How about Lunar
Razorburn - Dreamweaver
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Ok, Essentially i have 6 lv 100 characters an im wealthy enough in real life i can buy them pretty much whatever I want, so I started to fell bored. Well, guys, who cares about the profitability. The 3 mill open fee divided by 6 is nearly nothing in this days economy. Literally like about 35 cents.
So why wont people start farming Lunar more than currently? It is fun, different looking, an all the bosses are way nicer than the same old boring ones. The gear isnt great but it is ok an its nice to make nirvy gear that you could trade later or sell when ready for rank 9.
Cmon people dont be scared of a 500k cost an lets go do some lunar runs.
So why wont people start farming Lunar more than currently? It is fun, different looking, an all the bosses are way nicer than the same old boring ones. The gear isnt great but it is ok an its nice to make nirvy gear that you could trade later or sell when ready for rank 9.
Cmon people dont be scared of a 500k cost an lets go do some lunar runs.
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Razorburn - Dreamweaver wrote: »Ok, Essentially i have 6 lv 100 characters an im wealthy enough in real life i can buy them pretty much whatever I want, so I started to fell bored. Well, guys, who cares about the profitability. The 3 mill open fee divided by 6 is nearly nothing in this days economy. Literally like about 35 cents.
So why wont people start farming Lunar more than currently? It is fun, different looking, an all the bosses are way nicer than the same old boring ones. The gear isnt great but it is ok an its nice to make nirvy gear that you could trade later or sell when ready for rank 9.
Cmon people dont be scared of a 500k cost an lets go do some lunar runs.
why get 6 ppl when 1st and last boss are glitchable you can pretty much solo it whole.
But then again this glitch isnt gamebreaking as frost so yea100% F2P legit 105 since starting this game. Full rank9 jaded +12 seeker. .tinyurl.com/nocashshopHaters gona hate cuz they cant play a game0 -
Because it's not as profitable as Nirvana.
And that's really all there is to it. The community is so very profit-driven that they ignore any dungeon that is not the most profitable. Just look at World Chat, all you see is either leveling in FCC or Nirvana. You're lucky if you see someone making a TT squad.I am Olba. Not Ol, not Baze nor Blaze. And even less would I go by Olblaze. Please, take a second to read a person's username.
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Those who can afford to run it often dont need the gear and dont care to run, those who need the gear can often not afford to buy it or would be deemed too ungeared to go with most of those capable of running it. (BS I know, farmed several pieces of armor at one point with a group of mates till we went our seperate ways, our gears were far from great).
Vicious circle of noone caring or being unable to do it my friend, youl only get Lunar if you get your own personal 6 man group going regularly.0 -
Razorburn - Dreamweaver wrote: »Ok, Essentially i have 6 lv 100 characters an im wealthy enough in real life i can buy them pretty much whatever I want, so I started to fell bored.
Well if you have 6 lvl 100 characters and you're bored and wealthy in real life then why dont you go play a pay to play game. I mean you have to money to pay why dont you go play one of those games their much better than this lol
Also most people who play this game doesnt have 6 lvl 100 and money to buy whatever they want, if they did there would be more people doing instances like phoenix valley, warsong, and lunar. Most people don't have it like you so dont be surprised that their not surprised to do a lunar run.
And paying 3mil to open lunar is one of the stupidest things in this game. Why should we have to pay that much just to enter a dungeon.
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Olbaze - Sanctuary wrote: »Because it's not as profitable as Nirvana.
And that's really all there is to it. The community is so very profit-driven that they ignore any dungeon that is not the most profitable. Just look at World Chat, all you see is either leveling in FCC or Nirvana. You're lucky if you see someone making a TT squad.
I don't blame anyone for running duo TT or nirvana for coins and ignoring everything else to stay f2p. I blame the game for forcing us to farm 15 billion coins to actually keep on par with casual (not even hardcore) cash shoppers.
Most people on this game are now leveling alts so that is all they really need to advertise for on them. Everything else is using their main for profits. This game has no sense of itself anymore other then make lots of alts, farm lots of coin, and ignore everything else.BladedZero - Sanctuary
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Traz - Dreamweaver wrote: »I don't blame anyone for running duo TT or nirvana for coins and ignoring everything else to stay f2p. I blame the game for forcing us to farm 15 billion coins to actually keep on par with casual (not even hardcore) cash shoppers.
Most people on this game are now leveling alts so that is all they really need to advertise for on them. Everything else is using their main for profits. This game has no sense of itself anymore other then make lots of alts, farm lots of coin, and ignore everything else.
What kind of drugs or sarcasm are you on to get an insane number like 15bn? Full Rank 9 costs less than 2, 24 JoSD's costs another 2, full +10 refines cost another 1bn. That's not even half of your supposed 15.
My personal opinion is that on any game where you can, in any form, buy your way to power isn't worth it to PvP in. Because no matter how good you are, someone's going to out-do you either by out-gearing you via cash shopping or out-skilling you by cash shopping and having spent more time PvPing due to needing next to no time to level and farm gear.I am Olba. Not Ol, not Baze nor Blaze. And even less would I go by Olblaze. Please, take a second to read a person's username.
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Olbaze - Sanctuary wrote: »What kind of drugs or sarcasm are you on to get an insane number like 15bn? Full Rank 9 costs less than 2, 24 JoSD's costs another 2, full +10 refines cost another 1bn. That's not even half of your supposed 15.
My personal opinion is that on any game where you can, in any form, buy your way to power isn't worth it to PvP in. Because no matter how good you are, someone's going to out-do you either by out-gearing you via cash shopping or out-skilling you by cash shopping and having spent more time PvPing due to needing next to no time to level and farm gear.
Not quite so true. Before Rank 9 and PAcks/APS (combined =5aps dominance thanks to lunar robes etc), personaly I like packs and APS is ok in small doses) took over, buying power meant empowering everyone who farmed what you bought.
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Olbaze - Sanctuary wrote: »What kind of drugs or sarcasm are you on to get an insane number like 15bn? Full Rank 9 costs less than 2, 24 JoSD's costs another 2, full +10 refines cost another 1bn. That's not even half of your supposed 15.
My personal opinion is that on any game where you can, in any form, buy your way to power isn't worth it to PvP in. Because no matter how good you are, someone's going to out-do you either by out-gearing you via cash shopping or out-skilling you by cash shopping and having spent more time PvPing due to needing next to no time to level and farm gear.
It was exaggerated for a purpose and just for the sheer fact that you need to attack it was amusing to me. On a side note, I'm not sure about you but I make sure all my alts have all end game gear. I don't just run around with 1 r9 character and leave the other gearless.BladedZero - Sanctuary
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I only run Lunar on 2x usually, but even when it's not on 2x...one Earth Essence will sell for 3mil over here on HL which basically just pays for the run. Everything else you get after that will be pure profit. And keep in mind that you don't need six people for a Lunar run. I ended up running it with a three or four person party a couple 2xs ago. We just took turns paying the 3mil fee.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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Im kinda done with my equipment expect the shards and i dont care about coins anymore BUT
Im not paying 500k coins to enter a dungeon. Not because i can't but because i dont want to. The statistics show PWE clearly we dont want that ****, i we start farming LG like mad a clever chinese might get the idea thats an excellent monney sink and a few patches later all dungeons cost 500k to enter.
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Eoria - Harshlands wrote: »I only run Lunar on 2x usually, but even when it's not on 2x...one Earth Essence will sell for 3mil over here on HL which basically just pays for the run. Everything else you get after that will be pure profit. And keep in mind that you don't need six people for a Lunar run. I ended up running it with a three or four person party a couple 2xs ago.
*Watches lunar pants dissapear into the fog of "Aint gonna get this".*
21 mill and thats less than half the mats of the green let alone the gold b:surrender
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Eoria - Harshlands wrote: »I only run Lunar on 2x usually, but even when it's not on 2x...one Earth Essence will sell for 3mil over here on HL which basically just pays for the run. Everything else you get after that will be pure profit. And keep in mind that you don't need six people for a Lunar run. I ended up running it with a three or four person party a couple 2xs ago. We just took turns paying the 3mil fee.
Solo runs for fragment/transparent cystals. Lunar trophy mode on 2x to get all your essences, and if it's a good squad you'll get sets of gold metals to get the tinders you need (5 sets = 1 ancient, chromatic, or unknown tinder). You can do TT runs after that to get the rest of your coin to chip out the rest of the gold mats you need or keep getting sets of gold medals from trophy mode.
No part of farming lunar mats needs lunar squad mode.BladedZero - Sanctuary
"Also I don't think actually playing through the game helps your skill either."
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Traz - Dreamweaver wrote: »Lunar trophy mode on 2x congrats on getting all your essences.
Why would I run Lunar trophy mode if it gave no chance of a good gold, only drops 1 essence per boss (2 on 2x), and has no card bosses?
Lunar squad mode on Drake path during 2x FTW.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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Eoria - Harshlands wrote: »Why would I run Lunar trophy mode if it gave no chance of a good gold, only drops 1 essence per boss (2 on 2x), and has no card bosses?
Lunar squad mode on Drake path during 2x FTW.
yea glitch it by going into water so no ads spawn ftw to bad cv dropped here to less then 1mil a essence only gold decent price100% F2P legit 105 since starting this game. Full rank9 jaded +12 seeker. .tinyurl.com/nocashshopHaters gona hate cuz they cant play a game0 -
Eoria - Harshlands wrote: »Why would I run Lunar trophy mode if it gave no chance of a good gold, only drops 1 essence per boss (2 on 2x), and has no card bosses?
Lunar squad mode on Drake path during 2x FTW.
It costs 12 mirages (2 per person in squad like warsong) vs 3m for squad mode. The last 2 run I did (last night) I got 4 earth essences. It cost me 4 mirages for 4 earth essences OFF double drops. That would net me 9m coin if I had sold them which is a chromatic tinder or 3 unknown tinder. I am collecting essences though, but 4 mirages for 4 earth essence..... I find that a damn good deal.
My squad has also gotten over 20 gold medals (between about 9 people) which means ever 5 gold runs everyone in squad can turn them in for 1 gold mat. That's a much higher rate then golds in squad mode. So you're getting fragments / crystals from mobs, 6 essences a run, and 6 gold mats every 5 gold runs all for 12 mirages per run.
I do warn people lunar trophy mode is probably the hardest PvE instance in game, but if you can get a good enough squad you have it made.BladedZero - Sanctuary
"Also I don't think actually playing through the game helps your skill either."
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I geuss my main point is yes it is not the most effient way to spend time an yes it is not the most money making way either. Seriously whats the point of playing the same old **** over an over when its no longer fun? I understand playing tt and nirvana the majority of time for profitt but how about once a week you spend 35cents to actually play for fun.
They dont need new bosses or dungeons when they have cool ones that nobody chooses to play. Seems stupid to me to ask for new content that'll just be ignored cause it isnt the "best" most extreme profit making thing.
Along time ago 500k to open lunar ws alot of coin...now its just poket change, so why is most everyone still shunning the dungeon?0 -
Razorburn - Dreamweaver wrote: »I geuss my main point is yes it is not the most effient way to spend time an yes it is not the most money making way either. Seriously whats the point of playing the same old **** over an over when its no longer fun? I understand playing tt and nirvana the majority of time for profitt but how about once a week you spend 35cents to actually play for fun.
They dont need new bosses or dungeons when they have cool ones that nobody chooses to play. Seems stupid to me to ask for new content that'll just be ignored cause it isnt the "best" most extreme profit making thing.
Along time ago 500k to open lunar ws alot of coin...now its just poket change, so why is most everyone still shunning the dungeon?
Unfortunately the sheer number of farming hours in this game to be completely f2p and to keep up with what hardcore cashers can buy in one weekend is staggering. The higher the gold goes (and no new things to sell) the more and more unbalanced this games f2p vs p2p ratio is getting. In one week you can now have a level 101 character and buy all your r9 and be completely "end game."BladedZero - Sanctuary
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Razorburn - Dreamweaver wrote: »I geuss my main point is yes it is not the most effient way to spend time an yes it is not the most money making way either. Seriously whats the point of playing the same old **** over an over when its no longer fun? I understand playing tt and nirvana the majority of time for profitt but how about once a week you spend 35cents to actually play for fun.
They dont need new bosses or dungeons when they have cool ones that nobody chooses to play. Seems stupid to me to ask for new content that'll just be ignored cause it isnt the "best" most extreme profit making thing.
Along time ago 500k to open lunar ws alot of coin...now its just poket change, so why is most everyone still shunning the dungeon?
Again :
Those who can afford it either NEED the gear or cant afford to run. No profit and struggle to cough up = Wont run.
It isnt pocket change for someone struggling to refine a weapon to +5. It isnt pocket change for anyone except those who can earn it in 20 minutes or charge cash in 20 seconds.
Those who can afford to run it by and large dont want to play PvE, especially when its as easy as Lunar Glade is.0 -
I used to duo it... I paid for all our runs..0
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Traz - Dreamweaver wrote: »My squad has also gotten over 20 gold medals (between about 9 people) which means ever 5 gold runs everyone in squad can turn them in for 1 gold mat. That's a much higher rate then golds in squad mode. So you're getting fragments / crystals from mobs, 6 essences a run, and 6 gold mats every 5 gold runs all for 12 mirages per run.
I do warn people lunar trophy mode is probably the hardest PvE instance in game, but if you can get a good enough squad you have it made.
I'm going to feel sorry for you when you discover you can't actually trade in gold medals for mats anymore. That was removed looooooooooooooooooong ago.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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Well if your expecting to keep up with cash shoppers an not playing for fun-you are surely robbing yourself. Everything worth having in this game is for sale for money so you will never keep up,--in as much as you ought to just play for fun, although i do understand the human nature is to want to compete.0
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Asterelle - Sanctuary wrote: »I'm going to feel sorry for you when you discover you can't actually trade in gold medals for mats anymore. That was removed looooooooooooooooooong ago.
Should have checked on that in game, but I'm not just doing it for the gold that was something on pwdatabase that was just extra benefit. I'm not sure why you would feel sorry for me... I only started this to help faction mats get their capes. Since then we figured it out in 8 or so runs + got 9 people robes + got over 40 different essences + getting awesome apoth for 1 set of golds + having fun..... what part of that is to feel sorry about?BladedZero - Sanctuary
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When comparing all the gear offered in the game. Lunar gear cost to much to farm and they sell to high when you include your personal profit.
The Pack also limit the profit has any one will buy a 30 mil trophy instead of the 32 mil already made ring.
Most decent pieces of equipment in lunar will come close to 30 mil value and there's no a lot
of player willing to spend 30 mil on gear, that will cost a lot more to nirvana.
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I used to run lunar all the time for my faction. Thing is, trophy mode is for those with GREAT gear to run, a normal squad is not going to be able to farm it so easily. I personally only run it now on double drops when I find it worth it, and I duo it with my friend. We take turns paying and on double the drop rate is decent. I've farmed out an entire set of Lunar Gold AA and LA now. But non double, I did 9 runs in a row for my faction with not one gold drop and maybe 3 earth essences? That will never be worth it. And 3 mil is very very expensive to me, I'm not a merchant and I don't CS. I farm my money on double drops and I coast from double to double to get by. To me Lunar should cost what TT does, 3 Essence of Nature should equal 3 Ultimate Substances and if it did only cost that, then Lunar would be farmed again. And it takes a normal squad of people who actually need the mats a good hour to hour and a half to do the entire run. Though it is much better than TT with its current state to farm.0
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While fully intending to read this thread, the panda only made it through the first 3 posts....
To this barb Lunar is perhaps the most entertaining instance in the game. Fuzzy started running it to farm his Solar Flash and fell in love. A set of Cascade Glow, many Heavens Shatter bows for friends, a Drakehunt, several sets of Deicide Claws for guild mates, Fuzzy's rings, capes for multiple characters, several sets of Djinn`s Waltz... all products of the Glade.Nniotora - Lost City wrote: »why get 6 ppl when 1st and last boss are glitchable you can pretty much solo it whole.
...and last boss? Sort of suggests to Fuzzy the only time you have stepped foot in the instance if for bh.
If by glitching the 1st boss you mean to have ranged classes such as archers attack while everyone else stands around and looks pretty, thats hardly a glitch. Thats archers playing their class as it was inteded and using half a tactic with a quarter of a brain. If by last boss you mean, again, archers standing on the rock in the pool and killing Primal Fear you have no business being in Lunar anyway. How can it be considered a glitch if it actually takes longer? Any competent squad worth their salt can work together and kill Primal much faster than waiting on that. But let Fuzzy guess.. seen it done that way since the 1st day you did it and were always too afraid to even try push a chracter to see if could be done in any other way. As for Primal being the "last boss"... if this is what you believe, far be it for the panda to challenge your reality.Olbaze - Sanctuary wrote: »The community is so very profit-driven that they ignore any dungeon that is not the most profitable.
Damn right and damn sad Olbaze.
Its the same reason you don't see anyone challening Chin, or Eye of Crimson, or Jewelscalen, or DoD, or doing Lunar, or doing full Warsong etc etc etc...
On the panda's home server me see everything except (okay, somewhat of a negative generalization) people interested in learning the limits of their character at any given level. They are interested in pushing the easy button to get to 100 as quick as possible and bypassing huge portions of available content that, at the given level to challenge it, is actually alot of fun. Now it is about how fast to 100 and how much to pay for rank gear. Partly PWI is blame for this mentality, but the player base needs to accept is share of the blame for milking such things as FC for all the profit they can. It saddens Fuzzy such things are available through the game, but saddens the panda even more it is the player base who exploit it for profit and thus allow others to miss 90% of the glory that is pushing your character at any given level to work with a party and achieve a sense of satisfaction for having slain a boss or running a dungeon.LilNai - Harshlands wrote: »Those who can afford to run it often dont need the gear and dont care to run....
How many posts does Fuzzy read about "lack of end game content"? Lunar is a prime example of content that gets ignored, largely for the reason Olbaze pointed out. Lack of profitability. Gods forbid anyone should run an instance for entertainment....
Also, it seems apparent to Fuzzy that most people don't realize that all the essence mats that actually can turn a lunar profit can be had for the mear price of 12 mirage stones vs. 3mil to open MP mode. But wait, that would mean challenging trophy mode and since that actually takes a good ammount of teamwork to complete, not just aps it all to death, most people are too afraid to think about it.
Fuzzy will quit ranting at this point, the panda could keep going for ever..... b:shutup0 -
Gods forbid anyone should run an instance for entertainment....
This. I recently went on a Lunar run because a squad in WC was asking for help...while a few had gone for the BH, the other members simply wanted to have a look into an instance they've never been in (myself included). The run was a bit slow because we did lots of odd pulls and I was the only ranged DD (3 Barbs, a Psychic, a Cleric and a BM) so we had to get creative with Genesiac Blink in spawning his adds and having someone take them around the instance while everyone else attacked it.
We made it to Primal Fear but we couldnt take him down (had him down to 200k before he nuked everyone)...and yet that was the most fun Ive had in any instance in a LONG time. To be in an instance you've got little experience or knowledge of with a squad thats not super OP, where one actually have to work as a team and have a few trial and error deaths to succeed...I miss those days b:cryThe community is so very profit-driven that they ignore any dungeon that is not the most profitable
That's sad but true...heck, even my faction wont help with Lunar unless its on the occasional BH, even when I offered to pay the fee in return for the essences. Everyone would rather run Nirvana or FF lol
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Yes, it ws sorta my point, I constantly see new rank 9 players or pimped out sins,bms apearing overnight nearly, so with all the cash shopping that i assume is going on you might think the 35 cent door fee is a non factor in this day and age. It USE TO BE alot of coin, that is nolonger the case.....I would have thought more people would start running it because of fun an a break from the normal also its nice having nirvana stuff that isnt bound also..0
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While fully intending to read this thread, the panda only made it through the first 3 posts....
To this barb Lunar is perhaps the most entertaining instance in the game. Fuzzy started running it to farm his Solar Flash and fell in love. A set of Cascade Glow, many Heavens Shatter bows for friends, a Drakehunt, several sets of Deicide Claws for guild mates, Fuzzy's rings, capes for multiple characters, several sets of Djinn`s Waltz... all products of the Glade.
...and last boss? Sort of suggests to Fuzzy the only time you have stepped foot in the instance if for bh.
If by glitching the 1st boss you mean to have ranged classes such as archers attack while everyone else stands around and looks pretty, thats hardly a glitch. Thats archers playing their class as it was inteded and using half a tactic with a quarter of a brain. If by last boss you mean, again, archers standing on the rock in the pool and killing Primal Fear you have no business being in Lunar anyway. How can it be considered a glitch if it actually takes longer? Any competent squad worth their salt can work together and kill Primal much faster than waiting on that. But let Fuzzy guess.. seen it done that way since the 1st day you did it and were always too afraid to even try push a chracter to see if could be done in any other way. As for Primal being the "last boss"... if this is what you believe, far be it for the panda to challenge your reality.
Damn right and damn sad Olbaze.
Its the same reason you don't see anyone challening Chin, or Eye of Crimson, or Jewelscalen, or DoD, or doing Lunar, or doing full Warsong etc etc etc...
On the panda's home server me see everything except (okay, somewhat of a negative generalization) people interested in learning the limits of their character at any given level. They are interested in pushing the easy button to get to 100 as quick as possible and bypassing huge portions of available content that, at the given level to challenge it, is actually alot of fun. Now it is about how fast to 100 and how much to pay for rank gear. Partly PWI is blame for this mentality, but the player base needs to accept is share of the blame for milking such things as FC for all the profit they can. It saddens Fuzzy such things are available through the game, but saddens the panda even more it is the player base who exploit it for profit and thus allow others to miss 90% of the glory that is pushing your character at any given level to work with a party and achieve a sense of satisfaction for having slain a boss or running a dungeon.
How many posts does Fuzzy read about "lack of end game content"? Lunar is a prime example of content that gets ignored, largely for the reason Olbaze pointed out. Lack of profitability. Gods forbid anyone should run an instance for entertainment....
Also, it seems apparent to Fuzzy that most people don't realize that all the essence mats that actually can turn a lunar profit can be had for the mear price of 12 mirage stones vs. 3mil to open MP mode. But wait, that would mean challenging trophy mode and since that actually takes a good ammount of teamwork to complete, not just aps it all to death, most people are too afraid to think about it.
Fuzzy will quit ranting at this point, the panda could keep going for ever..... b:shutup
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Razorburn - Dreamweaver wrote: »Yes, it ws sorta my point, I constantly see new rank 9 players or pimped out sins,bms apearing overnight nearly, so with all the cash shopping that i assume is going on you might think the 35 cent door fee is a non factor in this day and age. It USE TO BE alot of coin, that is nolonger the case.....I would have thought more people would start running it because of fun an a break from the normal also its nice having nirvana stuff that isnt bound also..
I run trophy mode lunar because it's the only place I can see a 23k hp bm get pwned b:laughBladedZero - Sanctuary
"Also I don't think actually playing through the game helps your skill either."
-And we wonder why this game has gone to hell b:cute0 -
...and last boss? Sort of suggests to Fuzzy the only time you have stepped foot in the instance if for bh.
If by glitching the 1st boss you mean to have ranged classes such as archers attack while everyone else stands around and looks pretty, thats hardly a glitch. Thats archers playing their class as it was inteded and using half a tactic with a quarter of a brain. If by last boss you mean, again, archers standing on the rock in the pool and killing Primal Fear you have no business being in Lunar anyway. How can it be considered a glitch if it actually takes longer? Any competent squad worth their salt can work together and kill Primal much faster than waiting on that. But let Fuzzy guess.. seen it done that way since the 1st day you did it and were always too afraid to even try push a chracter to see if could be done in any other way. As for Primal being the "last boss"... if this is what you believe, far be it for the panda to challenge your reality.
he was actualy talking about the drake boss (last boss).
also lunar is the only instance he actualy farms.0
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