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Juliaasmith - Dreamweaver
Juliaasmith - Dreamweaver Posts: 222 Arc User
edited July 2011 in General Discussion
Hey! I would like to hear what people think and I would like to see the game go back to the way it used to be.

I'm sorry but, there should be a rule against selling FC heads to people under level 75. It's just not fair to the people who spent so much time and effort leveling to levels lower than 100. I'm not trying to hate on anybody. But I have been on here almost 1 year and I started out as a new player and now I am a level 93. I take my time to level so that I can obtain the proper gear and weapons for my char and also to catch up my pets. Now, I am seeing level 95-100 with gear they got at level 20 because they leveled so fast that they weren't prepaired to be able to afford the rep and rank gear they should have at level 90-100! Or, lets say, I worked almost 1 year to get to level 93 and have good gear and a cool weapon, and then I see someone who has been on here for not even a week started out at level 1 and a week later is a level 100 with R9 gear (better than what I have worked so hard for)!! Isn't that defeating the purpose of the game? Do something or this game sadly will dye out.

It's pure greed! Level 20-40s shouldn't even be able to afford to buy FC heads at 400-500k a round. I see people selling them all the time to low levels that should be doing quests to level. 80-90 deserve to do heads because they are at the level they should be to do them, and it's harder to level once you get to that stage of the game. LV 75 is an acception. That's when you're supposed to start frosting. So ppl shouldn't sell heads to players under lv. 75! Please set some ground rules GMs, and fix your packs!! The in game economy is unbearable! b:sad
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  • LilNai - Harshlands
    LilNai - Harshlands Posts: 481 Arc User
    edited July 2011
    inb4shelly

    Sorry but as much as the thread has a point, she dont know how to mod b:surrender
  • Zenorx - Harshlands
    Zenorx - Harshlands Posts: 443 Arc User
    edited July 2011
    I dont see any problem with it, if they want to level fast then fine, whats the big deal? It's not like leveling fast in this game makes you OP, thats the CSing, effectively all leveling fast does is mean you can equip better gear and have a bigger number at the top of your screen than you would otherwise.

    Go search Rawargh's thread about pleveling, it has some good points
  • Sharuum - Lost City
    Sharuum - Lost City Posts: 138 Arc User
    edited July 2011
    If low level/noobie players are spending so much real life money ( ~50 cents per full big room) without PWI having to earn their loyalty, there is zero chance that it will be changed. That does not mean that it shouldn't. I would propose a compromise:

    Allow people to frost hyper level as much as they want and at any level. The problem arises when a later squad's cleric comes in with lv 20 npc gear or a barb that can't tank. They need a new way for people to learn to play their classes. They should put level caps every fb level and make you do some solo quests and some with a group of people that all need the level cap raise. That way you are forced at least a little bit to learn to play and have decent gear. Heck, now that BH's are out we don't really need to have high levels helping with them.

    I leveled multiple characters the old school way (not even zhen groups) and it was tough. I don't think that I would have come back to play a psychic after quitting had it not been for the simplified leveling system. The original was just too brutal.
  • RainbowVidel - Sanctuary
    RainbowVidel - Sanctuary Posts: 1,316 Arc User
    edited July 2011
    Juliaasmith, remaking threads that were locked is against forum rules. We saw what you had to say the first time.
  • OiOOio - Raging Tide
    OiOOio - Raging Tide Posts: 180 Arc User
    edited July 2011
    It would make it easier for the players who do not Plvl since we would have many same lvl or +1 or 2 lvls more than ur lvl to do BH's FB's to earn better drops.

    Also you would not have to worry about waiting so long to get a squad only to realize they fail at their intended type of support.
  • Jay_Dubbz - Lost City
    Jay_Dubbz - Lost City Posts: 385 Arc User
    edited July 2011
    Does it really even matter if they sell heads to lower levels. Even without buying then theyll just pay a higher level to run them through frost lol. People just need to face it, hypers allow people to level fast now, and the game sucks now also
  • ResMePls - Heavens Tear
    ResMePls - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,349 Arc User
    edited July 2011
    Hey! I would like to hear what people think and I would like to see the game go back to the way it used to be.

    I'm sorry but, there should be a rule against selling FC heads to people under level 75. It's just not fair to the people who spent so much time and effort leveling to levels lower than 100. I'm not trying to hate on anybody. But I have been on here almost 1 year and I started out as a new player and now I am a level 93. I take my time to level so that I can obtain the proper gear and weapons for my char and also to catch up my pets. Now, I am seeing level 95-100 with gear they got at level 20 because they leveled so fast that they weren't prepaired to be able to afford the rep and rank gear they should have at level 90-100! Or, lets say, I worked almost 1 year to get to level 93 and have good gear and a cool weapon, and then I see someone who has been on here for not even a week started out at level 1 and a week later is a level 100 with R9 gear (better than what I have worked so hard for)!! Isn't that defeating the purpose of the game? Do something or this game sadly will dye out.

    It's pure greed! Level 20-40s shouldn't even be able to afford to buy FC heads at 400-500k a round. I see people selling them all the time to low levels that should be doing quests to level. 80-90 deserve to do heads because they are at the level they should be to do them, and it's harder to level once you get to that stage of the game. LV 75 is an acception. That's when you're supposed to start frosting. So ppl shouldn't sell heads to players under lv. 75! Please set some ground rules GMs, and fix your packs!! The in game economy is unbearable! b:sad

    All I have to say is that part is completely ****. Your telling me you can afford to Plevel to 95 and not be able to buy 9x gear??? I am not seeing the connection thereb:bye.

    As far as the rest of you post goes, all I see is basically you annoyed that you had to play x amount of hours to get your gear and level and others just paid their way to get to your level and then pass you in gear. All I have to say is QQ more and ignore the Plevelers
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  • Aubree - Dreamweaver
    Aubree - Dreamweaver Posts: 1,868 Arc User
    edited July 2011
    To the OP, just get over it and play how you want to play. People had the same arguments for Oracles. Nothing is going to change, except something may be released by cash shop to lvl you even faster, such as exp orbs for sale in boutique.
  • Selenica - Sanctuary
    Selenica - Sanctuary Posts: 29 Arc User
    edited July 2011
    Hyper grinding > FCC heads.. sure the later is faster, but the former is more educational..
    Breeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee^^
  • Juliaasmith - Dreamweaver
    Juliaasmith - Dreamweaver Posts: 222 Arc User
    edited July 2011
    Juliaasmith, remaking threads that were locked is against forum rules. We saw what you had to say the first time.

    I didn't "re mark" it sweety!! LEARN TO READ!!! It's a compleatly different thread!! SUE ME!!!

    I AM ALLOWED TO SPEAK MY OPINION SEEN AS HOW I JUST SPENT 20 DOLLARS ON YOUR CARDS!!!

    LETS TAKE IT TO COURT IF YOU HAVE A PROBLEM LIL GIRL!!

    Besides, I don't see GM beside your name! If you are a GM lets roll!!
  • Mirtilla - Sanctuary
    Mirtilla - Sanctuary Posts: 57 Arc User
    edited July 2011
    The point is,that there will be always social differences,mostly based on money.

    There are the rich and there are the poor.Just like real life.

    Rich can get stuff 100 times faster than a poor or average.There are things that a rich one can get that a poor one can't even dream of.
    The actual game mechanics(And boutique stuff),allows the"Rich",to gain such an huge advantage over the poor/average players.Just like real economy which allows people to waste 10 thousand dollars on a dress while others don't even have the money to feed their children -- Its all about who got the money(Or who can get it),and who not.

    Im just saying,world is,and probably will,be always like this.

    (There are ways for the poor to get money but usually:
    - The poor doesn't have enough time
    - The poor is stupid
    - The poor doesn't known a thing about farming money
    - The poor have no willing whatsoever to put some serious effort into money-making activity and instead pass all day QQing about the riches and how he's poor etc etc.)
    Im a Seeker but I have no clue what Im seeking.
  • MoonUsagi - Heavens Tear
    MoonUsagi - Heavens Tear Posts: 4,377 Arc User
    edited July 2011

    (There are ways for the poor to get money but usually:
    - The poor doesn't have enough time
    - The poor is stupid
    - The poor doesn't known a thing about farming money
    - The poor have no willing whatsoever to put some serious effort into money-making activity and instead pass all day QQing about the riches and how he's poor etc etc.)

    + 1 b:chuckle
    - Too much pride, that it hurt them self.
    - Can't adapt to world changes.
    - Too nice as a person and ended up not rich. (actually it's not bad at all)
    - Too much theory crafting.
    - Must.. follow... the trend... even... if... i... haven't... eat... for... a... week...
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  • Atonia - Dreamweaver
    Atonia - Dreamweaver Posts: 10 Arc User
    edited July 2011
    I think that this topic will always be a cause for debate, at least in some sense of the word since everyone has different opinions. Unfortunately not everyone shares the same opinions and nine times out of ten I think most opinions are ignored or written off as not valid. In this case part of me kind of agrees that it is ridiculous how quickly someone can Plvl a character from lvl1 to lvl90+ just by using FC. I'm the type of person who believes that you shouldn't really hyper a character until you know how to play that particular class, otherwise all you have is a high lvl character and no skill whatsoever on how to play it. In the end it's just kind of a worthless character that is nothing more than a trophy to show off. But, at the same time I do approve of some use of FC at low levels. I didn't put my main into FC until she was lvl75. I did quests and whatnot to level her. I've done the same thing with all of my alts. Although, once they get to lvl40 or lvl50+ I have to admit, it's kind of nice to have the option to take them into an Alt FC here and there just to speed up the process. When you have 5+ alts doing the same quest lines over and over again can get a little annoying, or at least tiring. At any rate I suppose I am on the fence somewhere between all of this. Yes, it annoys me that nooblets get to Plvl like crazy using FC... but then I guess it doesn't really matter anyway. Let them do as they please, just don't have anything to do with them. Maybe one day we won't be overrun by people who don't know how to properly play their class. Maybe.
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  • Sir_Puma - Raging Tide
    Sir_Puma - Raging Tide Posts: 780 Arc User
    edited July 2011
    This thread is something totally new !!

    Well, not really.. I think it has been turned upside down more then enough..

    It simply resumes to this :

    - Some people have cash, can do what they want with, either have time or not to invest TIME in game so they invest CASH.

    - Some people can barely keep their internets up, don't work and have all the time of their lifes to level a char.

    -Some people are in the middle. They "could" invest but just don't want to.

    Money is power everywhere and it's the same in game.

    Take as exemple a real life situation. If u plan to go to eat diner somewhere and then go to theater, do you expect ur neighbor that is poor as hell to come sue you cause he's watching the same movie he bought in special for the 20th time ?
    Proud supporter of the new expansion. Sure it has it's share of bugs, like any games. But for a pure farmer/grinder, that's a whole lot of new mobs to go beat up b:chuckle
  • MoonUsagi - Heavens Tear
    MoonUsagi - Heavens Tear Posts: 4,377 Arc User
    edited July 2011
    Since games this day now flooded (and designed for) with casual player (unlike nerd before) there a lot more people that won't learn things and just want fast shortcut and doesn't care about lore / story / rp at all. b:shutup

    So they can screenshot their achievement, put on signature, put on facebook, put on yahoo, put on twitter, put on times, put on their room as poster / photo, write on diary.

    I say it's times for directly competitive games without sort thing such as long quest / grind / open world / hundreds to thousand items. Where people just beat each other up whenever they want, without have to be back stabbed, item dependent, rich, harsh penalty, but still requires skill just like on moba games that booming this day.

    On games like that even a carebear / poor people would gladly fight other people, since it's fair.
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  • StormHydra - Sanctuary
    StormHydra - Sanctuary Posts: 2,221 Arc User
    edited July 2011
    If low level/noobie players are spending so much real life money ( ~50 cents per full big room) without PWI having to earn their loyalty, there is zero chance that it will be changed. That does not mean that it shouldn't. I would propose a compromise:

    Allow people to frost hyper level as much as they want and at any level. The problem arises when a later squad's cleric comes in with lv 20 npc gear or a barb that can't tank. They need a new way for people to learn to play their classes. They should put level caps every fb level and make you do some solo quests and some with a group of people that all need the level cap raise. That way you are forced at least a little bit to learn to play and have decent gear. Heck, now that BH's are out we don't really need to have high levels helping with them.

    I leveled multiple characters the old school way (not even zhen groups) and it was tough. I don't think that I would have come back to play a psychic after quitting had it not been for the simplified leveling system. The original was just too brutal.

    Dont think i'd ever say this
    but
    lrn2play.
    Brutal? Really? How many games have you played man?
    Since games this day now flooded (and designed for) with casual player (unlike nerd before) there a lot more people that won't learn things and just want fast shortcut and doesn't care about lore / story / rp at all. b:shutup

    So they can screenshot their achievement, put on signature, put on facebook, put on yahoo, put on twitter, put on times, put on their room as poster / photo, write on diary.
    .

    Omg this x1000. One of the best posts i've seen on this forum.

    Hyper EXP was made with this logic "We want players who play less (only a few hours per day) to keep up with the people who play long hours every day". That makes no sense, because the "people who play long hours" get access to it, too.
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  • StormChimera - Lost City
    StormChimera - Lost City Posts: 172 Arc User
    edited July 2011
    I didn't "re mark" it sweety!! LEARN TO READ!!! It's a compleatly different thread!! SUE ME!!!

    I AM ALLOWED TO SPEAK MY OPINION SEEN AS HOW I JUST SPENT 20 DOLLARS ON YOUR CARDS!!!

    LETS TAKE IT TO COURT IF YOU HAVE A PROBLEM LIL GIRL!!

    Besides, I don't see GM beside your name! If you are a GM lets roll!!

    LOL LOL LOL rage more OP.

    all i got from this thread is QQ i spent a year on this game and people are out leveling me. Get over it, some people don't enjoy spending years to advance in a game. and lol lol lol at you raging about spending $20 on game cards. well that makes you such a big spender OP i guess pwi should bow down to your every whim b:shutup
  • Zenorx - Harshlands
    Zenorx - Harshlands Posts: 443 Arc User
    edited July 2011
    I AM ALLOWED TO SPEAK MY OPINION SEEN AS HOW I JUST SPENT 20 DOLLARS ON YOUR CARDS!!!

    Sure you are.... Thing is, no one gives a ****.

    It's a freaking computer game ffs. Don't like it? Delete the game and go find a new one or make a pserver where you can dictate exactly what goes on or something.

    b:bye
  • Rawrgh - Raging Tide
    Rawrgh - Raging Tide Posts: 6,790 Arc User
    edited July 2011
    Should remove rep badges from the boutique and only sell medals and chips. Because it's unfair to the people who got R8 with tokens.

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  • Tsukyini - Raging Tide
    Tsukyini - Raging Tide Posts: 1,766 Arc User
    edited July 2011
    Now, I am seeing level 95-100 with gear they got at level 20 because they leveled so fast that they weren't prepaired to be able to afford the rep and rank gear they should have at level 90-100!

    I've pointed this out in another thread but I'll say it again: There is a difference between being power leveled and being gimp. Anyone at level 95-100 with level 20 gear is gimp, regardless of their leveling method.
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