New Guide

i can contribute if someone takes initiative (or isn't as swamped with RL obligations as i am), but it seems like more effort than it's worth to try to start compiling tactics from scratch. it's easier to show than tell, so to speak, and if i'm going to help someone understand a class i'd rather show in-game.

I guess the first thing someone (or all of us) should do is create an outline for what we would want to include in the guide, and then we could add to it (or maybe even create a wiki.. haha). So for ex..

I. The wizard's role (why we suck in pve)
II. The build
...A. Armor type
...B. Sage/Demon
...C. Genie
...D. etc
III. Tips and Tricks
... etc etc etc

Obviously this is just a rough example, but I'd be willing to contribute if someone wants to organize it a bit :P (our organizer can't be someone **** though.. I think we all know the few I'm thinking about.. kthx)

I'll just add a little whenever I'm bored, but to start you might include a list of links.. here are the ones I have found useful. (you can include whichever you want.. don't need to include them all if you don't want :P)

http://pwi-wiki.perfectworld.com/index.php/Main_Page
http://www.pwdatabase.com/pwi/
http://pwcalc.com/
http://www.ecatomb.net/pwi/home.php
http://aster.ohmydays.net/pw/geniecalculator.html
http://aster.ohmydays.net/pw/socketcalculator.html
http://pequette.comuf.com/
https://spreadsheets.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?hl=en&hl=en&key=tauRiuICfJ949xXxQSgn8_w&authkey=CN-3hpEJ#gid=0

http://pwinsider.wordpress.com/ - merchanting guides (we need some way to make money)

youtube vids
http://www.youtube.com/user/D2VeT -mine
http://www.youtube.com/user/bowlinbob6 - sun_burn
http://www.youtube.com/user/TheMyc1k - some russian demon mage
http://www.youtube.com/user/nyczyang27 -nurfed
http://www.youtube.com/user/haizinator - haiz

Looking at the ways to kite a melee class, you can (* indicates genie skills)..

Distance Shrink - 10 second cooldown
FoW - 18 to 20 second cooldown
*Fortify - 30 second cooldown + 55 energy
*Badge of Courage - 30 second cooldown + 75 energy
*Holy path - 1 second cooldown + 75 energy
*wind force - like 15 second cooldown? (not sure) and 40ish energy
Apoth (vacuity/immune etc) - 2 minute cooldown
Switching from air to ground (or vice versa) - anytime

Other genie skills really aren't worth using to kite.
What I mean by switching from air to ground or ground to air is basically getting on or off a flying mount. So if you and your opponent were both on the ground you could double jump and at the max height.. get on your flying mount. This means that your opponent should not be able to hit you (besides some weak ranged skill), and you can fly out of range. If you were in the air you can just get off your flying mount, which will start moving you out of range and mean you immediately start taking half damage. It doesn't save you 100% of the time, but still improves your chances. You can start playing a bit of a game with your opponent just switching over and over. So say you started on the ground, you double jump to get on your flying mount.. you see your opponent jump into the air and get on their mount, and you get off your mount to go back to the ground. Then they drop back down (so they aren't doing half damage) and you get back in the air. This is really just a delay technique that allows your other skills to come off cooldown, but it's saved me numerous times in the past. Just make sure you don't abuse it, at some point your opponent will figure out what you're doing and get a step ahead of you.. but if used properly, melee opponents should be raging because you are so difficult to catch (or hold still).

Nurfed_You - Harshlands wrote: »

The Wizzie forum needs some new guides. We don't need pve advise, lets face it everyoen hypers their wiz to 100-101 and buys gear with an aps char lol. the forum needs a good pvp guide, maybe pvp for beginner wizzies. With all these ppl who just hyper to 100 it really makes wizzies look a lot more fail then they really are.

im open to any ideas about a guide. mail me in game/post here/what ever.

No, we don't need new guides for hyper-babies! If they wanted to hyper to 101 without learning how to play their class, let them get chain stunned by a bm half their level and die. Kthxbai!b:bye

My guide

Find an experience or OP gear target, fight them and if you lose, dont give up, keep trying. Once you beat them 3 times in a roll. Find a harder target and repeat.b:victory

Actually Questro is right. Hard pressed to have people get better if they aren`t fighting people better than them.

Btw Sun, did you use a single apoth in that TW? I was looking at that bar a lot and especially in the death clips at the end, not one time did you die with apothecary in cooldown.

Evanera - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Btw Sun, did you use a single apoth in that TW? I was looking at that bar a lot and especially in the death clips at the end, not one time did you die with apothecary in cooldown.

Honestly no, lol. I hardly ever use pots. I believe with my gear it wouldn't make much of a difference. The only pots I tend to use in TW is instant channel pots depending on the situation. I'll admit im a noob and never really learned when to use what pot in what situation. 'Usually' when I die it's either a 1shot, gank, or a sin I don't see it coming so it's hard for me to know when to pop a dew lol.

Nurfed_You - Harshlands wrote: »

@Sun_Burn get ahold of some dew of star protection. they are like 15-20k each most of the time. and they add a very nice damage buffer for i think 15secs. good when you see a rather large amount of damage incoming.

i have had dews on the hotbar on the right side of my screen next to vacuitys/immune/instant channel pots for like a year and have never touched them.

Once I learn how to use pots in real TWs hopefully my videos will be even better

Sun_Burn - Lost City wrote: »

Honestly no, lol. I hardly ever use pots. I believe with my gear it wouldn't make much of a difference. The only pots I tend to use in TW is instant channel pots depending on the situation. I'll admit im a noob and never really learned when to use what pot in what situation. 'Usually' when I die it's either a 1shot, gank, or a sin I don't see it coming so it's hard for me to know when to pop a dew lol.



i have had dews on the hotbar on the right side of my screen next to vacuitys/immune/instant channel pots for like a year and have never touched them.

Once I learn how to use pots in real TWs hopefully my videos will be even better

when ur being ganked or you see your death coming pop a IronguardPowder(make sure to not get stunned by it) or the OH-**-BUTTON SutraPowerOrb to run backwards or if theres nowhere to run, kill as many as possible before you die

working with immunity pots makes your defenses non-factor

i tend to use demon spark to resist death and then AD and IG so i can pew pew for the spark duration; then instantly die after effect is gone ;oo

hardtothink - Lost City wrote: »

hit Stuff With Spells And Erm Don't Die And Stuff. There Adroits Turn.

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Call me old fashioned but when i was playing my kiting tactics were my favourite part of being a wizard. Albeit they changed depending which class i was fighting.. but i may be able to share a few just so adroit and nurfed_you aren't alone in this. Keep in mind i havent played in almost 6 months so alot may have changed. I was 100 before hypers and all that good stuff

Sin:
This one was always and probably will always be hit and miss with us. If the sin comes outta stealth double sparked with an apoth pot on your screwed. If he is feeling cocky and wants to try and do it without then i would:

-Domain through the first stun (2 sec stun immunity afterwards)
-Sporophic whisper (pray it isnt cancelled by tidal)
- then depending on the sin anti stun or dew
- undine
-FoW
-poke (pyro or gush)
- mountain seize
-hopefully their dead before you have to try and kite...

Tactics are a bit crummy though when the sin AD's or stealths again before u can attack cause now all ur skillz are on CD. Hit or Miss right? anyways that worked for me with sins.

BM's:
These guys are like hit and run... actually what helped me a toooon with these guys is adroits genie guide, i always had badge but adding fortify was a genius move (thanks adroit!)

so with bm's really it would be poke, distance shrink, poke, Fow, ulti?, poke, whisper, when they get near u for a stun make sure to fortify and send them into the defense... if they do stun you badge out of it and continue on your marry way. Also i liked changing from ground to air or pretending too at least to throw them off. If done correctly the bm should not be able to hold you in one place.

Barb's:
They used to be sooooo easy now they all have a million hp (not really but you get the hint) kite kite kite, bring 'em near half ulti and hope for a bypass, if they dont have unreal hp that is. if so u may have to go old school and tick their charm and hope to kill them in 10... good luck. Barbs was always a war of attrition for me.

anyone else?

mountain press for sins is indeed baller status, for dealing with DN. deaden nerves is the one (1) real reason i will, on rare occasions, ***** about sins. with deaden nerves down, i'd rather fight a sin than most other classes.

swiiftshadow wrote: »

shut it noob..... one of the best wizards out there should be the one to make the guide... so get on with making it

lol thx I guess. But I'm now on vacation and won't be back for a couple weeks. I do have internet access (obviously) but I've got other things to do right now

just got back from vacation, I actually started a word document with a bunch of ideas to post.. but my internet was absolute **** (I did a speedtest on my phone.. was like .009/.003 Mbps) lol Anyway it doesn't look like anyone else really got to into this thread, I've got quite a bit as is and I may as well just continue on my own. If I lose interest like I usually do I'll just post what I have, but I'd rather just organize/write it on my own than add a whole bunch of little tid bits and make someone else organize it for me lol