Removing Fairy boxes from TT?

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  • Mumintroll - Heavens Tear
    Mumintroll - Heavens Tear Posts: 3,393 Arc User
    edited July 2011
    Removing chests from solo mode is ANOTHER big fail of this game. Why they put it in, when they gonna remove it after month? They want to kill all ways to make money for non CS shoppers.b:angry
    But they are unable fix FC glitch. FAIL
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  • MagicSars - Dreamweaver
    MagicSars - Dreamweaver Posts: 6 Arc User
    edited July 2011
    If they are only removing it from solo mode TTs I do not see why this is a huge problem. Solo TT runs require virtually no time and very little repair cost. Sure, it helps non-cash shoppers, but think how much APS people are exploiting this. By taking it out of solo mode TTs it will actually help our economy by reducing this massive amount of coin being poured into the system. I am not an expert on economics but fairy boxes might have something to do with gold being so high these days.

    And sure people can use them for refines but truthfully I see people NPCing them for coin moreso than refining gear....
  • Mumintroll - Heavens Tear
    Mumintroll - Heavens Tear Posts: 3,393 Arc User
    edited July 2011
    MagicSars - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    If they are only removing it from solo mode TTs I do not see why this is a huge problem. Solo TT runs require virtually no time and very little repair cost. Sure, it helps non-cash shoppers, but think how much APS people are exploiting this. By taking it out of solo mode TTs it will actually help our economy by reducing this massive amount of coin being poured into the system. I am not an expert on economics but fairy boxes might have something to do with gold being so high these days.

    And sure people can use them for refines but truthfully I see people NPCing them for coin moreso than refining gear....
    Me as a mage has still big problem and it's challenging to do TT solo. Why they don't fix APS problem instead removing boxes? I know why. Because this is much easier "solution" for them. Fixing APS problem require lot of work, which they are unwilling to do.
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  • lyonitus
    lyonitus Posts: 108 Arc User
    edited July 2011
    MagicSars - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    If they are only removing it from solo mode TTs I do not see why this is a huge problem. Solo TT runs require virtually no time and very little repair cost. Sure, it helps non-cash shoppers, but think how much APS people are exploiting this. By taking it out of solo mode TTs it will actually help our economy by reducing this massive amount of coin being poured into the system. I am not an expert on economics but fairy boxes might have something to do with gold being so high these days.

    And sure people can use them for refines but truthfully I see people NPCing them for coin moreso than refining gear....

    APS players arent wasteing time with solo mode they are soloing squad mode.
  • Purple_fury - Sanctuary
    Purple_fury - Sanctuary Posts: 225 Arc User
    edited July 2011
    MagicSars - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    By taking it out of solo mode TTs it will actually help our economy by reducing this massive amount of coin being poured into the system. I am not an expert on economics but fairy boxes might have something to do with gold being so high these days.

    im not sure if your joking with this or not b:surrender if you wanted to stop the massive flood of coins coming into the economy then they should get rid of big bank notes which is a major reason for gold price rise..

    well i hope they dont remove them since im not one of those heavy cash shoppers with high APS that can solo anything they want i need those mirages for refines as well as to sell for mats for my tt99 mats b:angry and no i dont npc them i actually sell em to other people
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  • __Astarte__ - Dreamweaver
    __Astarte__ - Dreamweaver Posts: 151 Arc User
    edited July 2011
    lyonitus wrote: »
    APS players arent wasteing time with solo mode they are soloing squad mode.

    This.

    And they can still bring in alts to pick up boxes if they want. -_-

    Figures. Something done right for a change and they need to 'fix' it. >.>
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  • LilNai - Harshlands
    LilNai - Harshlands Posts: 481 Arc User
    edited July 2011
    Evict - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    Coin drops. b:chuckle



    Patience is a virtue. If you were so desperate to make coin, you'd endure the 20 minutes, form a squad and ask if they wanted to multi. You might even have a good time and make some friends. Oh, what's that? A perma-squad just formed.

    Also, quit acting like TT is the only way to make money. I know people who run FB instances daily for mold/rare/book drops. Read one of WarrenWolfy's coin-making tips threads. You could be generating income on an alt account without even being tabbed into it.

    Im not acting like TT is the only way to get money. But its definitely currently the easiest way to refine gear at the moment. 36 mirages a day got all my gear to +3 over the course of the last 2 weeks, and I +7d my daggers too(This alt did the Goshiki quests and I acc stashed the Tishas/Tienkangs :D). If I can keep farming those mirages, il be able to try and +4/5 piece by piece b:victory

    And when im not refining, its good money and good for everyone else too. Mirages were selling for upto and including 17500 a pop on HL prior to the Fairy Boxes (After the TW payout reverted they rose to this) and now even people who dont farm fairy boxes benefit from mirages at 10500 - 11500 (Catshopping to buy) a pop. In the long run its reducing refine costs by a third for low-end refines (to+5) unless I really suck at maths.

    As for friends? Got plenty, but noone wants me in their squads on the characters I enjoy playing (Sin / Wiz / Veno (The latter 2 are 8x and inactive due to the lack of use, despite how much I enjoy them lol.) just my sodding cleric, and for random squads, the day I find one that multiruns without a load of pissing around banking and everyone feeling cheated, is the day perfect world becomes the no.1 MMO in the world.

    ~I know thisl attract flame, but also im on a PvP server. A somewhat large amount of the server is unhelpful *******s :p (With a few good peeps her and there ofc b:victory)
  • Purple_fury - Sanctuary
    Purple_fury - Sanctuary Posts: 225 Arc User
    edited July 2011
    __Astarte__ - Dreamweaver wrote: »

    Figures. Something done right for a change and they need to 'fix' it. >.>

    you know PWI's motto dont you? "if it isnt broke fix it till it breaks" b:chuckle
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  • __Astarte__ - Dreamweaver
    __Astarte__ - Dreamweaver Posts: 151 Arc User
    edited July 2011
    Purple_fury - Sanctuary wrote: »
    you know PWI's motto dont you? "if it isnt broke fix it till it breaks" b:chuckle

    I should by now. And the logical part of my brain always does. But it still hurts every time. b:cry
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  • whiplashsmile
    whiplashsmile Posts: 2 Arc User
    edited July 2011
    as i dont have lots of time to game, fairy boxes in solo was a real bonus, allowed me to refine and basically afford to finance my cleric and barb again, I think I am now tired of the constant changes.........see ya pw b:laugh
  • Equin - Dreamweaver
    Equin - Dreamweaver Posts: 260 Arc User
    edited July 2011
    oh great now there goes my extra easy 360k a day -_-
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  • Evict - Heavens Tear
    Evict - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,301 Arc User
    edited July 2011
    LilNai - Harshlands wrote: »
    Im not acting like TT is the only way to get money. But its definitely currently the easiest way to refine gear at the moment. 36 mirages a day got all my gear to +3 over the course of the last 2 weeks, and I +7d my daggers too(This alt did the Goshiki quests and I acc stashed the Tishas/Tienkangs :D). If I can keep farming those mirages, il be able to try and +4/5 piece by piece b:victory
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    LilNai - Harshlands wrote: »
    36 mirages a day got all my gear to +3 over the course of the last 2 weeks, and I +7d my daggers too(This alt did the Goshiki quests and I acc stashed the Tishas/Tienkangs :D)
    LilNai - Harshlands wrote: »
    and I +7d my daggers too
    LilNai - Harshlands wrote: »
    +7d my daggers

    Pocket clerics aren't hard to find. Go duo multi 2-3s and quit complaining.
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  • Vancore - Sanctuary
    Vancore - Sanctuary Posts: 262 Arc User
    edited July 2011
    TreeHugs - Harshlands wrote: »
    i dont mind them taking out the boxes in 1-1, 2-1 and in solo mode. i always do team mode, and the most common team mode i do is 3-1. maybe it will take longer than 1-1, but its still more profitable with the green drops included.

    reason why theyre taking them out is because people have alts that are 70+, people bring them in the easy TTs, farm fairy boxes like mad, and can open them up on these characters. theyre making it more challenging for those who are making a TOO easy buck.

    and i dont blame them for wanting to change it either.

    also, this is a chinese server update, we might not get this until much later ... whos to say even if we will.

    you do realize that you can only open 6 a day per account not toon account so to farm the boxes like mad they would have to 3-4 clients running at once to really abuse it which is bannable anyway and as for many of us caster classes when ever we're broke and/or low on mirages the only real way to get mirages for refines, bh, TM etc is to do enough solo TTs to get boxes and most casters do the solo 1-x and 2-x because you dont need to be a HA class or even be charmed to have any shot of finishing them in a reasonable time frame

    so yeah **** if you dont realize what taking out the boxes really means
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  • LilNai - Harshlands
    LilNai - Harshlands Posts: 481 Arc User
    edited July 2011
    Evict - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    Pocket clerics aren't hard to find. Go duo multi 2-3s and quit complaining.

    4909HP says **** off? Just because I have a decent weapon and know how to play doesnt mean I can tank that ****. Gimme another 6 months of Fairy box refining and helping my friends get to the gear level where we can work together for cash, then we shall talk. b:bye

    You seem so obstinate that this wont hurt anyone. It might not hurt most people to see them removed, but its benefitted everyone and people would lose that benefit.

    Additional bonus, this is also how I get rid of the hoards of useless Sacks of Observation from BH100. Much more effective than flogging them for 35k each to a catshop.
  • AlysonRose - Heavens Tear
    AlysonRose - Heavens Tear Posts: 624 Arc User
    edited July 2011
    Equin - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    oh great now there goes my extra easy 360k a day -_-


    ^This

    I only so tt when I have absolutely nothing else to do, and don't want to just go and do something else than pwi.

    Even so its nice to go solo any of the solo modes for ~ 2 boxes a run. Gives me something to do with those subs from my bh other than sell them for less and less profit. This means that mirages will probably shoot back up to 20k from the 11k they have been for a long time now.

    I don't even like squad mode in tt. Takes forever to find one that won't **** you over, takes longer than I want to run, and I don't even want the drops anyways. I go for the boxes, because unlike the mats I can actually offload the things without either taking a huuuuuge hit in what its worth or putting it up against the plethora of cheap tt **** in ah.

    During 2x it was nice to get the boxes and Forshura's Arms which are about the only mats that still sell well. Everyone else was doing nirvana, I was using bh subs for tt solo runs and selling my keys at 200k each.

    Made a tidy sum and got a lot of sage mystic skills.

    TL:DR don't take my boxes b:cry (>Q_Q)> b:surrender
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  • foxtrapper
    foxtrapper Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2011
    Well, as long as they don't take away the ones we haven't opened yet!
    It sucks that they aren't going to drop anymore, they were honestly a bit of fun while doin squad mode with hubby.
    But if they take away my next few years of mirages, im gonna be sad and only new pretty fash will make it better b:surrender
  • Hellraisor - Heavens Tear
    Hellraisor - Heavens Tear Posts: 311 Arc User
    edited July 2011
    So the aps guys who got a year worth of them from soloing tt squad mode during last 2x can keep the boxes while the casters who gotta farm each day to make a bit of money will lose them?
  • Yuniryu - Raging Tide
    Yuniryu - Raging Tide Posts: 516 Arc User
    edited July 2011
    Originally i was mad about this. But then i realized there are other ways to make money. Well at least this solves the trading fairy boxes issues when squading, since people can open it. After reading through people thoughts and complaints the good thing about this is xD mirages will go back to 17k and not 10.5k lol.

    360k a day isn t a big deal, i can make that with other simplier and non popular methods. :).

    Besides only TT 1 - x and TT 2 - x no big deal ;p. Well at least if i do get subs i can use them for something else :).
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  • Joshcja - Sanctuary
    Joshcja - Sanctuary Posts: 3,502 Arc User
    edited July 2011
    Means that those of us with good gear will get more mirages per day

    3-x squad for boxes then spam 2-x solo when your bored of that. 200+ mirages a day in 2x
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  • Yuniryu - Raging Tide
    Yuniryu - Raging Tide Posts: 516 Arc User
    edited July 2011
    Joshcja - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Means that those of us with good gear will get more mirages per day

    3-x squad for boxes then spam 2-x solo when your bored of that. 200+ mirages a day in 2x

    Tell me about it, it was boring. lol. Actually at least now i can find squads, instead of having to do single. Maybe this will force people to do more tt squads.
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