Charm Prices....

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Xx_Zero_xX - Dreamweaver
Xx_Zero_xX - Dreamweaver Posts: 156 Arc User
edited July 2011 in General Discussion
hey GM's TW is dying with charms at 6-8mil WTF is this ...charms used to be 1.5mil-2mil many ppl cannot TW because of this.TW is like the only thing left in this freeking game...dont let it Die.Not me tho,i can pay charms for sure... im speaking for others those people that arent that well geared and prefer buying gears than payin 7mil for a damn charm.. so please consider giving us a charm sale this coming week cuz this really sucks b:angryb:angryb:angry
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  • _Perses_ - Lost City
    _Perses_ - Lost City Posts: 1,917 Arc User
    edited July 2011
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    lol, i know i'm in this boat. Either gonna have to drop some real life cash for a charm or sell frost big rooms only. Cause I need a charm to do my solo frosts the way I do in a fast manner :x
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  • LilNai - Harshlands
    LilNai - Harshlands Posts: 481 Arc User
    edited July 2011
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    2.5 charms or a gold boot mat... Hurrrr.

    +1 to OP, can we have a permanent price slash plox >_>
  • _Perses_ - Lost City
    _Perses_ - Lost City Posts: 1,917 Arc User
    edited July 2011
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    WTB> 3 month charm sale.

    paying up to 80 a month on charms!!
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  • Xx_Zero_xX - Dreamweaver
    Xx_Zero_xX - Dreamweaver Posts: 156 Arc User
    edited July 2011
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    so it's the same on other servers b:puzzled
  • _Perses_ - Lost City
    _Perses_ - Lost City Posts: 1,917 Arc User
    edited July 2011
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    Current charm price (AT MINIMUM) on Lost city - 5.5 mil.
    What you normally find them for - 6.5+ mil.
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  • __Kikyo__ - Lost City
    __Kikyo__ - Lost City Posts: 281 Arc User
    edited July 2011
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    charms are not worth 6 gold/6 bucks... ripoff scamb:thanks
  • Traz - Dreamweaver
    Traz - Dreamweaver Posts: 2,843 Arc User
    edited July 2011
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    Xx_Zero_xX - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    hey GM's TW is dying with charms at 6-8mil WTF is this ...charms used to be 1.5mil-2mil many ppl cannot TW because of this.TW is like the only thing left in this freeking game...dont let it Die.Not me tho,i can pay charms for sure... im speaking for others those people that arent that well geared and prefer buying gears than payin 7mil for a damn charm.. so please consider giving us a charm sale this coming week cuz this really sucks b:angryb:angryb:angry

    I believe PWI is saying in your terminology I see in world chat:

    Charge or GTFO


    b:laugh
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    -And we wonder why this game has gone to hell b:cute
  • Labamba - Lost City
    Labamba - Lost City Posts: 20 Arc User
    edited July 2011
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    the games dead. period. the only reason i still play it is kuz theres nothing better to do with my time, other than work atm.

    if GM's dont make some changes to fix the "economy" in pwi, this game is going to end up like so many other dead games that no one even remembers...


    QUESTION: ne one know of a game similar to pwi before GM's ****ed up the game? i'd like to switch if i can find one thats like pwi before all hell broke loose.

    ty b:kiss
    I believe PWI is saying in your terminology I see in world chat:

    Charge or GTFO

    basically thats how i see it lol gm's done give a fuuuck about ne one in game unless u can spend money. Too bad we cant start a strike where no one spends a dime on this game till they fix this ****. GREEDY *** HOLES
  • SinfuINature - Harshlands
    SinfuINature - Harshlands Posts: 533 Arc User
    edited July 2011
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    charms should be sold at the npc for 1.5 or even 2.5mil... easy easy coin sink
  • Dethprowl - Raging Tide
    Dethprowl - Raging Tide Posts: 411 Arc User
    edited July 2011
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    SinfuINature - Harshlands wrote: »
    charms should be sold at the npc for 1.5 or even 2.5mil... easy easy coin sink

    What he said. If Im really active I can burn 2 charms a week. If I go back to TW add at least one more, I always make sure I have 2 in inventory going in.

    Im not spending 12 to 24 dollars a week on something made to be burned thru. Ive even lowered my activity ingame so I dont have to spend 10 to 20 million coin each week just on charms.

    If I slow down anymore, might as well just not play.
  • X_trigger_X - Heavens Tear
    X_trigger_X - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,301 Arc User
    edited July 2011
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    It's 6m coins per plat hp last I checked on HT. I'm not TWing tonite because I'm too tight and stubborn to splash out that much for something I can go through in 1.5h of TW ... b:cry

    This is the only game I've seen so far where prices of insignificant impacting things (like charms) aren't adjusted according to economy every year or so >.<
  • Evanera - Heavens Tear
    Evanera - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,423 Arc User
    edited July 2011
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    You better TW tonight, trigger. I want to rub your chinny chin chin.
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  • Amup - Raging Tide
    Amup - Raging Tide Posts: 58 Arc User
    edited July 2011
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    Ok let's get this straight..

    I think people will see same link as me..

    High priced HP charm--- lack of barbs

    I ,myself, refuse A LOT of normal FC calls on my barb. Why ? Cause I mostly go with friends I know will know when/how to heal. I even screen out the bh69 calls I want to go help with.

    I am not filthy rich and if going to a bad FC costs me 1/6 th of a charm + crab meast and repairs, well sorry.. At 4-5 mils per charm we can round up a FC run with a "ok" healer at around 1 million total cost for a barb right now. So if someone doesnt invest much , like me, getting 3-4 calls a day for a FC and going, could end up using up to 2 charms a week (If u mix in that : bad bh69 runs with a cleric that doesn't know when to pury, or just DD's, help for various bosses/TT/fb's and such)

    Now, for a non cash shopper running a "tank type" char. 2 charms a week is just insane. Someone said paying 80$ a month on charms, I can believe that.

    Simple math though.. Of course it doesnt heal same amount and not instant, but for anything not TW related , I still prefer buying crab meats. 4.5 mils average for a charm is 450 tokens of luck or so.

    Makes a total of 1 200 crab meats healing a grand TOTAL of 3 million MORE HP then a charm..

    Yup game is broken... b:surrender
  • Heartstone - Dreamweaver
    Heartstone - Dreamweaver Posts: 1,338 Arc User
    edited July 2011
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    Yes those charm prices suck really damn hard.
    Gotta agree with you there Zero.


    It's damn hard get enough coins for charms without drop cash. I do, cos i simple do not want to farm all the time.. for the usual 2 charms a week i use.. 4 if pking.

    I understand people get frustated / quits if they'r unable or wont drop cash to this game, cos its inflated so much.. the days of grinding for 1 hour for a gold charm is over. was good time.. lol


    I like the suggestion som1 said by making an npc selling plat charms at a set price.. but hey, would mean less $ for them.. even tho it would help as whole damn lot to the inflation.


    at this rate they would have to make plats 1-2 gold.. on normal price.. for it to be anything near ok..
    I'm sorry for misspelling / mistyping and grammar b:surrender

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  • Dralighte - Harshlands
    Dralighte - Harshlands Posts: 1,540 Arc User
    edited July 2011
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    I still have the same charm since 3 weeks b:victory

    DQ points ftw? ;)
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  • LilNai - Harshlands
    LilNai - Harshlands Posts: 481 Arc User
    edited July 2011
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    Dralighte - Harshlands wrote: »
    I still have the same charm since 3 weeks b:victory

    DQ points ftw? ;)

    Your talking to someone who spends half their life in the ****ing desert grinding. DQ points are nice, but they take 4 times the effort than buying a charm the normal way should.
  • Buffy_Anne - Archosaur
    Buffy_Anne - Archosaur Posts: 4 Arc User
    edited July 2011
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    +1000

    I saw it start to happen when I was still in Radiance on HT server. Barbs deciding no tot come to TW because charms (at that time) had reached 500K which meant that if they went to three TWs, TW pay was less than charm cost. In every other case I don;t actually mind the gold in AH being so expensive, but when the cost of charms starts to exceed the coin that can be earned during the life of the charm, it's going to continue to greatly affect the game population. This game is designed so that at higher levels, charms are absolutely necessary to be able to participate in the endgame content.

    In summary:

    Paying millions for a fashion item from a catshop = fair enough, cash players deserve to get coins for supporting the game.

    Paying 5-6M for a NECESSARY tool in order to participate in endgame content = potentially a game killer.
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  • Rawynn - Archosaur
    Rawynn - Archosaur Posts: 266 Arc User
    edited July 2011
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    Arch server isnt any better seen hp/mana (plat) around 5-7m each, i believe it's been like that for about a month now
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  • Sir_Puma - Raging Tide
    Sir_Puma - Raging Tide Posts: 780 Arc User
    edited July 2011
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    Buffy_Anne - Archosaur wrote: »
    +1000

    , but when the cost of charms starts to exceed the coin that can be earned during the life of the charm, it's going to continue to greatly affect the game population.

    Exactly.. For some that don't/can't farm high level tt's/Nirvana and whatnot that pays good, 1 charm will be gone before you make 5-6 mils


    Buffy_Anne - Archosaur wrote: »

    Paying 5-6M for a NECESSARY tool in order to participate in endgame content = potentially a game killer.

    True, take a random class..Let's say BM. Unless u have very good hp shards and some kind of shielding/healing on genie, Sot will make ur charm tick, some bosses in abaddon will too. Heck even survival rooms in cube can. Probably some bosses in TT 3-3 can too. Delta ? If something goes wrong, it could tick as well. Nirvana, not sure, haven't been yet. And that doesn't even include those who either PvP, TW or just plain get attacked in cube and get charm **** for nothing
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  • Mkey - Momaganon
    Mkey - Momaganon Posts: 23 Arc User
    edited July 2011
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    its ridiculous that there are people who buy charms when you could spend half of the money you use ONLY for charms to play a p2p game that offers much better pvp
  • IrenaSteiner - Dreamweaver
    IrenaSteiner - Dreamweaver Posts: 127 Arc User
    edited July 2011
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    Dont forget that you guys control the market prices... whether youre reflecting the gold prices in AH, u all set the prices. The economy is already ruined and we all know that. DoTs used to be 1.5m, now they are 6m... gee how do you figure that... so you cant blame the GMs, its the players that have FULL control of the market and/or auction house gold.
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  • Evict - Heavens Tear
    Evict - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,301 Arc User
    edited July 2011
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    IrenaSteiner - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    Dont forget that you guys control the market prices... whether youre reflecting the gold prices in AH, u all set the prices. The economy is already ruined and we all know that. DoTs used to be 1.5m, now they are 6m... gee how do you figure that... so you cant blame the GMs, its the players that have FULL control of the market and/or auction house gold.

    And who controls the sales that cause people to spend copious amounts of money?
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  • IrenaSteiner - Dreamweaver
    IrenaSteiner - Dreamweaver Posts: 127 Arc User
    edited July 2011
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    Evict - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    And who controls the sales that cause people to spend copious amounts of money?

    Whether its the sales or not, GMs dont have control of the amount of coins players set in the AH. Gold prices in the boutique has the face value of the dollar, not in-game coins.
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  • Deant - Raging Tide
    Deant - Raging Tide Posts: 143 Arc User
    edited July 2011
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    Evict - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    And who controls the sales that cause people to spend copious amounts of money?

    Sale is there, buying is controled by you. If ppl dont buy prices will drop. So if many ppl buy prices will stay same or raise up. The economy here is controled by greed of the players. Dont blame pwi for that. U choose to charge or not to charge. Cant u ppl understnad that? many of u complain but there is a simple solution, JUST DONT CHARGE ZEN. Im sick of ppl blaming pwi that they work for money. ARENT U WORKING FOR MONEY TOO? Dont tell me that u busting ur **** off whole month, pay bills and u dont get money on the end of the month? When u shout about fixing the economy first of all learn how free marekt economy works. Controled marked economy is called COMUNISM, maybe most of the ppl dont know what is that but controled market is bound to fail. maybe u will counter me with something like "real world rules doesnt aply" but u are wrong. There are server where charms cost like 20 mil (not private servers).
  • Paramedic - Dreamweaver
    Paramedic - Dreamweaver Posts: 1,801 Arc User
    edited July 2011
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    any half-brain merchant will tell you that pw control gold price by sales. You can almost predict gold pricers if you sit long enough in this business. "People greed' is just tool here.
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  • SmifnWesson - Lost City
    SmifnWesson - Lost City Posts: 53 Arc User
    edited July 2011
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    Dethprowl - Raging Tide wrote: »
    What he said. If Im really active I can burn 2 charms a week. If I go back to TW add at least one more, I always make sure I have 2 in inventory going in.

    Im not spending 12 to 24 dollars a week on something made to be burned thru. Ive even lowered my activity ingame so I dont have to spend 10 to 20 million coin each week just on charms.

    If I slow down anymore, might as well just not play.


    Not that I dont think that 5-6m for a charm is absurd, but the fact that you can go thru 2-3m worth of charm hp in a week is just plain rediculous...what are you doing outside of TW thats eating that much damn charm, i cant remember the last time I equipped a new charm, its been a few weeks, and its about half full still, and i solo fcc on that character regularly, tank bosses and bh's for friends/faction...
  • Dralighte - Harshlands
    Dralighte - Harshlands Posts: 1,540 Arc User
    edited July 2011
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    LilNai - Harshlands wrote: »
    Your talking to someone who spends half their life in the ****ing desert grinding. DQ points are nice, but they take 4 times the effort than buying a charm the normal way should.

    or you can always do the celestial tiger event ;)
    you need luck, but it's easy to get
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  • LadyofReal - Heavens Tear
    LadyofReal - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,993 Arc User
    edited July 2011
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    Sir_Puma - Raging Tide wrote: »
    True, take a random class..Let's say BM. Unless u have very good hp shards and some kind of shielding/healing on genie, Sot will make ur charm tick, some bosses in abaddon will too. Heck even survival rooms in cube can. Probably some bosses in TT 3-3 can too. Delta ? If something goes wrong, it could tick as well. Nirvana, not sure, haven't been yet. And that doesn't even include those who either PvP, TW or just plain get attacked in cube and get charm **** for nothing

    Assuming I understood this correctly, what? I don't have any defensive skills on my genie and none of the bosses in SoT make charm tick. I might have one or two in 3-3 if the cleric sucks ***. And as far as Delta is concerned, if you, the BM, aren't getting ticks, then something is obviously wrong. You are either not doing crowd control properly, the barb is not sharing the agro, the auras are all ****ed up, or you just don't do enough damage in comparison to the other DDs in the squad. PK and TW are charm ****, I will agree to that much; but for a well skilled BM, PvE should be no issue at all.
    Deant - Raging Tide wrote: »
    Sale is there, buying is controled by you. If ppl dont buy prices will drop. So if many ppl buy prices will stay same or raise up. The economy here is controled by greed of the players. Dont blame pwi for that. U choose to charge or not to charge. Cant u ppl understnad that? many of u complain but there is a simple solution, JUST DONT CHARGE ZEN. Im sick of ppl blaming pwi that they work for money. ARENT U WORKING FOR MONEY TOO? Dont tell me that u busting ur **** off whole month, pay bills and u dont get money on the end of the month? When u shout about fixing the economy first of all learn how free marekt economy works. Controled marked economy is called COMUNISM, maybe most of the ppl dont know what is that but controled market is bound to fail. maybe u will counter me with something like "real world rules doesnt aply" but u are wrong. There are server where charms cost like 20 mil (not private servers).

    I don't think that everyone is asking that the GMs step in and control the market, I believe that they are asking for a little bit of help. Think of it as a bail out plan for an economy in a really tight spot.

    A cap on gold prices would help a bit, but I don't foresee that happening any time soon.

    I would love to be able to go to a NPC to purchase a charm. Not only would it be a hell of a lot cheaper, but it would be another coin sink to help keep coin in the market circulating. We all know that if the price is too high that no one will buy it unless they're stupid, which means that coin is just sitting there stagnant.

    But I will agree that 6mil for a charm is just outrageous, I don't have that kind of time during the week to farm for a charm.
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  • Dethprowl - Raging Tide
    Dethprowl - Raging Tide Posts: 411 Arc User
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    SmifnWesson - Lost City wrote: »
    Not that I dont think that 5-6m for a charm is absurd, but the fact that you can go thru 2-3m worth of charm hp in a week is just plain rediculous...what are you doing outside of TW thats eating that much damn charm, i cant remember the last time I equipped a new charm, its been a few weeks, and its about half full still, and i solo fcc on that character regularly, tank bosses and bh's for friends/faction...

    When is the last time you were puller on several Deltas a week? Face it Fc bosses are a vacation, they do next to no damage unless you **** up and the Shades are a laff. BH bosses arent much of a challenge even with a fail squad. Now TT 3-3, there's some real damage and Im in there alot because we have lots of faction needing those mats.

    Im not even doing TW now because the faction is building up to it, but with the Deltas, TTs, and tons of personal grinding I do it's easy to burn thru charm.

    Im a barb, I dont have the luxury of disappearing and avoiding all the beatings between me and the objective also.
  • LilNai - Harshlands
    LilNai - Harshlands Posts: 481 Arc User
    edited July 2011
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    Dralighte - Harshlands wrote: »
    or you can always do the celestial tiger event ;)
    you need luck, but it's easy to get

    Speak to me when everyone AoEs with their whitename safeties on, til then, not a chance b:cute

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