics are a dying class, yet everyone needs them pre-endgame...

im always happy to see more clerics in a squad, and most of the time its the same for those i've squaded with. its not just other clerics that get nasty when there's more than one cleric in a squad though, there was a bm once that was yelling for more ppl for frost saying "any class" then when i pmed and said im cleric he said eww another cleric and i didnt hear from him again lol. i love having more clerics around cos usually it means we got each others backs and we usually talk things out so whatever we're doing (bh or tt or frost) runs smoothly, and it always does

i remember once though there was a higher level cleric in my squad who immediately started healing, so i let her do most of the healing until i noticed that at boss she was healing only the tank (no aoe heals) and the other dds were getting hit by aoe. so of course i put some heals on them, but after the boss died she told me that i was getting in her way and that i wasn't needed in the squad since she was doing so well already. so i lagged behind everyone else the rest of the way and just dd and didnt heal at all. we ended up in a squad wipe with me as the only survivor. when she yelled at me for not healing i told her that since she insisted that she was so good at healing i shouldnt "get in her way". it's almost like karma got her back for me ^_^