Another genie question

Night$aber - Dreamweaver
Night$aber - Dreamweaver Posts: 120 Arc User
edited August 2011 in Archer
Currently my genie has the following skills:ToP,Holy Path,AD,Tangling Mire,Extreme poison.Now my question is:Would it worth to get Frenzy instead of any of these skills (especially tangling mire or extreme poison but if it has good combo can replace other skill too)?
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  • DeathVark - Raging Tide
    DeathVark - Raging Tide Posts: 56 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    i have exactly the same skills (well, plus cloud eruption), and while it is a good PVE genie, for TW i need smth else: i need Badge of Courage and Expell, for dem pesky sinsb:angry and was thinking about frenzy as well, because very rare u can use tangling mire or poison in TW, usually if they are that close u r about to dieb:chuckle
  • Sarrafeline - Sanctuary
    Sarrafeline - Sanctuary Posts: 4,661 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    Frenzy is awesome in PVE if you are DDing and don't have Aggro.

    Frenzy is not awesome in PVE if you are DDing and do have Aggro.

    Frenzy gives you a defense debuff, while boosting your attack level.

    It can be an easy way to solve an aggro problem, or just get yourself killed.

    I'd really only suggest it if you have GV's or are going to use it on a class that can be 'Painted.
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  • Asterelle - Sanctuary_1381265973
    Asterelle - Sanctuary_1381265973 Posts: 7,881 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    Frenzy is good whenever you can attack without expecting to be attacked back within the next 5 seconds.

    The defense debuff is not very risky if you are fully buffed but it is pretty scary if you are unbuffed.
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  • Night$aber - Dreamweaver
    Night$aber - Dreamweaver Posts: 120 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    I have GV and yeah i saw that fully buffed it isnt so much.Also i decided to replace Tangling Mire with Frenzy since mire had kinda low range and lagged when used,and also because some1 from squad usually has mire and frenzy should help more then.Was this a good idea?:P
  • Sarrafeline - Sanctuary
    Sarrafeline - Sanctuary Posts: 4,661 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    Night$aber - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    I have GV and yeah i saw that fully buffed it isnt so much.Also i decided to replace Tangling Mire with Frenzy since mire had kinda low range and lagged when used,and also because some1 from squad usually has mire and frenzy should help more then.Was this a good idea?:P

    Try it out and see. o.x Half the time, people say something sucks, and I find it useful if I try it, or say it's useful and it sucks. Other half the time, like Solid Shield, it's just useful no matter what.
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  • Vindis - Dreamweaver
    Vindis - Dreamweaver Posts: 614 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    Night$aber - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    I have GV and yeah i saw that fully buffed it isnt so much.Also i decided to replace Tangling Mire with Frenzy since mire had kinda low range and lagged when used,and also because some1 from squad usually has mire and frenzy should help more then.Was this a good idea?:P

    Fishy fishy fishy...I told you I did this in like...my 80s. Sage spark+EP+Frenzy watch 100k crits all day ftw.

    And yes, mire is much better on melee toons, which is why I tell every BM/sin/veno I see to go get it on their genie.

    Also, how to use frenzy if you are tanking in pve: Above combo and ask cleric/wizard friends to cast abso domain. Optionally don't use frenzy at all while tanking and just EP again when it wears off.

    And if anyone cares my genie is: Holy Path, EP, Frenzy, Abso, Stunning Blast, (soon to be) Expel and maybe one more skill depending on level 100 LP gain.
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  • Night$aber - Dreamweaver
    Night$aber - Dreamweaver Posts: 120 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    Grrr you didnt tell me anything or if u did i forgot because i was lvl 80 a few months ago.Also im demon so no sage spark for me and im not a fishy anymore.Quitted sin duh.Archer ftw b:victory
  • Vindis - Dreamweaver
    Vindis - Dreamweaver Posts: 614 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    Night$aber - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    Grrr you didnt tell me anything or if u did i forgot because i was lvl 80 a few months ago.Also im demon so no sage spark for me and im not a fishy anymore.Quitted sin duh.Archer ftw b:victory

    Youll always be a deathyfish to me ijs :3

    And yea I definitely told you tons about archers but this was back when your archer was like 40 or so, its understandable to forget.

    And ijs, but Demon spark will still get you 100k crits, you just need to not be the tank I guess. That or be able to take afew hits.
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  • Night$aber - Dreamweaver
    Night$aber - Dreamweaver Posts: 120 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    Umm bro,my archer was 40 last summer so more than 1 year ago.We just met a few months ago so i guess ur thinking at some1 else lolz.
  • Vindis - Dreamweaver
    Vindis - Dreamweaver Posts: 614 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    Night$aber - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    Umm bro,my archer was 40 last summer so more than 1 year ago.We just met a few months ago so i guess ur thinking at some1 else lolz.

    then maybe your archer was 80 lol. Maybe it was Side's veno that was 40. All I remember was we were in Lost City and it was like 4am (which its 4am now, which is why I probably can't remember correctly lol)
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  • Night$aber - Dreamweaver
    Night$aber - Dreamweaver Posts: 120 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    Hmm when side's veno was 40 my archer was 94 xD.Also why dont u come on game?b:laugh I didnt see you online since ages ;o
  • Vindis - Dreamweaver
    Vindis - Dreamweaver Posts: 614 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    Night$aber - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    Hmm when side's veno was 40 my archer was 94 xD.Also why dont u come on game?b:laugh I didnt see you online since ages ;o

    Im on my barb right now. I play it mostly this late because it requires little skill and it runs faster through arch (checking AH/shops etc)

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