Lothranis ENGLISH sub-forum.

Liandri - Lothranis
Liandri - Lothranis Posts: 65 Arc User
edited August 2011 in General Discussion
Please can we get one frankie, the french forums are only used by the frenchies and 50% of the server if not more are english and have nowhere to post our videos/etc etc.. please can you make an ENGLISH sub forum. Also 2 videos to show how lothranis is for you people playing on American servers :)

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  • krittycat
    krittycat Posts: 4,187 Community Moderator
    edited August 2011
    The official word from PWE was that they had no plans to make English forums for either of the new servers. Sorry.b:surrender
  • DaKillanator - Raging Tide
    DaKillanator - Raging Tide Posts: 2,965 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    Just because a bunch of english speakers failed in their own servers and decided to try and be factors in a new one doesn't mean they should cater to you and create an english sub forum.
  • Sarrafeline - Sanctuary
    Sarrafeline - Sanctuary Posts: 4,661 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    Just because a bunch of english speakers failed in their own servers and decided to try and be factors in a new one doesn't mean they should cater to you and create an english sub forum.

    Go troll somewhere else. Seriously. You fail at it.
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  • Shinsetsu - Lothranis
    Shinsetsu - Lothranis Posts: 62 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    Please can we get one frankie, the french forums are only used by the frenchies and 50% of the server if not more are english and have nowhere to post our videos/etc etc.. please can you make an ENGLISH sub forum. Also 2 videos to show how lothranis is for you people playing on American servers :)

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1OjeXNguDnk
    PvP war 5 v ???

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lQi3YCLi42Y
    First big PvP TW - 18 v 80

    wouldnt it be better if you just continue talking on the english servers here on pwi or maybe get a browser or something that translates the site (google chrome)?
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  • Liandri - Lothranis
    Liandri - Lothranis Posts: 65 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    KrittyCat wrote: »
    The official word from PWE was that they had no plans to make English forums for either of the new servers. Sorry.b:surrender

    Please put in a good word kritty! Fuzzy is trying to b:pleased
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  • krittycat
    krittycat Posts: 4,187 Community Moderator
    edited August 2011
    Please put in a good word kritty! Fuzzy is trying to b:pleased

    I was the first one to encourage English sub-forums. b:chuckle

    Seriously, as soon as I found out that the servers were German and French, I thought about the forums...

    This is one case in which I think PWE has a good point, though. The target audience of those servers are French and German players. To split the server's populace because English players insist on playing them is wrong.b:shutup

    Also, the GMs here don't do anything with the European servers. To have forums hosted here for them would mean taking responsibility for something that isn't their baby, so to speak.
  • Sarrafeline - Sanctuary
    Sarrafeline - Sanctuary Posts: 4,661 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    KrittyCat wrote: »
    I was the first one to encourage English sub-forums. b:chuckle

    Seriously, as soon as I found out that the servers were German and French, I thought about the forums...

    This is one case in which I think PWE has a good point, though. The target audience of those servers are French and German players. To split the server's populace because English players insist on playing them is wrong.b:shutup

    Also, the GMs here don't do anything with the European servers. To have forums hosted here for them would mean taking responsibility for something that isn't their baby, so to speak.

    It's not even that...

    If 50+% of the servers population speaks English, then shouldn't the forums (the actual French/German forums) have English subforums? A lot of Brits and other English Speakers in the EU want to play and get good ping, and let's be honest, if you're in Greece, you are NOT getting a good ping on Sanctuary or Harshlands or Dreamweaver or Raging Tides or Archosaur etc. There SHOULD have been an English EU server at the start of this, PWE is alienating the English Speaking EU community (which OBVIOUSLY is more than 50% of the EU players so far).
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  • LilNai - Harshlands
    LilNai - Harshlands Posts: 481 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    It's not even that...

    If 50+% of the servers population speaks English, then shouldn't the forums (the actual French/German forums) have English subforums? A lot of Brits and other English Speakers in the EU want to play and get good ping, and let's be honest, if you're in Greece, you are NOT getting a good ping on Sanctuary or Harshlands or Dreamweaver or Raging Tides or Archosaur etc. There SHOULD have been an English EU server at the start of this, PWE is alienating the English Speaking EU community (which OBVIOUSLY is more than 50% of the EU players so far).

    As an idea, most of us UK players on HL get 180-250 ping on average. Its perfectly playable, although ive played with 8ms ping before and its amazing in comparison b:chuckle

    Main reason is for the event times. I seriously dont get why they opened french and german servers in french and german. I mean really? Both could have been english servers and this would have worked out pretty much perfectly.

    Im going to guesstimate well over 80% of French and German players can speak enough English to get along. Less than 5% of Englich are going to understand French and German.

    Theres a reason Indians doing buisness with Japanese companies both speak in English. Its the new Latin, the standard, what every mother ****er speaks.
  • Sarrafeline - Sanctuary
    Sarrafeline - Sanctuary Posts: 4,661 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    As an idea, most of us UK players on HL get 180-250 ping on average. Its perfectly playable, although ive played with 8ms ping before and its amazing in comparison b:chuckle

    Main reason is for the event times. I seriously dont get why they opened french and german servers in french and german. I mean really? Both could have been english servers and this would have worked out pretty much perfectly.

    Im going to guesstimate well over 80% of French and German players can speak enough English to get along. Less than 5% of Englich are going to understand French and German.

    Theres a reason Indians doing buisness with Japanese companies both speak in English. Its the new Latin, the standard, what every mother ****er speaks.

    I did international membership renewal calls to Japan, mostly because (back then) I knew enough Japanese to get through to business men and women (almost exclusively men) if a secretary didn't understand English. I never once had to actually speak Japanese while on one of those calls, and I made around 3,000 of them. (I also did those because I knew enough about the culture to not offend the Japanese I spoke with, social nuances, phone etiquette, etc).

    I'll state this plainly. It was silly to open a German and French server in Europe and not an English server. The official 'reasoning' was to 'get a more broad playerbase', which they are actively failing at because of a refusal to acknowledge the majority speaking English.

    And wtf, you get better ping across a damn ocean than I get to a server less than 200 miles from my house. >_>
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  • LilNai - Harshlands
    LilNai - Harshlands Posts: 481 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    I did international membership renewal calls to Japan, mostly because (back then) I knew enough Japanese to get through to business men and women (almost exclusively men) if a secretary didn't understand English. I never once had to actually speak Japanese while on one of those calls, and I made around 3,000 of them. (I also did those because I knew enough about the culture to not offend the Japanese I spoke with, social nuances, phone etiquette, etc).

    I'll state this plainly. It was silly to open a German and French server in Europe and not an English server. The official 'reasoning' was to 'get a more broad playerbase', which they are actively failing at because of a refusal to acknowledge the majority speaking English.

    And wtf, you get better ping across a damn ocean than I get to a server less than 200 miles from my house. >_>

    Hehe. Ive traced my route to HL. Theres only 12 jumps last time I checked. I mean, the sea is a long *** distance, but theres no re-routing going on. Your connection probably jumps around half the country.
  • Sarrafeline - Sanctuary
    Sarrafeline - Sanctuary Posts: 4,661 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    Hehe. Ive traced my route to HL. Theres only 12 jumps last time I checked. I mean, the sea is a long *** distance, but theres no re-routing going on. Your connection probably jumps around half the country.

    Bahahahaha, you're probably right. Though, I get really awful pings if I try connecting to either EU server, like 2k ms. East Coast servers are around 1k, and I normally get 400 ms to the west coast servers. ;_; 12 meg internet... I might be moving soon though, then I can get Fiber internet and lower pings (hopefully).
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  • Liandri - Lothranis
    Liandri - Lothranis Posts: 65 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    Bahahahaha, you're probably right. Though, I get really awful pings if I try connecting to either EU server, like 2k ms. East Coast servers are around 1k, and I normally get 400 ms to the west coast servers. ;_; 12 meg internet... I might be moving soon though, then I can get Fiber internet and lower pings (hopefully).

    40-50 ping to the EU servers they must have good routing :)
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  • _blood_rain - Sanctuary
    _blood_rain - Sanctuary Posts: 2,532 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    Wow you guys look like you are having fun on those new servers, and it was fun watching you drop Zanryu so many timesb:avoid
  • Zanryu - Dreamweaver
    Zanryu - Dreamweaver Posts: 7,261 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    Wow you guys look like you are having fun on those new servers, and it was fun watching you drop Zanryu so many timesb:avoid

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  • Liandri - Lothranis
    Liandri - Lothranis Posts: 65 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    Wow you guys look like you are having fun on those new servers, and it was fun watching you drop Zanryu so many timesb:avoid

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  • Tsukyini - Raging Tide
    Tsukyini - Raging Tide Posts: 1,766 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    KrittyCat wrote: »

    This is one case in which I think PWE has a good point, though. The target audience of those servers are French and German players. To split the server's populace because English players insist on playing them is wrong.b:shutup

    The server's populace is already split, though. I play on the German server, and I'd say about half the WC is in English. Not having English subforums on the EU forums pretty much forces the English speakers to keep posting stuff over here.

    Even if I can use Google translator to read the posts over there, I wouldn't dare trust it to translate stuff I might actually want to post. I've seen enough horrible translations to know I'd have to worry about coming across as some illiterate idiot. b:cry
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  • Annalyse - Heavens Tear
    Annalyse - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,618 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    KrittyCat wrote: »


    This is one case in which I think PWE has a good point, though. The target audience of those servers are French and German players. To split the server's populace because English players insist on playing them is wrong.b:shutup


    This is absolutely ridiculous. If they are going to encourage Europeans to use new European servers so that they will stop complaining about event times here, then they should very well cater to the majority of who would populate those servers, and not just two groups.

    If this is how it is going to be, then I think it is only fair to change some event times on these servers for the English speaking Europeans (and other non-German or French people) since they are being alienated from the so-called "European" servers.

    And no, I'm not European. I just think this situation is stupid especially since when people complain about event times here, the instant response is "go reroll on the European servers."
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  • Wysteria - Heavens Tear
    Wysteria - Heavens Tear Posts: 50 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    I still dont get why they didnt just make 2x European servers, 1 pve; 1 pvp - that wouldve covered everyone in Europe, the reason most 'Europeans, whether they be french, german, english, spanish, dutch etc. have gone there is for the better event times.
  • rayfallen
    rayfallen Posts: 4 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    Please can we get one frankie, the french forums are only used by the frenchies and 50% of the server if not more are english and have nowhere to post our videos/etc etc.. please can you make an ENGLISH sub forum. Also 2 videos to show how lothranis is for you people playing on American servers :)

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1OjeXNguDnk
    PvP war 5 v ???

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lQi3YCLi42Y
    First big PvP TW - 18 v 80

    Why do you need an English sub forum, to post videos of how to get 102 glitching dragoons in a new server?
  • Sarrafeline - Sanctuary
    Sarrafeline - Sanctuary Posts: 4,661 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    This is absolutely ridiculous. If they are going to encourage Europeans to use new European servers so that they will stop complaining about event times here, then they should very well cater to the majority of who would populate those servers, and not just two groups.

    If this is how it is going to be, then I think it is only fair to change some event times on these servers for the English speaking Europeans (and other non-German or French people) since they are being alienated from the so-called "European" servers.

    And no, I'm not European. I just think this situation is stupid especially since when people complain about event times here, the instant response is "go reroll on the European servers."

    They obviously are stupid enough to not have a clue how to do it... Either that, or everyone in Europe must speak either German or French. b:shutup

    Hell, awful ping or not, I was considering re-rolling on an EU server, just for something new, but not if the support forums are 'French and German only'.
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  • Martin - Harshlands
    Martin - Harshlands Posts: 207 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    rayfallen wrote: »
    Why do you need an English sub forum, to post videos of how to get 102 glitching dragoons in a new server?

    ok we get it, this whole "point out the obvious glitch user" is beyond annoying at this point. Just deal with it, if you can't beat em...either join em or shutup. The GM's knows it exists, that's it, you have done your civil duty to make sure people don't out level you. Deal with the fact that glitch's don't get fixed in this game. Obvious glitch user is obvious...so stop stating the god damn obvious.

    I am curious though, how active are these servers? I mean at this point, there have been many stereotypical "ima reroll to be a factor" moments already..Raging Tide and Arch are prime examples. But did many go there? Was the better ping really enough to leave your main char's to cash-shop in a more expensive server? I do highly doubt there was a sudden influx of completely new people to PWI but I have been wrong before.

    Like I said, just curious.
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  • Zappingfish - Momaganon
    Zappingfish - Momaganon Posts: 3 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    I am curious though, how active are these servers? I mean at this point, there have been many stereotypical "ima reroll to be a factor" moments already..Raging Tide and Arch are prime examples. But did many go there? Was the better ping really enough to leave your main char's to cash-shop in a more expensive server? I do highly doubt there was a sudden influx of completely new people to PWI but I have been wrong before.

    Like I said, just curious.

    The servers were quiet to begin with, but seem to have gained momentum now - though not to the stage of being as populous as older US servers.

    And no, the reason for moving wasn't for the better ping (which is only marginally better than the East Coast US servers); it was to enjoy events at a more reasonable time for me.

    Getting back on topic - it's curious that we haven't been provided with a forum or area of a forum for English discussion - especially as we are regularly greeted with the system message to "bear in mind that this is a GERMAN <insert FRENCH for Lothranis> server, but other languages are welcome" ... just not on the forum, eh? b:laugh
  • VenusArmani - Dreamweaver
    VenusArmani - Dreamweaver Posts: 6,009 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    Personally, I feel as though the French and German players deserved their own servers considering they have had their own website for a very long time. I believe they've had their own clients as well. And I've seen the ridicule they've received for playing on the game prior to the release of the servers because they tend to suck in squads with English players because they just stick to rigid ways of doing things because they can't communicate in squad chat. Which sometimes ended in disaster if what they did wasn't the right thing to do in that situation. And so their gameplay didn't improve as much. But I do feel like since they were given their own versions of the site so they could communicate with each other prior to the release of the servers instead of having to ask questions here just to understand, the EU English people should be given the same courtesy. It wouldn't even need to be a whole other forum, just some sub folders here. And a promise to forward really important issues to the FR/DE GMs since many can't communicate in those languages.
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