Ultimate battle scenario 1:

Burnout - Harshlands
Burnout - Harshlands Posts: 2,585 Arc User
edited July 2011 in Dawnglory (EU)
http://pwcalc.com/2f85262286beb275

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Conditions: All genies and pots are allowed. The barb is fighting with his own hp buff. The wizard fights with his own earth barrier. Both combatants start the fight at 3.99 sparks. Both have all sage/demon skills and 79/100 skills available to them. The battleground is west arch, which means both air and ground is allowed.

Both have unlimited hp and mp charms at their disposal.

The wizard is sage. The barb is demon.

Who wins?
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  • Paimage - Harshlands
    Paimage - Harshlands Posts: 1,017 Arc User
    edited July 2011
    Wiz missing shards, but Im pretty sure the winner is the one that makes less mistakes. If you play barb well enough, you cant be killed by someone with gear equivalent to you, theres no chance it will happen. Wizard with good kiting skills can survive for ages and the barb not having many stun skills, will have a hard time getting close to the wizard. I say they will fight till server closes lol
  • Rhyme - Harshlands
    Rhyme - Harshlands Posts: 1,004 Arc User
    edited July 2011
    Paigrande are you just going to let Burnout take your title of "Makes Pointless Polls About Everything" without putting up a fight?
  • Evict - Heavens Tear
    Evict - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,301 Arc User
    edited July 2011
    Assassin pops out of stealth and kills both of them. That's who wins.
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  • zbzkda
    zbzkda Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2011
    Assassin pops out of stealth and kills both of them. That's who wins.

    Sadly this actually is the correct answer b:surrender
    I seriously wonder: people who don't RPK, if you play the board game "Sorry!" and you roll the dice so that you land on an opponents piece and send it back to the beginning, do you sincerely apologize and ask everyone if you can have a do-over roll so you can give your victim another chance? It's a god damn game..

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  • Halt - Harshlands
    Halt - Harshlands Posts: 452 Arc User
    edited July 2011
    Barb.
    Unban me.
  • Longknife - Harshlands
    Longknife - Harshlands Posts: 4,843 Arc User
    edited July 2011
    Barb could open the match with Absolute Domain to not get silenced, the level 100 skill that hits like a truck and Bestial Onslaught and probably crit. That'd probably be enough. If not, he's still got two sparks handy for Perdition.

    But yeah it's kinda situational. I mean, the Wizzie could Absolute domain those two skills and then it's Round 2. But I'd put my money on the barb simply because he casts faster and doesn't take f***ing ages to rebuild chi.
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  • Burnout - Harshlands
    Burnout - Harshlands Posts: 2,585 Arc User
    edited July 2011
    Sorry, forgot to mention that the wiz was sharded full JoSD.
    Match was held at 5:42 am eastern in my mind.

    Wiz undines.
    Barb starts to charge.
    Wiz casts gush for (crit!) 10408.
    Barb casts bestial onslaught for (crit!) 4947.
    Wiz casts pyrogram for 4992.
    Barb casts mighty swing for (crit!) 3822.
    Stun failed!
    Wiz distance shrinks.
    Wiz casts essential sutra.
    Wiz casts Divine pyrogram for 6100.
    Wiz casts Black Ice Dragon Strike for (crit!) 19107.
    Barb uses solid shield genie skill!
    Barb uses Tree of protection genie skill!
    Wiz casts pyrogram for 2075.
    Barb casts mighty swing for 1954.
    Stun successful!
    Barb casts bestial onslaught for (crit!) 4777.
    Wizard is lagging! Absolute domain is not going off!
    Barb casts perdition for (crit!) (zerk!) 37616!
    Wizard has been reduced to 0 hp.
    Barb is victorious!
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  • ArchAngeLi - Harshlands
    ArchAngeLi - Harshlands Posts: 285 Arc User
    edited July 2011
    I wanna be a billionaire soooo friggin bad.... buying the r9 I never had !!!
  • Halt - Harshlands
    Halt - Harshlands Posts: 452 Arc User
    edited July 2011
    What was the weather like?
    Unban me.
  • Player_two - Harshlands
    Player_two - Harshlands Posts: 135 Arc User
    edited July 2011
    i had a match like this wiht a wiz once. jsut on a lower gear level. pretty much the same for the both of us. and yeha it went on forever. we both decided *** this its charm **** and went our seperate ways.

    also



    *** YOU AND YOUR DEMON BARB. SAGE FTW. also if the barb has his purge 100 skill and gets it off its GG for the wiz
    b:shocked oh noes was walking and forgot to breath
  • MrsChow - Harshlands
    MrsChow - Harshlands Posts: 34 Arc User
    edited July 2011
    omg mr rogers committed harikiri
  • Princece - Harshlands
    Princece - Harshlands Posts: 59 Arc User
    edited July 2011
    Assassin pops out of stealth and kills both of them. That's who wins.

    we think the same. +1
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  • Hellsarcher - Harshlands
    Hellsarcher - Harshlands Posts: 965 Arc User
    edited July 2011
    just ask kalyptica and wolifo to 1vs1 then ull see who wins..
  • Garaver - Harshlands
    Garaver - Harshlands Posts: 882 Arc User
    edited July 2011
    Assassin pops out of stealth and kills both of them. That's who wins.

    This

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  • Retaliation - Harshlands
    Retaliation - Harshlands Posts: 16 Arc User
    edited July 2011
    just ask kalyptica and wolifo to 1vs1 then ull see who wins..


    this isnt a reasonable outlook to the actual victor in a situation like that. for one Wolfo is strength built granted he hits like a truck but his HP is lacking greatly. If you were going for the builds that were orignally picked for the scenario id have to say barb. Between HP pots charms TOP and other genie skills it would be extremely hard to kill him through a charm. Also in a situation like this Burnout your forgetting the other barb skills he doesnt have to rely on mighty swing to stun. There is mighty swing, and frighten both have the chance to stun, Also their 79 skill although it is only 1 second stun it can be used quite effectively. For example (Wiz is casting Bids barb uses 79 skill interrupts channeling then uses mighty swing which successfully stuns) then if you add an occult ice genie into the mix and can keep the wiz there GG. If that fails fu.ck it, Demon sunder,pop white tea, occult ice, perdition. ZERK CRIT dead


    XD although Wolfo vs Kalyptica would be a fun 1v1 to watch
  • Burnout - Harshlands
    Burnout - Harshlands Posts: 2,585 Arc User
    edited July 2011
    this isnt a reasonable outlook to the actual victor in a situation like that. for one Wolfo is strength built granted he hits like a truck but his HP is lacking greatly. If you were going for the builds that were orignally picked for the scenario id have to say barb. Between HP pots charms TOP and other genie skills it would be extremely hard to kill him through a charm. Also in a situation like this Burnout your forgetting the other barb skills he doesnt have to rely on mighty swing to stun. There is mighty swing, and frighten both have the chance to stun, Also their 79 skill although it is only 1 second stun it can be used quite effectively. For example (Wiz is casting Bids barb uses 79 skill interrupts channeling then uses mighty swing which successfully stuns) then if you add an occult ice genie into the mix and can keep the wiz there GG. If that fails fu.ck it, Demon sunder,pop white tea, occult ice, perdition. ZERK CRIT dead


    XD although Wolfo vs Kalyptica would be a fun 1v1 to watch

    It depends on buffs. Self-buffs only, barb would actually be a somewhat easy kill under undine strike. Even the top geared barbs only have around 50% magic resists reduction during undine, which means just a regular gush can hit for over 5k even with 70 defense levels. Put in a few crits, and you have a dead barb after his top + solid shield etc wears out. Until then a wiz should be able to kite.

    Also, if the fight is in the air, it's just not possible for a barb to get an air-to-air stun if the wiz doesn't want it to happen. The best u could hope for is a stun right after the wiz drops, which means arma hits for half damage (which basically means you need to zerk crit to win).

    If the fight is ground-to-ground, the wiz can kite the barb forever with just sage gush. The only exception to this is a good barb who holy paths into you while you're in mid-cast. Even then it's only a 50-60% chance to stun (and also leaves him with very little energy to use occult ice).

    Now if you're talking about a "real" 1 v 1 where the wiz just stands there and doesn't kite or only distance shrinks like once, then I think it's an easy win for the barb. Up close a barb has too much damage potential.

    Now, if the barb is buffed w/ cleric magic resist, I think the advantage starts to go over a bit to barb, since all they have to do is bide their time until the wiz makes a mistake. Then again it's unlikely the wiz will die either if he's bm/cleric buffed.

    The barb can catch the wizard if he uses occult ice, but then that leaves the barb with only solid shield/TE as an option for defense, while the wiz can BoC out of the occult. But there's that option to go for a win :D.
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  • Nyxyo - Harshlands
    Nyxyo - Harshlands Posts: 233 Arc User
    edited July 2011
    1 on 1 ..charmed...own buffs....same gear...same skill(is hard to pull this)...i think wizard will kite and hit barbar ...while barbar trying to get to wizard will run in a very slow motion...but wizard will shrink ...until hp charm from barbar is over and ggb:laugh
  • Burnout - Harshlands
    Burnout - Harshlands Posts: 2,585 Arc User
    edited July 2011
    Isn't there some barb in Catalyst that's better geared than wollfo? Noeum or something. I remember inspecting him and he had +11 r9, but that was a couple weeks ago. He came outta safe zone and started one-shotting all the noobs around him then left. lol.

    There's a couple extreme-geared barbs and wizzies around but they almost never meet outside of TW. It's like they are trying to avoid each other b:puzzled. I wonder why.

    ....oh yeah, sins.
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  • Man - Raging Tide
    Man - Raging Tide Posts: 1,410 Arc User
    edited July 2011
    If barb gets zerk crits he will win

    If wizard can kite well and wear barbarian defenses down he will win

    If they are full buffed barb would win, purge skill ftw, and barb would be too hard for wiz to kill.

    Barb does kind of have low mdef though.

    So i think its in the air would would take it, would just depend on luck
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