Help out a new clerics

Honestly, they arent as expensive as some classes. Once you hit 75 and can use herbs, its really honestly pretty cheap to be a cleric. When my cleric was active, I would spend maybe 1 mil for tokens to turn into pots, and that mil lasted me for a long time. And if a cleric is playing right, they should have almost no repair cost, so that saves major money.

Now compare that to my Seeker. That same amount of mp pots is gone in days because of my vortex. Not to mention the repair costs are insane. I had an old fashioned zhen party the other day where I burned through an entire mp charm in less than an hour, plus came out with a 380k repair bill. The cleric used maybe 50 pots, which is 30k. Considerably cheaper.

i don't find cleric particularly expensive or difficult to play. i use mp charms by choice since it's easier for me and make sure to get them on sale. as for finding clerics for bh69 and other instances - my experience is that the barb is the hard one to find - likely because of the massive repair cost and the need for a trusted cleric in 69 - one who knows how to purify and group heal at the same time. and with archers, sins, and wizzies who constantly steal aggro because they haven't learned how to let the tanks do the tanking (flesh ream and road (??) can only do so much), any smart cleric and barb is wary of a random squad.

i've had some major awesome random squads, myself, but also quite a few fail ones. and as the cleric, i'm the one who loses all the exp when we die -- y'all at least got a maxed rez to look forward to.

TheEaglez - Heavens Tear wrote: »

what im trying to say here is that normal people dont have reail life money to pay to play this game mostly = pay to play orells it will take you years to get to a person who puts money into game -_- i now hundreds of people who quite bcause it just so expensiv to play eneymore and pwi never fix eneythin or make it easyer. there will be a small amount of people who will put up with pwi xD and eneyway its pointless to say this because all the people in forum will jsut arguw back to this.

so you went from "clerics are too hard and expensive" to "QQ i don't want to spend real money"

my girlfriend is a cleric and doesn't do random squads because she doesn't want to rely on people she don't know personally. But its fine for me, her cleric and my seeker end up Duoing almost everything that's needed for me

Post in World Chat the followings:
"LF Cleric for bh 69, paying 100k"

I ensure you will get a cleric real fast.

And... I dont think clerics should pay wine fee. Clerics are so cool to pay wine fee.

SkogDyr - Lost City wrote: »

Speaking as a cleric who has been here for many moons...

Wraithgate can be rough if the barb, cleric and DD's aren't on the same page. Barb needs to have a trusted cleric to purify and IH, DD's need the cleric to aoe heal and throw a WoP on the lure, and the cleric needs a tank who will grab agro quick and DDs who will protect the cleric. This might sound simple but more and more toons are trying to out-do each other in squad. "Look what I can do" is FAIL while in Wraithgate.

I'd rather do a 79, SoT, NV than 69. I have a list of Barbs I trust and will only BH with them (or a few select DDs).

I would suggest asking a guild member (there are some helpful and friendly guilds still out there on the servers) for a run.

Just so you know... quickest way to lose a cleric is for a DD to spam chat for heals while tank is getting slammed. Tank tanks, cleric heals tank first - cleric 2nd and squad 3rd, DDs lure, protect cleric then themselves.

TY Skog! These are such important items I figured I'd highlight your quote. Seriously, where did the DD's who know how to tone down the damage go? As I recall back in the day, the wiz or archer who stole aggro had best have a charm or some good gear while they dealt with a lil boss-luvin. b:dirty They blamed no-one but themselves if they died, and they generally took it in good spirits.
Nowadays when playing my cleric, I get the rudest aggro-hungry squishy/fail DD'ers who scream at me to rez cuz "they need this boss!" LOL...WTF? You shoulda maybe thought of that b4 triple spark Frenzying on Stygean while wearing 2 socket TT80 LA gear.



Don't even start me on the *tank* who runs into multiple mobs and proceeds to whip the tar out of ONE of them and thinks I'm gonna heal them......b:bye

Kaligrrl - Heavens Tear wrote: »

TY Skog! These are such important items I figured I'd highlight your quote. Seriously, where did the DD's who know how to tone down the damage go? As I recall back in the day, the wiz or archer who stole aggro had best have a charm or some good gear while they dealt with a lil boss-luvin. b:dirty They blamed no-one but themselves if they died, and they generally took it in good spirits.
Nowadays when playing my cleric, I get the rudest aggro-hungry squishy/fail DD'ers who scream at me to rez cuz "they need this boss!" LOL...WTF? You shoulda maybe thought of that b4 triple spark Frenzying on Stygean while wearing 2 socket TT80 LA gear.



Don't even start me on the *tank* who runs into multiple mobs and proceeds to whip the tar out of ONE of them and thinks I'm gonna heal them......b:bye

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LOL you and I are thinking alike Kaligrrl! Those days were great. Don't get me wrong, I don't mind the new races (I luv me mystic!) but back then, people knew how to play their toon. Now I'm seeing non-aps barbs staying in human form to tackle a boss, archers who think they can throw everything at a mob and not call all their friends, a mage who afks while doing their circle jerk of death and others who have no reason to Leroy Jenkins into a group of magic mobs and complain that they died. b:chuckle

On my cleric, I had every skill lvl'ed to 10 by lvl 70, my 79skills at 85 and full sage skills around 100. Now you find powerleveled healers at lvl 90 with lvl 5 skills. If you are on a pvp server, you will die many times with low skills... on a pve server, a cleric with lvl 5 rez, lvl 7 IH and a lvl 3 Purify is about a useless as **** on a bull!b:angry

SkogDyr - Lost City wrote: »

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On my cleric, I had every skill lvl'ed to 10 by lvl 70,

Lies you have skill that level untill lv 86, or u forgot to put most skills in there...

Ive actually recently started back on this char (because my veno is so much easier) to take advanage of all the offers of 'FC heads - free for cleric....". I will happily do 69/79 if the offer is on, but as said previously we then usually wait around for a tank anyway.

My cleric is cheap to play, herb yuanxiao is the only place I spend money. Compare that to every other class and we are likely the CHEAPEST class to play (besides veno)

As per many of the issues mentioned I dont do random FC's on this char (I do on my veno, its a survivor) because the death rate is too high and Ive learnt that you cant stop idiots killing themselves in any instance, so I dont try to stop them.

When you start a BH69 squad from now on, advertise for tank and cleric first. when you have those - then fill the other spots.

The amount of money required to make a non cleric class capable of surviving with hp pots would in fact make an actual cleric the last person to die in a squad. I will finally concede after 4 years of defending them that clerics are not the best DD in the game.

I will instead reinforce the saying that they are the best at staying alive, therefor the best at sticking around long enough to KEEP DDing until said mob or boss is dead. (Making them the king or queen of pve and 2nd after sins in pvp)

Aside from the amount of money required to gear up a cleric to the point where they don't need to rely on others to stay alive or even kill off multiple mobs at once, clerics are fairly cheep to play both mana wise and repair cost wise.

Those who are willing to take a cleric past the point of pure support and go into the world of Independent DDer/Tanker/Puller<-lol/Dancer/ and over all Soloer, would find the class to be the most enjoyable. (Who cares how long it takes to kill a boss as a cleric, the important thing is we have the power to do so and thus have the power to have fun on our own.)

P.S. Since i will not be reading this further i will counter future arguments now.
(The ability to tank is based on how much hp and defense you have not what class you play)
(The speed in which you kill is based on how much magic attack you have not what class you play)
(If we have the power to kill several mobs without dying then prey tell WHY do we only need to heal?)
(If we have the exact same gear as you but with the ability to heal then how are we weaker?)
(The best DD class can't always stay alive if they take aggro, so is there shame in killing slowly?)

(Clerics actually do have more pressure to level certain skills such as res and heals cause YOU are selfish enough to kick us out of squads if we don't have them.)

(Clerics have aoes too, unless your looking for a consent aoer like a wizard or archer, do not complain)
(Yes i may be obsessed with the cleric class but i'm given no reason not to be.)
(Through recent experience i have learned that a R9+12 geared cleric CAN SOLO harpy wraith)

(Tells me if i want to DD i should pick another class again and i will show you what it feels like to be hit by lightning!)

(Peanut butter is indeed better with jelly)

WTF is with these forums and clerics QQing about fail squads?

MageMERC - Harshlands wrote: »

Futurelord, can you make a guide regarding end game dd clerics......I would love to know some of the tricks......

Not much of a guide needed really, the only key to being a DD cleric is to focus all your gear and stats into magic attack for the highest possible damage, that in itself makes you the perfect healer also because magic attack increase healing power.

Now assuming your looking to be able to tank and or solo things you first need to think about what your going for in the long run. My own personal endgame goal is harpy wraith on a cleric. That in and of itself means i need the best gear possible.

http://pwcalc.com/1d3985f8596896bf
There you have my basic stats after spending 20 arms and legs getting it. Without buffs.

http://pwcalc.com/529a424f2b84bc60
There you have it with buffs.

Now with that gear you can settle for +10 refines which is alot cheaper to get but its that +11 and +12 that gives the stats the extra kick.

Please note that if you want to solo things as a cleric you cant take into account how fast you will kill. Since half of the time you will be healing yourself, or atleast you will if your fighting harpy lol. If you can afford this gear at all then you shouldnt have any trouble with any classes ever. Even sins would run away from the combination of your phy resist+hp. (That will be continuously healed for 15 seconds hehe)

The same results can be gained from full nirvana gear or R8 gear but will require more skills from the cleric in terms of using the right skills at the right time, to make up for the lack of certain defenses.

P.S. lol to forgetting to add a jones blessing on there. Remember kids, the only difference between a R9 cleric and a R9 everything else is that we have the best healing power!

P.P.S Here we have the stats from other class buffs. Take note of the wonderful 20k hp and the 12k physical resist.
http://pwcalc.com/178110f5b17f03a5

Its not hard to find Clerics because the class is costly or tricky to play. Its hard to find Clerics because 70% of all new chars are Assassins and the other 30% are Earthguards, BMs and a few Psychics. Making Clerics even easier to play wont make them more popular. They still cant reach 5.0 or solo FCC lol.

Once you're 75+ you can use Herb Yuanxiao for mp. Cost for healing entire FB69 shouldn't be more than 5-15k. That is not expensive.

Wraithgate is only hard to heal if the tank is a complete idiot and everyone keeps stealing aggro at Pole/Nob, but than you should just leave squad b:sweat

Chickpea - Lost City wrote: »

or solo FCC lol.

I don't know about you, but I can solo frost quite easily.