Dead instances :O

Personally I'm quite baffled at the large sum of incomplete/bugged-to-hell instances, not to mention what good it did for this game to recycle the FB109's into other instances (speaking of dead instances, hello Warsong!) instead of perhaps increasing the level cap at some point so people have more actual content and an ability to farm more skill books.

Well, it's where 1/6th of my weapon came from, but is otherwise kinda silly and pointless. And at 'event' time...

The BH system is partly to blame - it trained people to doing the same dungeon over and over and over. It also kinda helped populate the dungeons it DOES set, of course.

Then, on the flip side... it costs HOW much to get into lunar squad mode? And there's no way to do a short rebirth.

The abuse of frost (even without the bug) has reached utterly ridiculous levels though.

We do delta almost daily... Then I see other ppl in faction forming their own squads pretty often as well, for chronos or frags.

Last few times I've done cube, there were plenty of ppl. Maybe you play at a bad time or smth.

does anyone do lunar anymore?

iv never done a RB alpha, beta, gamma or delta. mainly because at lower lvl i didnt care bout doing them and at the lvl im at now i cant do it since i have no experience and no one wants to teach someone of my lvl to do it b:surrender so i just accepted the fact i wont do em at all b:chuckle

Purple_fury - Sanctuary wrote: »

iv never done a RB alpha, beta, gamma or delta. mainly because at lower lvl i didnt care bout doing them and at the lvl im at now i cant do it since i have no experience and no one wants to teach someone of my lvl to do it b:surrender so i just accepted the fact i wont do em at all b:chuckle

I have never done those either. I really want to though, because I want the level 100 fairy :[ Also, want to just unlock the maps.

If you farm the fragment from delta then the pangu tome with int becomes cheaper to make then the current price its selling for

True. It isn't AS hard as some people make it out to be. I was in a faction on my main and I hadn't hit 100 yet but needed to do my OHT culti. A few of the lvl 100 officers wouldn't take me. They said it would be too hard for me and it was too hard to teach. Wtf? It's easy to me. (My main is a 100 bm btw)

To me, Delta is FUN. I get to AoE like crazy and do HF a LOT. Super fun.

SoniMax - Sanctuary wrote: »

Delta is awesome I did full with a squad today.
It took us 3hrs LOL but you get some pretty good stuff
around 1m coins
around 2m exp
I got 22 Mystical Tome Fragments = 200k each is thier average price
got also 3 chests of coin = sold them for 150k each (idk if the price was too low )
i forgot i got 1 Old Book Page too = average price 500k (wont sell it )
and a bunch of OHT mats
so for 3hrs I made around 6,5m (if i sell everything) that isn't that bad, is it ? LOL

I hope this will encourage people to do alfa,betta,gamma,delta...
I've done only gamma (3 times-3 fails LOL) and delta (once) LOL
it isn't that hard IMO.

On sanctuary server, there is still a handful of people doing lunar on a daily basis. Not sure if it's for bh or using that new non-resetting instance glitch to bypass the 3 mil fee. Either way, its keeping earth essence at a earthly price around 1 mil, so I am happy I can just buy it from the AH to make my other lunar-vanna sets:D

Neodaystar - Sanctuary wrote: »

On sanctuary server, there is still a handful of people doing lunar on a daily basis. Not sure if it's for bh or using that new non-resetting instance glitch to bypass the 3 mil fee.

Bypass the 3m fee? Ever try trophy mode? It's a fun way to spend a few mirage (pretty damn cheap compared to 3m for the MP mode) and you still get the mats.. .....oh wait.... Fuzzy forgot.... people are under the impression that Lunar trophy is either broken or impossible even with the current state of end-game gear. Shame on them.

Decus - Dreamweaver wrote: »

The reason instances are dead is because there isn't much of a reason to DO them.

For example, why do warsong when the gear you get from it...

Is gear the only reason people run instances anymore? b:puzzled

Then again, maybe it is seeing as how actually knowing your class actually means nothing these days.

Warsong can actually be a fairly fun instance, but again, who would know that? Warsong BH? Lets activate the quest and then all stand around and go for dinner or some such **** and wait untill the elemental pavilions are over-run. Heaven forbid actually trying to defend one.. or two.. or all of them. Trying to defend a pavilion that doesn't oppose your element damage? The panda is shocked! Who would ever attempt such insanity! Forbid the idea that trying to push your character to achieve something might be fun! If it doesn't earn coin or OP gear well... perish the thought... there must be no point! That alone must make an instance useless!

Detect a note of sarcasm?

Too many players, it seems to Fuzzy, are focused on nothing but gear and coin. In all honesty however, what does that get you if you can't actually play the game?

Lets take a "for instance..."

A day or two ago this panda (in his sad/fail/non OP/non APS barb mix of +7 - +10 Nirvana gear with a horrible +10 TT100 axe) ran a seeming simple SoT instance with a mix of 101 players, 2+ of whom were ~+10 R9. Sounds like fun Fuzzy says to himself. Here is a good squad where we can actually go to town. It seems a bit odd at first that the other barb (+10 - +12 R9) isn't taking the lead, but the fail panda steps up and pulls for all he can. Holy Path, 9.0+ run speed in tiger, Roar, Bestial Rage, Invoke, Sunder, ToP, the panda throws the kitchen sink at the instance. This is Fuzzy's idea of fun. But wait... what,s this? Each person with R8/9 seems to die several times... When asked why, they play the "never seen it done that way before" card. Seriously? What should have been a perfect "zen party" squad to tear the instance a new one claiming they can't keep up because "wow, we only pull one or two packs of mobs at a time?" "Pulling the boss and all the wraiths around em is crazy?"


Instances are dead because too many players are afraid of not being able to play/don't know how to play them. That is the end of the story.

The current mentality, it seems to this panda, that prevails is if it doesn't reward gear or pure profit to spend with selfish means it must not be worth it.

The truth is, to Fuzzy, that instances are dead because people are too selfish and can't get anything personal from it, combined with the fact they are too scared to put their "epic cs skills" to the test lest they actually fail.

FuzzyWuzz wrote: »

Bypass the 3m fee? Ever try trophy mode? It's a fun way to spend a few mirage (pretty damn cheap compared to 3m for the MP mode) and you still get the mats.. .....oh wait.... Fuzzy forgot.... people are under the impression that Lunar trophy is either broken or impossible even with the current state of end-game gear. Shame on them.

Why the **** would you do trophy mode for Lunar mats? The bosses there only drop one essence each instead of the three each you get in the current squad mode and there's no chance of a good gold.

The only reason to do Lunar trophy mode is for the capes.

FuzzyWuzz wrote: »

Too many players, it seems to Fuzzy, are focused on nothing but gear and coin. In all honesty however, what does that get you if you can't actually play the game?

What should have been a perfect "zen party" squad to tear the instance a new one claiming they can't keep up because "wow, we only pull one or two packs of mobs at a time?" "Pulling the boss and all the wraiths around em is crazy?"


Instances are dead because too many players are afraid of not being able to play/don't know how to play them. That is the end of the story.


The truth is, to Fuzzy, that instances are dead because people are too selfish and can't get anything personal from it, combined with the fact they are too scared to put their "epic cs skills" to the test lest they actually fail.

I would resume just to that. It points out everything i see happening..


In my opinion (talking about those zen parties), it is much more fun to die when trying to kick-*** some 20 mobs than to die cause the thing got a bit out of control and every player just watch his back in that case... As the cleric is the only one to watch everyone's back and he has to or he will be called as a "fail", the cleric is the first to die for sure..

Getting back again to you Fuzzy, i think that it is even more difficult nowadays to have fun because new players today only see the 4 aps or the having rank 9 gear as something fun, like you could rule the game...

FuzzyWuzz wrote: »

...or to spend the ever so "usless" mirages (to quote the 100's of threads from 6 months ago) , have some fun, AND to get the mats and bypass the 3m fee.....


sorry, that must be Fuzzy's insanity speaking again.

I like to do Lunars and try other instances for fun too, but with about 1/16 of that condescending attitude.

Thing is, Pve on this game is boring for the most part. What's fun about it to me is talking to my friends and running around doing crazy things while im at it. People abandoned these instances because they are less efficient ways of getting gear/exp. They aren't usually very fun to them. They can be fun under conditions, however I still see no validity in taking the LC gangsta tone about your pve matters. For the time it takes you to farm a warsong belt, you could have probably farmed enough money from other instances to buy one already refined decently, cheaper than it would have cost to make one. You think people can just pop 5mil out for charms/repairs etc just because you want them to do an instance that will give them less of what they want and take them a longer time to do it because you think they should think its fun? Clearly, YOU think it's fun and so are willing to give the time, but speaking on such a tone about other players based solely on your preference is unnecessary. No, many players do not think pve is fun. So why would they do these instances?

FuzzyWuzz wrote: »

Fuzzy point is that instances are dead because, like you illustrated, people are only interested in getting the most OP gear, not simply running instances to push their character to it's limit and having some fun.

.....and it's hardly condescending to think that those who have the best gear should be able to survive any instance in the game if you gather up half the mobs in 1 pull. b:bye

It was condescending to bring that earlier example up in this thread where it had no real quality of illustrating a point. It was a very weak example for what your argument was, really. Came off as more of an epeen waggle TBH.
and next time it might be helpful to read posts instead of substituting the post material with "blah blah blah" because you have entirely missed a big point I was bringing up.

VenomousEmo - Harshlands wrote: »

Fuzzy, why do you talk in 3rd person?

Because Fuzzy is a hipster