Should I play seeker or mystic?

lol true mystics get pets to help them, but still TT gear is good to get any ways

It is true that seekers get called out a lot in world chat. However, OP stated that he won't put a single penny into the game (good decision imo) and wants to be a casual player. That means farming everyday for gear is out of the question. Mystics rely on both gear and pets while seekers rely on gear only. Since good gear will be unattainable, seekers pretty much end up with nothing while mystics still have their pets.

They say choose seeker.
but you won't like it when everyone calls you fail cus you cant tank or pull mobs.
I'd say choose mystic, besides whats the fun when you have to meditate or use pots every single time you kill ONE mob.
ain't practical

I would choose a seeker because imo they are the better class. But it really depends on what your play style is, do you wanna DD or be a more supportive class.

In pve Mystics are a support/DD. They can heal, provide rez buff, and reduce dmg buff. I wouldn't say they are great DD's imo they are around Average for DD's.
For Seekers they are secondary tanks/ DD. They can tank when a barb is not available. They are also good DD's due to stances and the Debuffs they have. They can Debuff causing the squads skills to do more dmg or reduces enemies attack/ defence levels. Seekers also have the better AoE's Making them desired for FC.

Seekers have a bit harder start in the early levels, then a mystic, but honestly i never had a problem where i was meditation after every mob. I think that might be people that don't know how to play a seeker effiecently

For PvP, id say Seekers are better, because I haven't met a mystic yet that i didn't kill in a few hits. Seekers got both metal and phys dmg attacks making them good at killing HA and AA. Seekers also can take hell of a beating compared to a Mystic. I don't know too much bought Mystics pvp abilities as most mystics i met in pvp never lived to long b:laugh

End game wise, its all about gear and as you said your not gonna cash shop, doesn't seem to a big factor to you

*also as a side note* i only cash shopped a better flying kite and some fashion for my seeker. I have a good faction that still farms TT so i managed to farm up some descent gears for my level, took a bit longer then if I where to cash shop it. But hell if i wanted to Cash Shop everything, i would of been lvl 100 by now. I prefer to play with my friends the way pwi used to be played, like actually working for my gear.

Hopes this helps to make your decision

ok OP,i will tell the only thing,i bet this will make you roll a seeker char(sorry if not)
no one calls you "bad puller" or else while you're grinding in an instance.

and most importantly,seekers have a continuous aoe,Vortex
and they need seekers for zhen(party leveling) and such other instances.

remember,zhen is quite popular among lv60s
no vortex means no zhen.

zhen is important for you to level on lv60 or so.
i can't really see benefits being a mystic besides fighting without wasting alot of money on gears.
well anyways its up to you.
seekers are bad on pvping and good on PvEing(yeah,casual players do want to grind well)

ps:people respect seekers also on FC(lv80+) instances,no seekers means no zhen and FC,although a squad without seeker can also do FC but only at higher levels.

if you're planning on getting your char to lv50+,choose seeker
if you aren't planning on getting a char to high lv,choose mystics

mystics are almost useless on FC and zhen if there are many good pullers in a squad
sorry mystics if you all feel offended,i was just telling the truth

VoItaire - Harshlands wrote: »

Yeah, you should've stucked to the beginner guide(although I'm not sure how active the subforum is). Looking at both threads here and in the mystic forums there are obviously a few biased opinions. b:chuckle

@Valkyrie_Sw: I wonder if vital herb could be counted as a zhen heal, and combined with the mystic's own aoe heals, kinda like how a psychic has no zhen but can still do good aoe dmg in instances like GV that compare to a wizard's. Or kinda how mystic can solo heal FC. Just tossing a thought out there. Although I guess it's not necessary for a well geared seeker with bp. Just saying it could sub for BB in some cases when the dmg reduction isn't really necessary either. And I'm pretty sure people did FC without seekers in the lower lvls(8x) before expansion

They did. Bm, sin , Barb and cleric and other aoe, but some people did 2sins or 2 bms for the fcs.

Valkyrie_Sw - Archosaur wrote: »

ok OP,i will tell the only thing,i bet this will make you roll a seeker char(sorry if not)
no one calls you "bad puller" or else while you're grinding in an instance.

LOL!! thats a lie. Fail Barbs and clerics receive the most negative comments. After them, seekers and mystics do.

and most importantly,seekers have a continuous aoe,Vortex
and they need seekers for zhen(party leveling) and such other instances.

Squads dont need seekers in aoe instances. They are convenient, yes, but needed?? hell no.

remember,zhen is quite popular among lv60s
no vortex means no zhen.

You sure do rely on your vortex too much. Not a good sign my friend.


zhen is important for you to level on lv60 or so.
i can't really see benefits being a mystic besides fighting without wasting alot of money on gears.
well anyways its up to you.
seekers are bad on pvping and good on PvEing(yeah,casual players do want to grind well)

Seekers are NOT bad in PVP. OMG lol! Assuming your geared up and you know your skills, most people should fear you in PVP. Seekers are very good in PVP.

ps:people respect seekers also on FC(lv80+) instances,no seekers means no zhen and FC,although a squad without seeker can also do FC but only at higher levels.

Again with FC? You rely on FC/zhen squads too much. No wonder you think seekers are bad in PVP.


if you're planning on getting your char to lv50+,choose seeker
if you aren't planning on getting a char to high lv,choose mystics

this is just wrong.

mystics are almost useless on FC and zhen if there are many good pullers in a squad
sorry mystics if you all feel offended,i was just telling the truth

Stop with the FC!! I dont think you know the full capability of a mystic. I have both mystic and seeker. I admit, i have more fun in FC with a seeker but mystics ARE NOT useless in FC. I would describe the functions of a mystic here but I suggest you go to the appropriate place (mystic sub-forums) to read upon.

Valkyrie_Sw - Archosaur wrote: »

ok OP,i will tell the only thing,i bet this will make you roll a seeker char(sorry if not)
no one calls you "bad puller" or else while you're grinding in an instance.

and most importantly,seekers have a continuous aoe,Vortex
and they need seekers for zhen(party leveling) and such other instances.

People actually still zhen?

remember,zhen is quite popular among lv60s
no vortex means no zhen.

Again people still zhen?

i can't really see benefits being a mystic besides fighting without wasting alot of money on gears.

Benefits such as AoE debuffs, seals, silences, vital herb, res buff, pvp pushback etc etc... I can't either b:sweat

ps:people respect seekers also on FC(lv80+) instances,no seekers means no zhen and FC,although a squad without seeker can also do FC but only at higher levels.

Funnily enough FF squads and Zhen squads existed before EG's and before TB's and they went smooth just like today in FF squads with no seeker...

if you're planning on getting your char to lv50+,choose seeker
if you aren't planning on getting a char to high lv,choose mystics

Lol.

mystics are almost useless on FC and zhen if there are many good pullers in a squad
sorry mystics if you all feel offended,i was just telling the truth

Mega Lol.

Probably the funniest post I have seen for a long time, even funnier that he is being serious b:bye

Helbear - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Probably the funniest post I have seen for a long time, even funnier that he is being serious b:bye

yeah,people do actually stil zhen lol,many low level newbs who wanted to reach 105.
and i think its the same bcus you do take this serious.
rather than QQing other's posts,dragoon FC plvl me lolb:laughb:laugh

@Valkyrie_Sw:you're being a little too serious lol.
let the OP choose

Kagizyu - Heavens Tear wrote: »

To me it looks everything is based off vortex and how it makes mystics useless. Lol. vortex vortex vortex. Im still lol'ing. Mystics made RB, FF, any aoe, VERY VERY VERY EASY. Summons do full damage and hit hard as ****.

I know XD. I know voretex is good move for seekers, but seekers are more then vortex, we have other moves. As for mystics, they arent useless at all, in fact when i pull their buffs are useful and they damage on bosses help too, using my wood debuff + their move is amazing. And craglord is !!! powerful, those things hurt. Poor mystics, shame that people are narrow minded and only think about aps and powerleving, no wonder people only see seekers as vortex. Did ya know some people think its automatic and can never get intterupted or it has zero cooldown lol. Yes i know, people are just only thinking about rank 9 so much that they cant even look around them or even appreciate the dds. They are so desperate that they are trying to make seeker actual barbs lol. I know seeker can tank, but lets not remember the gear and experienced that needs to be obtained XD.

For voting thats down to you.

If you like melee and supporting damage and aoe Seeker.
If you like supporting squad, healing and assisting damage with summon and some plants and pretty moves Mystic.

But i say if you love swords , Seeker( Yeah i am big fan of swords thanks to final fantasy although their swords look better like Cloud 's Sword or lightning sword or Tidus,)
But for nice effects Mystic!!!(Heck i will pick a mystic and watch their moves all day, look better then seekers i am jealous)

@Kagizyu

ah lol and about your red text stuffs.
im concerned on what im saying and how are ppl gonna do phoenix valley?
did i mention phoenix valley?i said zhen right?
pq zhen,its where you can level during 60s before you can advance to 80,
hell lv100 ppl are being dumb nowadays,don't even know how to level fast.
and you are just +1ing in a damn creative way,hurt in butt.
anything is up to OP,put an opinion,instead of QQing for my postsb:chuckleb:chuckle
hell lol this whole page has made me laugh for today,
hence many can't really understand.

*looks at avatar......
oh,i have realized ppl did it because i have my lv87 alt's avatar!trololololol.....
i might get more quotes for putting a lv10 into avatar pic

Lol I am aware of the PQ zhen, I have done it with my friends seeker. Its costly if your a casual player. in 1 hour = 200k repair bill not including mp pots or hypers. Yes that is alot now adays for a "free" to play.

BTW I see more PV than PQ zhen because its in a instance where someone won't **** with them, experienced players that DONT want to be annoyed think its safer.

Also I DID give OP an opinion on the mystic subforum, because I think they are fun. I have mystic 8x and seeker 59. I kept leveling mystic because i liked it more b:chuckle

Plus its not really being butt hurt when you fail at posting correct info. I want someone to have fun with the game and not look at negatives because one person posts a wall of text that looks important

Just level both to 60 and pick the one you like more. b:sweat