Do you think people should do what they want in game?

Yes and no. Yes, because you are free to play the game how you want, and its great to do things to have fun. No, because if you playing a certain way negatively affects your squads, you are worthless. It's like a cleric that only levels attacks. Dont get me wrong, when I have a chance, I am a full metal mage. I would rather kill than heal any day of the week. But the clerics that ONLY have attack skills are completely worthless if they squad up. No one wants a cleric that cant heal.

So if playing the way you want makes you happy, thats great. But if it screws others over, dont you dare try squadding with that build

Aksar_Rain - Archosaur wrote: »

Depends if they say that after you give some advice in a nice way then i see your point, but if you disrespected the build badly then they have a right to defend themselves

Lack of effectiveness is pretty objective though (i.e. if your heals are weak, a tank will die).

All the people who play non-standard builds should ask themselves, "Can I fulfill my role in a squad in the same or similar capacity to a standard "non-fail" build? If so, then go nuts and play however you want. If not, then that is bad and should be rectified if that person intends to continue squad activities. That or never squad. :<

Siumiki - Dreamweaver wrote: »

that reminds me of one bh...saw cleric with heavy armors on, i so wanted to drop squad just to see if he even have enough good heal to keep that suicidal squad alive XD

Ive actually seen ONE cleric pull this off. Ive seen alot try and fail, but this one had HA gear, and enough magic to keep everyone alive with no difficulty. Thats one of those builds that IF, and big IF you can pull it off right, its ok to experiment with in squads. Its just so many of them fail miserably.

What the OP is likely referring to in his emo-riffic post is this rather bizarre guide he made:

http://pwi-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=1135061

That basically ignores every barb pulling skill, barb aggro skill, AOE's, of course, OP is a significantly low level trying to make a guide that competes with other guides already made by players who are/were endgame, or at very least have experienced skills to know where they're useful. 99%+ of barbs that post there would make a more useful guide. What in the world does this person do when they play their barb? They never pointed that out, and surely if they were serious and not trolling, no squad would take them for being so useless.

I'm more than in favour of choice and playing one's own ways, thinking outside the box and not being limited and bogged down by "roles", but in OP's complete ignorance to most if not pretty much all their class' skills they fail to recognize the detriment it will cause in getting a squad for necessary things down the road, never mind failing to explain how the guide they made is in the slightest bit helpful to anyone. They're setting themselves up and anyone else who follows this weird guide up for embarrassment and being shunned/turned away by squads -- rightfully.

^what she said
Do what ever you want, just get used to being kicked out of the squad often.

Aksar_Rain - Archosaur wrote: »

not my fault i lost the paper that had a guide on it for barbs that i followed, it was a good guide to, probly would of been out of date since it was before the tideborn came out; i forgot the the person name who made the guide

Go to the barbs forums, you're most likely to find it there.

LovesTragedy - Lost City wrote: »

Ive actually seen ONE cleric pull this off. Ive seen alot try and fail, but this one had HA gear, and enough magic to keep everyone alive with no difficulty. Thats one of those builds that IF, and big IF you can pull it off right, its ok to experiment with in squads. Its just so many of them fail miserably.

in theory there's no reason why any caster class wouldn't be able to go HA, using the same methods HA venos use; lots and lots of stat-add equipment.

in practice, HA venos have a reason to do that --- halfway decent physical attack and some skills to back up a melee DD approach with. other casters would be dialing down their magic to the bare minimum for their magic weapon (or less) and get nothing out of it but the HA's defenses and refines. which does them little good if they're not taking physical hits as a melee fighter, the way HA venos might.

once i meet some archer with around 100 mag, i asked him why and the answer was "because i'm a skill spammer, since i have high mag my metal skills do more dmg" and when i tried to explain that endgame archers do more dmg with normal atacks than skills i was called a noob
so i would say, yes, build your char however you want, long as you know what you are doing and keep in mind that most of times your build wont be effective as others

this is one of the most stupid questions i have ever seen

i assume that the question was asked by a no life frustraded with people, why do u even bother with this, keepto urself and worry about urself

YES PEOPLE CAN DO WHATEVER THEY WANT, this is why we have received the freedome, and noone should be allowed to take it away from us in any way

and omg people this is a game, why do you talk about pointless and unneeded stuff like this

if someone will do sth against the rules than they will get banned , fin, we all got brains and can judge our actions

totally yes but it has its down sides. like, yes, if you want to cash shop go for it! dont let others bring you down. but if you want to be a jerk (i really dont know who WANTS to be a jerk, i think people usually are naturally lol), then people are gunna hate you, and theyre not going to want to squad you or want to pk you and hate target you.

being different can be unique as long as you are pretty much doing what your class was made for (claw cleric, anyone? XD)

KennyPowers - Raging Tide wrote: »

Obviously people can build/play their characters however the like. But if you want to be considered useful there are certain standards each class must meet. A sword BM without a set of axes for HF will surely be left behind (*cough* to the BM I met last night *cough*). Just like a full attack cleric will be left behind for one who actually heals.

Then on some classes unique builds aren't that limiting, like a LA wiz. By no means am I encouraging wizards to use anything but AA, but nobody else in the squad really notices a difference.

If you play an important class (tank, cleric especially) I feel like there's a bit more responsibility to fulfill a specific role.

sage cleric FTMFW!

This is the most biased worded post I've seen.

It should be more like
"Should people follow standard builds" or w/e.

Anyway, IMO, it depends on the class and how much you depend on others (or how much others depend on you). If you're going FA cleric while a BM is tanking pole then gtfo, that's just being selfish.

In a squad situation where people need to work together, doing your own **** when people need you to be a good squad member is egocentric.