Cleric TW video

Tryagain - Harshlands
Tryagain - Harshlands Posts: 716 Arc User
edited October 2011 in Cleric
Hey guys,

Just curious for some feedback from other servers. Suggestions/comments/tips? (I'm looking in terms of playing the game, not the **** poor video editing, lol)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wtX1TJ95QKg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r9MYbwBSG6o


Also if someone knows of some good cleric TW vids, link em here. Seeing TW vids is often more useful than any guide can possibly be.
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  • Ahira - Lost City
    Ahira - Lost City Posts: 791 Arc User
    edited July 2011
    Probably not that many out there- cleric tw video's tend to be a bit boring. b:chuckle I remember i saw a decent one quite a while back but i cant seem to find it now unfortunately.

    If I manage to get into tw this weekend i'll see if i can make a vid, though u probably wont learn much- i havent done tw in 6 months! xD
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  • CamelCigars - Harshlands
    CamelCigars - Harshlands Posts: 47 Arc User
    edited July 2011
    Hey
    far from good tw video. Actually still really noob but still its my video of tw as a cleric.
    it wasnt edit (cause i relly dont know how to d that). And was supose to be a fac video only but since someone already found it and posted..
    but there you go.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZNrTPb6wg4

    This video its good to see what are the major mistakes..


    PS: to all portuguese people im sorry for the bad language. my bad..
  • Daedallus - Sanctuary
    Daedallus - Sanctuary Posts: 554 Arc User
    edited July 2011
    Hey
    far from good tw video. Actually still really noob but still its my video of tw as a cleric.
    it wasnt edit (cause i relly dont know how to d that). And was supose to be a fac video only but since someone already found it and posted..
    but there you go.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZNrTPb6wg4

    This video its good to see what are the major mistakes..


    PS: to all portuguese people im sorry for the bad language. my bad..

    No problem, you can't understand anything cause the sound sucks :P

    You should apologize to brazilian players too :P
  • CamelCigars - Harshlands
    CamelCigars - Harshlands Posts: 47 Arc User
    edited July 2011
    No problem, you can't understand anything cause the sound sucks :P

    You should apologize to brazilian players too :P

    yes to all brazilians and palop comunity to.
  • ttkitty1
    ttkitty1 Posts: 8 Arc User
    edited July 2011
    back to topic i think this 2 clerics (tryagain and CamelCigars) dont have a clue for what is a cleric in tw. Specially camelcigars. For the love of god woman you didnt seal anyone. jus spam IH. WTF???
  • StacysMum - Dreamweaver
    StacysMum - Dreamweaver Posts: 305 Arc User
    edited July 2011
    The fail started at having 9230 mp at lvl 102.

    So you went into TW as a healer without max MAG stat. Why did you bother its not like putting points into VIT helps a cleric in any way whatsoever in pvp. For instance you probably put 47 into VIT for an extra 470 hp, somthing every other class can knock off with a **** or dubious stare in your general direction.

    Clerics suck, you might as well be the best sucker you can be, ijs XD

    My bad 9283 mp, turn off softner, I know it makes the crappy graphics look half decent, but you killing my eyes.
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  • Eoria - Harshlands
    Eoria - Harshlands Posts: 6,118 Arc User
    edited July 2011
    I can't tell if you guys are trolling or not.
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  • Gold$Digger - Harshlands
    Gold$Digger - Harshlands Posts: 18 Arc User
    edited July 2011
    eheh the first cleric has more hp then mp...b:chuckleb:chuckle
  • JanusZeal - Heavens Tear
    JanusZeal - Heavens Tear Posts: 3,852 Arc User
    edited July 2011
    Eheheheh cuz while they may not be pure magic, they're heavily sharded/refined and all clerics that heavily sharded/refined will have more hp than mp. Fail troll.
  • CamelCigars - Harshlands
    CamelCigars - Harshlands Posts: 47 Arc User
    edited July 2011
    I liked the way Tryagain plays. i know i still have a lot to learn and my gear is not end game gear. my build is pure mag i add few vit points ar first lvls i have 13 vit points without any gear. and i really would apreciate some advice so i can improve. i had some feedback and i know some points i can improve: use more SoR for the barb. WS for the others.
    About DDing well i really dont have the time for that. if you see all war you see everytime i was doing DD, well the cata died. so no im not really worried about dd'ing. my first concern is the "my" cata barb. then if the other cleric is in troubles and last the dds. and if i see i have the time the barb is holding up the rest of squad is good ill rez the dead people around. thats my view and experience of a cleric in tw.
  • Tryagain - Harshlands
    Tryagain - Harshlands Posts: 716 Arc User
    edited July 2011
    Yeah I'm just going to chalk up those comments to them being on pve servers, lol.



    Camel, my suggestion to you is to change your priorities. Purifying amp/dragon/elemental seal, and rebuffing magic shell goes way further towards helping the cata barb survive than heals do. When your barbs are fully buffed and not debuffed at all, then heal.

    Also, try not to have tunnel vision on just one barb. You have to prioritize them, but keep an eye on your whole squad.
  • Halt - Harshlands
    Halt - Harshlands Posts: 452 Arc User
    edited July 2011
    i Can't Tell If You Guys Are Trolling Or Not.

    Qfttttttttt
    Unban me.
  • Mitachi - Dreamweaver
    Mitachi - Dreamweaver Posts: 1,201 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    i really enjoyed the video. For the record if she restated the vit she has she only losses a bit of hp it wont make a difference in her survival. I basically heal R9's and cata barb in squad, i haven't been to a heavy tw in 3weeks so couldn't test my new hp yet (been sick) but after watching your video i can't wait.
  • StacysMum - Dreamweaver
    StacysMum - Dreamweaver Posts: 305 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    Yeah I'm just going to chalk up those comments to them being on pve servers, lol.

    Because the pvp servers have awesomely different TW and pvp mechanics perhaps? Or because you fail at math?
    i really enjoyed the video. For the record if she restated the vit she has she only losses a bit of hp it wont make a difference in her survival. I basically heal R9's and cata barb in squad, i haven't been to a heavy tw in 3weeks so couldn't test my new hp yet (been sick) but after watching your video i can't wait.

    Yes my point exactly, she should restat the damn vit instead of accusing ppl of trolling because lets face it you're gonna die reguardless might as well have more healing power. You know that thing you were doing in the whole damn video XD
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  • Ahira - Lost City
    Ahira - Lost City Posts: 791 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    There have been some cleric tw video's posted in the lost city forums these past couple of days if anybody's interested.
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  • Eoria - Harshlands
    Eoria - Harshlands Posts: 6,118 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    An extra 1k or so HP unbuffed can and does make a difference in whether or not you're a ****ing one-shot. Your heals mean **** if you go down so fast that you can't even use them. kthxbai.

    @Ahira ~ Thanks. Will go check them out.

    Try's posted a couple vids from last weekend and I made one as well though I'm not the greatest cleric and I don't really have too too much experience with one in TW. Recording was a good idea though so I can see where I made mistakes and I've already gotten some advice on where to improve so this week's should be better.

    Try's vids: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V1zs-uQmwbw and http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lLPiIFMlaAQ
    Mine: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7g3PGHRgoHc
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  • Tryagain - Harshlands
    Tryagain - Harshlands Posts: 716 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    Because the pvp servers have awesomely different TW and pvp mechanics perhaps? Or because you fail at math?

    Yes my point exactly, she should restat the damn vit instead of accusing ppl of trolling because lets face it you're gonna die reguardless might as well have more healing power. You know that thing you were doing in the whole damn video XD

    #1 mp doesn't matter.....at all.
    #2 I'm using the pataka, it's for survival, not for healing power. You should be complaining about that, not 50 vit. You obviously have different priorities than me. You sound like a metal mage, which would explain the difference.

    My priorities are:
    1)keeping cata barbs buffed
    2)keeping cata barbs purified
    3)staying alive
    4)keeping high damage characters slept
    5)healing

    Yes, healing is at the bottom of the list.

    In case you are really insistent that healing is my top priority, and use my r8 weapon isntead of the pataka. Put it in PW Calc.

    buffed, with my vit
    11427 hp
    11547 pdef
    11743-15037 mattack

    buffed, with 3 vit
    10643 hp
    11334 pdef
    12819-16415 mattack

    Heals use around 30% of your mattack. So i'm either gaining slightly over 300 hp per heal. Or gaining 800 hp and 200 pdef. Personally I'd go with the survivability, it's a personal preference. Not sure why you feel so strongly about this.

    If you notice, I don't die very often. The people that take me out are +12 r9 sins and occasionally +12 r9 mages if i'm being focus fired. I generally don't get a chance to heal myself. Surviving is done through plume shell, genie skills, pots, and kiting. If you're sitting still spam healing yourself and not casting anything else, maybe that's why you die so often and wish you had more healing power. If your opponents ignore you, maybe that's why you'd rather more healing power.
  • RioNHale - Archosaur
    RioNHale - Archosaur Posts: 566 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    Yeah I'm just going to chalk up those comments to them being on pve servers, lol.



    Camel, my suggestion to you is to change your priorities. Purifying amp/dragon/elemental seal, and rebuffing magic shell goes way further towards helping the cata barb survive than heals do. When your barbs are fully buffed and not debuffed at all, then heal.

    Also, try not to have tunnel vision on just one barb. You have to prioritize them, but keep an eye on your whole squad.



    If anyone thinks you should be full magic for heals being a cata cleric, they are an idiot.
    having that extra hp can, even if people argue with you, save you over and over again.
    A dead full mag cleric isnt helping anyone.

    your 100% correct puris/buffs > heals for cata barbs.


    11k hp cleric is much more valuable than mr.******_cleric, obsessed with the whole "ZOMG IM DAH FULL MAGIC 7K HP LOLOLOL" because they think they can play metal mage in tw and for pk but still get 2 shot by sins but maybe ninja tempest people once in a blue moon.

    whoever the stupid person talking about your mp is... srsly, just wear an mp charm and herbs and it wont matter if u have 5k mp, thats the first person ive heard **** about 9k mp being too low hahaha.

    My wife has a 100 base vit cleric with like 10k hp she outlives most other clerics in tw.
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  • StacysMum - Dreamweaver
    StacysMum - Dreamweaver Posts: 305 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    I'm sure the + 470 hp you get from adding VIT to 50 makes a difference, especially after you die and respawn away from the barbs with no buffs. I mean sure its great on a first push but what about after that? I don't know what the DDs do on your server but killing the cata barb healer usually ranks pretty high on the list of things to do (quite fun actually b:chuckle). No, nobody goes full MAG for MP why did that thought even cross your mind, I made a pure Mag build to maximise heals and damage for multiroling (if you got a cleric just for TW thats great, but lets face it cleric damage and dps is very poor which hurts your pvp ability if you stat VIT). No, no amount of HP will ever save your a*** for long enough in a TW unless you are fortunate to be fighting recently hypered *******.
    I'm not saying you are a bad cleric or if your TW tactics are wrong, you can roll your own style. It just kills me to see a cleric built like someone who owns a Veno, not saying you do have one but its making me itch XD.
    I still call it on turning the softner off in settings though before you shoot a video, you obviously have a nice comp, but I wanna see everything thats happening in the best possible clarity D:

    Sry for not quoting, I was lazy b:bye

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  • Nyxyo - Harshlands
    Nyxyo - Harshlands Posts: 233 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    tw cleric is totally different build ...you are no use in tw if you are dead all time.....so first problem is to be able to live long enough to do anything and tryagain was able to escape me several times with 100-300hp....beside he is cata cleric so he has hp buf all around...

    my cleric also is not pure magic ..i think only reliable way to make a pure magic cleric for tw is if you go rank9+10 or +12 ...and even then you might want little more vitalityb:chuckle
  • Mrvate - Heavens Tear
    Mrvate - Heavens Tear Posts: 406 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    I can't tell if you guys are trolling or not.

    my exact thoughts.
  • Eoria - Harshlands
    Eoria - Harshlands Posts: 6,118 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    I made a pure Mag build to maximise heals and damage for multiroling (if you got a cleric just for TW thats great, but lets face it cleric damage and dps is very poor which hurts your pvp ability if you stat VIT).

    DDing is the LAST thing you should be doing in TW as a cleric.
    I'm not saying you are a bad cleric or if your TW tactics are wrong, you can roll your own style. It just kills me to see a cleric built like someone who owns a Veno, not saying you do have one but its making me itch XD.

    What does this even mean?
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  • Mrvate - Heavens Tear
    Mrvate - Heavens Tear Posts: 406 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    What does this even mean?

    I think she's referring to the commonness of veno's going high vit because they have pets to do the dd'ing for them, and that they get more hp per vit then any casters.

    But as far as what I think about vit on a cleric... well I have over 200 base vit, so yeah...
  • Decus - Dreamweaver
    Decus - Dreamweaver Posts: 5,033 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    Lol@full mag cata clerics b:chuckle
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  • StacysMum - Dreamweaver
    StacysMum - Dreamweaver Posts: 305 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    Lol@full vit cata clerics b:chuckle

    <3 Dec, But seriously stop trolling other ppls threads (I was here first) b:cool

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  • Decus - Dreamweaver
    Decus - Dreamweaver Posts: 5,033 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    <3 Dec, But seriously stop trolling other ppls threads (I was here first) b:cool

    Youtube - Definition of Insanity FC3

    b:sad Trolling is all I have left here b:surrender

    Plus I was trolling this forum long before you >:o
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  • StacysMum - Dreamweaver
    StacysMum - Dreamweaver Posts: 305 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    b:sad Trolling is all I have left here b:surrender

    Plus I was trolling this forum long before you >:o
    You'll have to forgive my poor memory, but do I know you?
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    No you don't know me, that was a troll too XD (see I'm better at this than you b:kiss)
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  • Decus - Dreamweaver
    Decus - Dreamweaver Posts: 5,033 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    No you don't know me, that was a troll too XD (see I'm better at this than you b:kiss)

    If you say so. Whatever helps you sleep at night, I suppose.



    And fyi, sometimes the reason people do the same thing over and over is because it works. In my experience, unless TW is significantly different now, being a TW cleric is a pretty standardized and set role. Deviation from one's purpose tends to hamper the efforts of the squad. If you want to build your cleric for versatility in other pvp aspects of the game (TW and 1v1 pk, for example), then don't heal a cat squad. Ever wonder why claw or str barbs make such crappy cat pullers?
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  • StacysMum - Dreamweaver
    StacysMum - Dreamweaver Posts: 305 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    If you say so. Whatever helps you sleep at night, I suppose.



    being a TW cleric is a pretty standardized and set role. Deviation from one's purpose tends to hamper the efforts of the squad.QUOTE]

    So ppl should just except what they are given? Everybody should just make barbs then and ftw b:kiss

    oops on quote XD

    I have no intention of ever being a cata cleric btw, I cannot imagine anything more boring week after week after week. Oh wait yes, I could be a cata barb, that would freakin suck majorly XD
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  • Eoria - Harshlands
    Eoria - Harshlands Posts: 6,118 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    So ppl should just except what they are given? Everybody should just make barbs then and ftw b:kiss

    oops on quote XD

    I have no intention of ever being a cata cleric btw, I cannot imagine anything more boring week after week after week. Oh wait yes, I could be a cata barb, that would freakin suck majorly XD

    It doesn't matter if you're put on the cata team or not. You should still be sticking to your job of buffing/purifying/healing/ressing no matter which squad you're put in. If you just want to DD, then roll a mage or a psy.
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