Your know you are in a FAIL group when?
rgog
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I thought I would kick this off with:
You know you are in a FAIL group when:
1. the Barb notifies everyone that he is not going to tank bosses.
2. the Cleric refuses to heal anyone other than the tank (even on AOE bosses).
3. the Cleric refuses to ress anyone else in the group because you let them die.
4. you realize that leaving your group in heads room will net you more exp (see number 3)
You know you are in a FAIL group when:
1. the Barb notifies everyone that he is not going to tank bosses.
2. the Cleric refuses to heal anyone other than the tank (even on AOE bosses).
3. the Cleric refuses to ress anyone else in the group because you let them die.
4. you realize that leaving your group in heads room will net you more exp (see number 3)
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You know you are in a FAIL group when:
1. SinfulNature is NOT in your squad... b:victory b:victory
no but when you have to hurry b/c the instance is about to rest... ha i have seen a squad like this...0 -
I thought I would kick this off with:
You know you are in a FAIL group when:
1. the Barb notifies everyone that he is not going to tank bosses.
2. the Cleric refuses to heal anyone other than the tank (even on AOE bosses).
3. the Cleric refuses to ress anyone else in the group because you let them die.
4. you realize that leaving your group in heads room will net you more exp (see number 3)
I see this and I'm reading this:
High level sin joins party. The barbs let the group know right away they aren't going to be able to keep aggro off of said sin so it's easier to designate the sin tank. Sin however can't handle the aggro, and thus health drops fast. Cleric has a decision to make, keep the sin/tank up or keep spamming aoe heal. For sake of not getting a party wipe, choose the sin. Sin dies anyway, rest of the squad wipes. Sin keeps rushing ahead aggroing things they can't handle and the cleric gets heal aggro and dies, refuses to rez the sin anymore. Sin blames the barb and cleric.
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I thought I would kick this off with:
You know you are in a FAIL group when:
1. the Barb notifies everyone that he is not going to tank bosses.
2. the Cleric refuses to heal anyone other than the tank (even on AOE bosses).
3. the Cleric refuses to ress anyone else in the group because you let them die.
4. you realize that leaving your group in heads room will net you more exp (see number 3)
1. Barbs usually dont tank bosses in squads 90+ since they cant hold aggro. Blame the developers not the barbs.
2. If a boss is using amp/debuffs on the tank you might not have time to keep everyones health up with AOE heals. If the boss also uses curses that effects the Cleric like seal, mp-burn, sleep, Magic DoTs etc there is no way in hell you're gonna be able to support the DDs as well unless you have 100% changeling and 5 ping.
3. Avoiding a party wipe is always more important than ressing crappy random DDs that cant even keep themselves alive or control aggro. Smart DDs will bring a ress-scroll for hard bosses and take a bit of responsibility themselves.
4. Usually you will figure out if a squad sucks already at first/second boss and leave party
I kinda get the same feeling as above poster lol. Sin joins party and cant tank since his HP sucks, but he refuses to control aggro and dies repetitively. He blames the Cleric and the Barb and starts raging about fail squads. If your gear is so trash that you cant even handle 2-3 hits from a boss than dont steal aggro b:bye0 -
Yes, some of those facts are correct. There was a poorly equipped 95 SIN in group, I was a 91 SIN with just average equip. I don't complain when i get hit by taking aggro, just use my crab meat and start doing a bit of skill spam/debuff.
The barb declared they would not tank because of repair costs....I offered to give 60k towards them but got no response. Yes SIN died a couple of times and that caused others to take aggro and die as well.
Mystic had hands but forgot about them, group wiped. Pyscic AOE'ed by mistake another wipe. Both were in the high 80's....so ya I guess I knew it was a fail group but lately it can be hard to find a barb for fc and all guild barbs are 101+
So yes the blame can be spread around, add into the mix that a couple of the players were probably 13 year old kids and I guess the recipe for fail was inevitable.0 -
Barb aggro skills are way past obsolete especially from 99 on. After 100 they are non existent. Most times I feel like I'm just there to hit devour and watch the fun. You can hit roar and aps dd steals aggro before the 10sec damage return has time to do anything. You can hit flesh ream, may get a pop or two from the boss then back to aps dd. The OHT79 aggro skill doesnt even turn a bosses head.
Theres only one reason to be an axe/hammer barb after 100 and thats to pull a cata.0 -
When you join a bh party, last man in says he has tabs and 30 minutes later you are still explaining how to get wines. Finally say to hell with it. Town portal then head back to
Arch, grab wines, port back in, kill first boss and someone says I have to go turn this in. 10 minutes later they still not back you ask where are they and they say flying back in because they don't have enough money to teleport. Gotta love random squads0 -
Titsania - Lost City wrote: »When you join a bh party, last man in says he has tabs and 30 minutes later you are still explaining how to get wines. Finally say to hell with it. Town portal then head back to
Arch, grab wines, port back in, kill first boss and someone says I have to go turn this in. 10 minutes later they still not back you ask where are they and they say flying back in because they don't have enough money to teleport. Gotta love random squads
I hate when that happens
U miss the part when party spend 40 mins explaining the last man how to get the last 2 tabs just to know he missed 1 quest of the tabs chain >.<[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
You know your in a fail faction when, for the past week your faction leader has repeatedly been too busy running Frost to be bothered with your requests for help with a FB59 and then when you respond to a faction lowbies request for help with a FB39 it turns out to be a multi-iboxed team of the faction leader's baby alts.
You know your 'friends' are fail when one joins your BH team, and you drop credits for wines and stone in to a BH, wait 10-15 minutes in the instance for them to show. Before they make it in though several other 'friend's log in and convince your first 'friend' to join their 105 led Frost run, which has no room for you.
Gotta love those kind of 'friends and faction-mates'.Just some guy0 -
When your main tank, a lv62 barb, asks "whats aggro?" and tells you that you could play your characters better. DX
The whole story was that the barb ran in a couple mobs and didn't grab aggro of them all DX. The cleric healed, the two leftover mobs ran towards cleric and died. Rest of the team killed them all, and I was blamed for not having gotten aggro instead. By the barb nonetheless DX. He then told me I should play better.
The cleric never came back, we had to get a new one, and at the end, the barb asked what aggro was x_x.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
I thought I would kick this off with:
You know you are in a FAIL group when:
1. the Barb notifies everyone that he is not going to tank bosses.
2. the Cleric refuses to heal anyone other than the tank (even on AOE bosses).
3. the Cleric refuses to ress anyone else in the group because you let them die.
4. you realize that leaving your group in heads room will net you more exp (see number 3)
1. Not sure when is the last time I seem a barb tank a boss.
2. Why would cleric need to heal everyone in the party... thats just stupid. Use a freaking pot.
3. No comment.
4. Pretty sure if i kill a head alone I'll get more exp then when when I kill a head in squad (which I have to share exp).1. If I kill you; do something about it yourself, don't go complaining to my wife.
2. If you have less kill counts then me, don't expect me to take pk advice from you.
3. If you are hiding behind an alt, don't expect me to acknowledge your existence.
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brazenbusboy wrote: »You know your in a fail faction when, for the past week your faction leader has repeatedly been too busy running Frost to be bothered with your requests for help with a FB59 and then when you respond to a faction lowbies request for help with a FB39 it turns out to be a multi-iboxed team of the faction leader's baby alts.
Haha, sounds familiar.
Well, I know I'm in a fail squad when everyone starts speaking spanish or something ^_^
Or.... something like this happens.
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I thought I would kick this off with:
You know you are in a FAIL group when:
1. the Barb notifies everyone that he is not going to tank bosses.
2. the Cleric refuses to heal anyone other than the tank (even on AOE bosses).
3. the Cleric refuses to ress anyone else in the group because you let them die.
4. you realize that leaving your group in heads room will net you more exp (see number 3)
You are already blaming the cleric and the barb for a fail squad, I see no mention of a damage dealer acting like an idiot (your case?) stupid players these days... stop blaming the barb and cleric for everything, if you got aggro and was two shotted is your own stupid fault, if the boss aoe drink a freaking HP pot, dont wait until you die and blame the cleric for it.0 -
You know you're in a fail group when:
1. The cleric rages when a herc veno can tank and barb cant (funny but true).
2. A mystic heals a veno's pet/own pet while luring.
3. When a barb goes AFK in the middle of attacking something (nearly died, thanks to the squad that killed the mob fast enough to leave him with 20 hp or so)
4. When a sin doesn't hide and lures a bunch of mobs "accidentally".
5. When a squad can't do a boss and veno says leave aggro to pet and first thing they do is spark - atk. lol.
6. When a veno doesn't know what "amp" means when being 80+.
7. When the cleric doesn't use Iron Heart and uses Purehearted as main healing skill.
8. When someone says "I went demon because the spark is pretty" *facepalm*
9. When a veno doesn't know what pet luring means *epicfacepalm*
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Chickpea - Lost City wrote: »1. Barbs usually dont tank bosses in squads 90+ since they cant hold aggro. Blame the developers not the barbs.
Developers did fine; it's the players that can't seem to adjust.4. Usually you will figure out if a squad sucks already at first/second boss and leave party
Unfortunately fail squads are very common in BH Metal which isn't always discovered until you've already invested 2 mirages and 15 minutes into it.I kinda get the same feeling as above poster lol. Sin joins party and cant tank since his HP sucks, but he refuses to control aggro and dies repetitively. He blames the Cleric and the Barb and starts raging about fail squads. If your gear is so trash that you cant even handle 2-3 hits from a boss than dont steal aggro b:bye
Well, had a whinebutt BM calling my sin a Sissy for holding back on Snakefist today despite not having Barb buffs or a strong cleric. Yeah, there are a lot of nub sins out there too that could just Subsea, Rib Strike, etc instead of erupt.
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I look at things like their MP pool for early warning of poor healing / dd. I wish more BMs would pay attention to this than follow some stupid set guide for building auras in Rebirth. (Pure mag wiz with a vit build cleric probably needs a health aura rather than a 4th or more atk aura). Anything with claws that isn't a BM or Barb is a laugh. I've WC'd for BH metal stating in the WC: "pulling whole groups at a time" and gotten squads with 4 melee classes that all ignore the dinos and demand we pull runners first.
Regarding the OP:
I don't consider Barbs exclusive tankers. All classes can tank and DD. The Barb is actually good for announcing this to nubs that may assume.
I typically have no problem with the cleric that refuses to heal others if others don't have to participate. Many have blood paint, avoidance methods, self heals, etc. If someone has a problem: they can go hide while cleric wastes more MP for being inept.0 -
Asgardeus - Sanctuary wrote: »
Haha, sounds familiar.
Well, I know I'm in a fail squad when everyone starts speaking spanish or something ^_^
Or.... something like this happens.
Thats why people that are not english speakers should not play these games, how the hell do they get to understand the game? - I still keep wondering that.
<- Spanish is my main lang. btw so no rage lol.WTB> -12% channeling BELT or RING pm me with link or mail me ingame HT server, ty.0 -
There have been many occasions that ive known id eneded up in a fail sqd due to someone saying/doing something stupid but the one that sticks in my mind happened only last week.
I joined a bh 69 sqd to get a contract done and the lvl 88 venos said, and i quote, 'hey wounded please giive me bloodpaint' ..... after asking for it 2-3 times and me saying each time it doesnt work for veno he/she declared me the biggest noob on the server and left the sqd. The whole thing felt so surreal i had doubts it actually happened but the other 4 members of the sqd assured me it did b:laugh0 -
Most of these posts deal with people not understanding simple mechanics of the game, but more than just that, what aggravates me is in squad based instances and call them "FAIL" is where people selfishly do whatever they want. For example:
- During FF when other people pull mobs randomly when there's already a designated puller in the squad. Generally when my wife goes on her 93 barb or a friend of mine on her 95/96 barb there's like a 90% chance that if there's a BM or seeker in the squad that doesn't normally run with us they are going to run out in front of them to pull. I know most people nowadays are used to seekers or BM's doing the pulls, however, when you see a barb in the squad please let them pull. We know you can pull already. One seeker went out of his way to tell the barb friend of ours her only use in the squad was buffs and we promptly booted them from squad and found a seeker more willing to work with the squad instead of be such an ******. We generally finish in less than 45 mins anyways -- we don't need someone being an idiot to make it possibly take longer.
- People who run out to solo bosses in FF or BH when no healer is around. I suppose that's fine if one can actually do that reasonably, but most die and then cry "no heals?". I ran with my mystic and while we were turning in the heads quest this seeker ran through the harpy up the ramp and at the boss. Somehow the harpy had reset and was attacking the wizard so we killed it, and by the time I got to the seeker their HP was low, but I said **** it and let them die. Unfortunately there's many clerics and other healers that just run after idiots and get themselves killed too. Not me. I let them die.0 -
Such long explanations people need to learn to simplify:
when you join a random squad.BladedZero - Sanctuary
"Also I don't think actually playing through the game helps your skill either."
-And we wonder why this game has gone to hell b:cute0 -
Or invite random people to your squad.Traz - Dreamweaver wrote: »Such long explanations people need to learn to simplify:
when you join a random squad.
But yeah, I agree.0 -
When the cleric doesn't purify a single time in bh59... I actually asked him to do so, asked him if he had the skill... no answer at all. (Please don't squad me with him at pole...)
Agro switches at boss (omg sins seriously lower your damage output if you can't tank the boss + incompetent cleric ><) I grab agro back and the cleric doesn't bother to even throw a single IH at me and starts ress the next person ._."
(and no, pots and ToP couldn't keep up with the damage ofo was dealing while the cleric was ress 2 dead sins and getting them back to full health ._.)[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
Chickpea - Lost City wrote: »1. Barbs usually dont tank bosses in squads 90+ since they cant hold aggro. Blame the developers not the barbs.
2. If a boss is using amp/debuffs on the tank you might not have time to keep everyones health up with AOE heals. If the boss also uses curses that effects the Cleric like seal, mp-burn, sleep, Magic DoTs etc there is no way in hell you're gonna be able to support the DDs as well unless you have 100% changeling and 5 ping.
3. Avoiding a party wipe is always more important than ressing crappy random DDs that cant even keep themselves alive or control aggro. Smart DDs will bring a ress-scroll for hard bosses and take a bit of responsibility themselves.
4. Usually you will figure out if a squad sucks already at first/second boss and leave party
I kinda get the same feeling as above poster lol. Sin joins party and cant tank since his HP sucks, but he refuses to control aggro and dies repetitively. He blames the Cleric and the Barb and starts raging about fail squads. If your gear is so trash that you cant even handle 2-3 hits from a boss than dont steal aggro b:bye
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High lv cleric can't even keep up with the mobs.
Sin just charges in toward the shade without stealth.
Seeker/BM attacks while the cleric is too far away to heal anyone.
And my personal favorite. The barb pulls normally, then at the end goes human without even invoking (Facepalm), sparks (epic facepalm), and tries to use Armageddon (godly facepalm!). True story.
The above barb left, and the team called me to take over (thus I heard the tale). Said barb then wanted back in. When we wouldn't take him, he called the guy he thought was the leader a scammer and continued to rage for about half an hour on world chat. Eggo, idiocy, arrogance, noob, and epic fail all in one furry package. It would have made me cry if I wasn't laughing so hard."Impatience walks with disaster." My own phrase.
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I was in a FC one time with a barb who didn't know fleshream, I had to end up tanking the first boss, Runewolf(He went AFK while I had to solo it) And the rest of the bosses. I was pissed because I was doing my job, and ended up having to solo almost the entire FC uncharmed.
The barb didn't know fleshream.
The cleric didn't know to run away at runewolf.
And the other DDs were actually doing their job like I was, I just out-damaging them.
I found out later that he knew fleshream and how to play, he just didn't like sins and decided I should tank.b:angry[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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I thought I would kick this off with:
You know you are in a FAIL group when:
1. the Barb notifies everyone that he is not going to tank bosses.
2. the Cleric refuses to heal anyone other than the tank (even on AOE bosses).
3. the Cleric refuses to ress anyone else in the group because you let them die.
4. you realize that leaving your group in heads room will net you more exp (see number 3)
OMG!! I would be soooooo Pissed!! You poor thing!! *Hugs*
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One of my favorites was being pulled in to dd an fc which instantly made my head hurt. We moved on and at the bishop boss I was giving instructions again since most hadn't done many and explaining what each pull is what the bosses do and what we all do. Well this one toon gets his knickers in a twist cause I dont know what I'm talking about since everyone knows venos tank the bishop boss so no bishops spawn. I said no, bishops will spawn and boss will still debuff regardless of who is tanking; he got madder saying she at lvl 85 can tank it and he at same ish lvl can do better than our fail squad cause we all don't know what we are talking about. And if a 85 veno can tank bishop boss and not have debuffs and bishops spawn I will gladly take back his sign. lol0
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