Question about gears

Wizzie - Raging Tide
Wizzie - Raging Tide Posts: 191 Arc User
edited August 2011 in Wizard
This is my build + gears.

http://pwcalc.com/b0df3266a2132a21

I was wondering about what parts to upgrade/change in the future.
(can't afford r9 atm)

Thanks in advance.
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  • Questro - Lost City
    Questro - Lost City Posts: 40 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    http://pwcalc.com/97f6e14dbce43fa8

    remove garnet, add citrine shard
    you get more survival this way
    A crit from Archer usually hurt but a crit from wiz usually mean death.
  • Wizzie - Raging Tide
    Wizzie - Raging Tide Posts: 191 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    http://pwcalc.com/97f6e14dbce43fa8

    remove garnet, add citrine shard
    you get more survival this way

    Well, I think I don't get more survival. I will explain:

    With my build, if they hit me with physical for (let's say) 10.000, the damage is reduced by 71%(63%+8% from gears), so I get only 29% of the attack, meaning 2900. 2900 damage is exactly 50% of my hp.
    With the other build, if they hit me with physical for 10.000, the damage is reduced by 67%(59%+8% from gears), so I get only 33% of the attack, meaning 3300. 3300 damage would be 52% of my hp.
    (all this self-buffed)
    So it seems that my hp is going down faster with citrines only.

    Also, I know the hp would help me to defend against magic attacks too, but just for physical, isn't my build better?

    Correct me if im wrong...
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  • negativereaction
    negativereaction Posts: 238 Arc User
    edited August 2011
  • Wizzie - Raging Tide
    Wizzie - Raging Tide Posts: 191 Arc User
    edited August 2011

    Wow, thanks, didn't know about this site, i will try it.
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  • Wizzie - Raging Tide
    Wizzie - Raging Tide Posts: 191 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    I fixed shards.... I was hoping for more opinions about what should I do next :)
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  • Sirrobert - Dreamweaver
    Sirrobert - Dreamweaver Posts: 3,395 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    Well, I think I don't get more survival. I will explain:

    With my build, if they hit me with physical for (let's say) 10.000, the damage is reduced by 71%(63%+8% from gears), so I get only 29% of the attack, meaning 2900. 2900 damage is exactly 50% of my hp.
    With the other build, if they hit me with physical for 10.000, the damage is reduced by 67%(59%+8% from gears), so I get only 33% of the attack, meaning 3300. 3300 damage would be 52% of my hp.
    (all this self-buffed)
    So it seems that my hp is going down faster with citrines only.

    Also, I know the hp would help me to defend against magic attacks too, but just for physical, isn't my build better?

    Correct me if im wrong...

    Reduce phys dmg taken is an extra layer of defence, it doesn't add to your phys defence

    So it's 63% reduction ==> 3700, and that reduced by 8%

    Also, if you want us to see your ACTUAL stats, so we can give you accurate help
    TURN OF THE FREAKING BUFS
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  • Questro - Lost City
    Questro - Lost City Posts: 40 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    Well, I think I don't get more survival. I will explain:

    With my build, if they hit me with physical for (let's say) 10.000, the damage is reduced by 71%(63%+8% from gears), so I get only 29% of the attack, meaning 2900. 2900 damage is exactly 50% of my hp.
    With the other build, if they hit me with physical for 10.000, the damage is reduced by 67%(59%+8% from gears), so I get only 33% of the attack, meaning 3300. 3300 damage would be 52% of my hp.
    (all this self-buffed)
    So it seems that my hp is going down faster with citrines only.

    Also, I know the hp would help me to defend against magic attacks too, but just for physical, isn't my build better?

    Correct me if im wrong...

    All damage is being reduce by 75% in pvp, I just think using 10k pvp damage to calculate is high. You are thinking of fighting a rank 9 +12 archer. Try a lower number like 5-7k and the HP shard will help survive better.

    so without buff

    Your build have 5786 HP and 63% physical defence which mean 37% damage will be taken.
    Other build have 6258HP and 59% defence with mean 41% damage will be taken.

    You are trading 6% physical reduction to gain 8% increase on HP.

    There isnt much of a difference on survival toward physical attack that you might notice. However with magic attack, you will notice a difference.

    Also as your physical defence get higher and higher, the % reduce will be less and less up to a point where it will just cap at 90%. So in the end if you continue to refine your gear, HP shard will always be a better choice compare to garnet shard.
    A crit from Archer usually hurt but a crit from wiz usually mean death.
  • Wizzie - Raging Tide
    Wizzie - Raging Tide Posts: 191 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    Yes, I understand that... I got my shards to hp now. But I was thinking more for what I will do next. I mean, which gears to aim for next? refine? sharding better?? what to do next?
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  • anzor2680
    anzor2680 Posts: 2 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    hi, me sin (demon) , http://pwcalc.com/578ccb5c78cdbdab end got in game 2.5 aps , please tell me, what i do for get 3.33 aps . just dont give me it. i using nirvana dagger, meybe i can`t get 5 aps b:surrender
  • Wizzie - Raging Tide
    Wizzie - Raging Tide Posts: 191 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    anzor2680 wrote: »
    hi, me sin (demon) , http://pwcalc.com/578ccb5c78cdbdab end got in game 2.5 aps , please tell me, what i do for get 3.33 aps . just dont give me it. i using nirvana dagger, meybe i can`t get 5 aps b:surrender

    This is wizard section, why do you post here? b:chuckle
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  • Ursa - Dreamweaver
    Ursa - Dreamweaver Posts: 2,634 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    anzor2680 wrote: »
    hi, me sin (demon) , http://pwcalc.com/578ccb5c78cdbdab end got in game 2.5 aps , please tell me, what i do for get 3.33 aps . just dont give me it. i using nirvana dagger, meybe i can`t get 5 aps b:surrender

    you're missing a nirvana dagger and an interval tome.
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  • Wizzie - Raging Tide
    Wizzie - Raging Tide Posts: 191 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    For example: is this a good build to aim for ? http://pwcalc.com/8a5bed6bcdd955bf

    or this for endgame: http://pwcalc.com/1e61cffc97cff84d
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  • Sun_Burn - Lost City
    Sun_Burn - Lost City Posts: 579 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    For example: is this a good build to aim for ? http://pwcalc.com/8a5bed6bcdd955bf

    or this for endgame: http://pwcalc.com/1e61cffc97cff84d

    if you can afford full sharded jades and +10 gears I'd go for rank 9
  • Wizzie - Raging Tide
    Wizzie - Raging Tide Posts: 191 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    I can afford... in... 1-2 years maybe... I was just saying.
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  • Sirrobert - Dreamweaver
    Sirrobert - Dreamweaver Posts: 3,395 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    you're missing a nirvana dagger and an interval tome.

    Interval tome and G13 nirvana would give him 4base. Only G13 nirvana is 3.33 base (and thus 5aps sparked).
    But yes, get back to your own forum dude.

    @Wizzie
    That first build is fine. Personaly I have gold OHT sleeves that are even better, but you'd have to be very lucky to find something like that.
    Also Warsong or Jungle belt is better than the chrono belt, but not THAT much better, so up to you if you want them (abit more defence, for alot more money).

    1 thing I'd add, is try to aim for 4 socket R8 top. It's a 10% chance, so in theory it'll cost you 10 mill if you keep getting a new top each day (in theory ofcourse. I know people who have tryd for 2 months, and some who got it the first day)
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  • Wizzie - Raging Tide
    Wizzie - Raging Tide Posts: 191 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    Interval tome and G13 nirvana would give him 4base. Only G13 nirvana is 3.33 base (and thus 5aps sparked).
    But yes, get back to your own forum dude.

    @Wizzie
    That first build is fine. Personaly I have gold OHT sleeves that are even better, but you'd have to be very lucky to find something like that.
    Also Warsong or Jungle belt is better than the chrono belt, but not THAT much better, so up to you if you want them (abit more defence, for alot more money).

    1 thing I'd add, is try to aim for 4 socket R8 top. It's a 10% chance, so in theory it'll cost you 10 mill if you keep getting a new top each day (in theory ofcourse. I know people who have tryd for 2 months, and some who got it the first day)

    I tried to get it... failed 20 times, so i stopped. I will just make it with socket stones b:cry
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  • AsimM - Raging Tide
    AsimM - Raging Tide Posts: 182 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    Lol Wizzie. I got my R8 top to 4 sockets the first time I bought it. I stole your luck b:laugh
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