Demon pk style
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russian PW is completely different from PWI, two different games. So all this thread is useless.
moon@, ex-"proud holy mage" become common dark mage the "ногибатор" of russian PW, sad-sad ending...0 -
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same..
EH? IM FROM NARNIA!11 U FROM NARNIA TOO??russian PW is completely different from PWI, two different games. So all this thread is useless.
moon@, ex-"proud holy mage" become common dark mage the "ногибатор" of russian PW, sad-sad ending...
uhm it is the same game, just a slightly different versioni like potato0 -
Adroit - Lost City wrote: »I think you currently hold the record for most unintelligent person I've met in pwi (and that's REALLY saying something). Congratz! b:laugh
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Adroit - Lost City wrote: »Both sage w/ ~20% channeling, I have a 90dex genie and Questro has a 100 dex genie.. and we both use spark pretty regularly. Your combo is terrible though.. what happens when they domain and you've just wasted 4 sparks and half your genie energy? Here in pwi forums we don't assume our opponents are going to just sit there and drool over the keyboard, which is required for your "combo" to work.
The wizard on lost city are not that good as I have a alt there and watch them alot. I seen 2 r9 wizard BT each other, Im like wtf? A wizard at end game has more def then they have mag def why would you use bt unless you used the spark genie skill and no they did not use it. Plus you can 1shot anyone besides a barb or r9 psychic with white voodoo up with the undine strike +spark+ divine pyrogram( or Bt)combo. It's all about timing, plus I have to say demon is better then sage but sage is good to. Do to the fact that demon out dd sages. why? because demon cast faster then sages and have like 2 skill that increase their channeling, so even if you do deal higher damg then me in the long run my dps will out damg you by alot. not to mention demon skill has alot of reduce timers. then all the stuns demon has. So in the long run demon is far better then sage, but sage is good to.(Plus demon have waaay more pdef). Not to mention a demon wizard is the only wizard in MY OPINION that can beat a sin with ease without cashshoping.0 -
LostEA - Lost City wrote: »
This guy sucks! Im sorry to say this. He take to long to cast his skills, and he use def charm that why he surviving.0 -
Saintblu - Sanctuary wrote: »The wizard on lost city are not that good as I have a alt there and watch them alot. I seen 2 r9 wizard BT each other, Im like wtf? A wizard at end game has more def then they have mag def why would you use bt unless you used the spark genie skill and no they did not use it. Plus you can 1shot anyone besides a barb or r9 psychic with white voodoo up with the undine strike +spark+ divine pyrogram( or Bt)combo. It's all about timing, plus I have to say demon is better then sage but sage is good to. Do to the fact that demon out dd sages. why? because demon cast faster then sages and have like 2 skill that increase their channeling, so even if you do deal higher damg then me in the long run my dps will out damg you by alot. not to mention demon skill has alot of reduce timers. then all the stuns demon has. So in the long run demon is far better then sage, but sage is good to.(Plus demon have waaay more pdef). Not to mention a demon wizard is the only wizard in MY OPINION that can beat a sin with ease without cashshoping.
Cool story bro, you seem to know a lot about the wizard class."Of course you should fight fire with fire. You should fight everything with fire."
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Arenaceous - Lost City wrote: »Cool story bro, you seem to know a lot about the wizard class.
Im pretty sure I do since I been playing a wizard far longer then most. Please don't come with your insults, just idea okay? I mean hell you play n a pvp server and only have around 300 kills. I play on a pve server and don't even pvp anymore and yet I still have more. I been playing the wizard class before you know what the wizard class was. You LC people think your so good since you play on a pvp server. So I went there on a low lvl alt to watch you guys pvp. All I see is a bunch of people ganking each other, and a bunch of sin taking on like 20 people at once. Sins completely run that server, come to santuary sins dont run nothing there. Explain to me how do you have skills when all you do is gank? Skills come from what you can do alone not what you can do with a team. Now if you have any advise for all these wizard then feel free to let us know. Don't come here with you sarcastic remarks.0 -
his combined kills on both of his wizards is more than yours tho
dont judge by this stupid kill counter >.>, its so easy to get it upi like potato0 -
Basically what Hex said (Hey mate, how are you? Gonna roll on the German server? ;D), this is not my first wizard. I have also been playing other chars on LC a lot.
Anyway, my kill count is not connected to how much I know about the class or how well I can read skill descriptions. Let me adress your points then:
"I seen 2 r9 wizard BT each other, Im like wtf? A wizard at end game has more def then they have mag def why would you use bt unless you used the spark genie skill and no they did not use it."
Full R9 gives a lot of mdef, especially since it comes with a belt that gives the same amount of mdef as pdef. A R9 Wizard usually only has more self buffed pdef than mdef if he shards garnet gems or has a +12 refined neck. Also BT factors in twice the base magic attack which is a lot with r9 +10/+11/+12. It goes so far that BT can even be superior on BMS that mag marrow than BIDS.
"Plus you can 1shot anyone besides a barb or r9 psychic with white voodoo up with the undine strike +spark+ divine pyrogram( or Bt)combo"
Rarely, unless you crit. Not against full JoSD...
"Do to the fact that demon out dd sages. why? because demon cast faster then sages and have like 2 skill that increase their channeling, so even if you do deal higher damg then me in the long run my dps will out damg you by alot."
Wizard is no DPS class, idk about your DPS, I kill through charm bypasses.
"then all the stuns demon has."
what? one 20% stun and one 50% melee range stun?
"Plus demon have waaay more pdef)"alue is not waaaaaaay more
30% equip value is not waaaaay more"
"Not to mention a demon wizard is the only wizard in MY OPINION that can beat a sin with ease without cashshoping."
no wizard or other class can beat an endgame sin even with cashshopping... maybe a godly psy..."Of course you should fight fire with fire. You should fight everything with fire."
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if they open a PVP server imma make a sage mage
even tho im favoring most demon skills, i see the combination of the genie skills i want working better with sage
you dont need high channeling skills when u use sutra spark
you dont need demon spark speed burst if u use a 0-channeling pot right after, but i fancy that extra defense
i wonder if i can even play without my demon skills (yeah hoping for stone rain stun much?! YES, abusing the extra range of MS? YES QQ)
only way is to go and find out
get started in merchanting QQ, roll a bm first (i dont wanna make a sin again.)
the easiest part would be powerlvling a wizard to 100~103~104 in a few weeks once the BM is geared, but getting there again? >.<
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Arenaceous - Lost City wrote: »Basically what Hex said (Hey mate, how are you? Gonna roll on the German server? ;D), this is not my first wizard. I have also been playing other chars on LC a lot.
Anyway, my kill count is not connected to how much I know about the class or how well I can read skill descriptions. Let me adress your points then:
"I seen 2 r9 wizard BT each other, Im like wtf? A wizard at end game has more def then they have mag def why would you use bt unless you used the spark genie skill and no they did not use it."
Full R9 gives a lot of mdef, especially since it comes with a belt that gives the same amount of mdef as pdef. A R9 Wizard usually only has more self buffed pdef than mdef if he shards garnet gems or has a +12 refined neck. Also BT factors in twice the base magic attack which is a lot with r9 +10/+11/+12. It goes so far that BT can even be superior on BMS that mag marrow than BIDS.
"Plus you can 1shot anyone besides a barb or r9 psychic with white voodoo up with the undine strike +spark+ divine pyrogram( or Bt)combo"
Rarely, unless you crit. Not against full JoSD...
"Do to the fact that demon out dd sages. why? because demon cast faster then sages and have like 2 skill that increase their channeling, so even if you do deal higher damg then me in the long run my dps will out damg you by alot."
Wizard is no DPS class, idk about your DPS, I kill through charm bypasses.
"then all the stuns demon has."
what? one 20% stun and one 50% melee range stun?
"Plus demon have waaay more pdef)"alue is not waaaaaaay more
30% equip value is not waaaaay more"
"Not to mention a demon wizard is the only wizard in MY OPINION that can beat a sin with ease without cashshoping."
no wizard or other class can beat an endgame sin even with cashshopping... maybe a godly psy...
lol Glad you post your opinion about wizards. You under Estimate demon wizads, all I can say is make one and you will see. Plus lets make a bet? I bet all the best wizard on each servers are demon. Maybe 2 years ago when noone knew how to play a wizard sage dominated because everyone went sage for that BIDS crit. Now a days demon wizards is the best. You say wizard dont have dps? Well faster chanelling is what make a wizard strong. The job of the wizard is to killl before they get near you, thats when faster channeling comes in. No need to argue every one has their own view about their class. I have been on LC I have yet to see a good wizard. You say noone can beat a end game sin? maybe on LC server but they don't do shet on santuary server. We put them in their place.0 -
Saintblu - Sanctuary wrote: »lol Glad you post your opinion about wizards. You under Estimate demon wizads, all I can say is make one and you will see. Plus lets make a bet? I bet all the best wizard on each servers are demon. Maybe 2 years ago when noone knew how to play a wizard sage dominated because everyone went sage for that BIDS crit. Now a days demon wizards is the best. You say wizard dont have dps? Well faster chanelling is what make a wizard strong. The job of the wizard is to killl before they get near you, thats when faster channeling comes in. No need to argue every one has their own view about their class. I have been on LC I have yet to see a good wizard. You say noone can beat a end game sin? maybe on LC server but they don't do shet on santuary server. We put them in their place.
Have you ever left safezone? Even once? I can't believe I'm saying this, but BLOOD.. you may have an equal b:shockedYoutube Channel: youtube.com/user/D2VeT/videos?flow=grid&view=0
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Adroit - Lost City wrote: »Have you ever left safezone? Even once? I can't believe I'm saying this, but BLOOD.. you may have an equal b:shocked
Umm baby Im not going to get into a sensless argument with you. I play on a pve server which means Im not stuck in constant pvp like you ya dig? Now I know you want my attention that why you sit here all day waiting for my response, but Im not going to give it to you. You you cannot talk to somone with respect then your not worth talking to.0 -
Mm...You make out Adroit to be some random nonfactor wiz that plays on Lost City, but he's one of the best wizards out there, ijs.
Watch a few of his vids - you'll see why he has such a big reputation, and it's not cuz he plays on a pvp server.
And no, I'm not sucking up. I actually compliment very few people
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Scorched_Sky - Sanctuary wrote: »Mm...You make out Adroit to be some random nonfactor wiz that plays on Lost City, but he's one of the best wizards out there, ijs.
Watch a few of his vids - you'll see why he has such a big reputation, and it's not cuz he plays on a pvp server.
And no, I'm not sucking up. I actually compliment very few people.
Scored Im not saying he sucks, I just disagree with some of his method about pking wizard. Every wizard has their own style of pvping so noone will agree with each other. Im saying instead of making little 12 year old insult toward people why don't he post his advice like the other guy did.0 -
Saintblu - Sanctuary wrote: »Scored Im not saying he sucks, I just disagree with some of his method about pking wizard. Every wizard has their own style of pvping so noone will agree with each other. Im saying instead of making little 12 year old insult toward people why don't he post his advice like the other guy did.
Well, to be fair, this thread's original topic didn't exactly call for an in-depth discussion of pvp strategies.
It was just a video that was posted, which lots of people criticized (for many legitimate reasons...).
If you look on Adroit's genie discussion thread, for example, he shares much of his strategy, as well as on other threads.
Edit: I respect the fact that there are different strategies for pking as a wizard lol.0 -
Scorched_Sky - Sanctuary wrote: »Well, to be fair, this thread's original topic didn't exactly call for an in-depth discussion of pvp strategies.
It was just a video that was posted, which lots of people criticized (for many legitimate reasons...).
If you look on Adroit's genie discussion thread, for example, he shares much of his strategy, as well as on other threads.
Edit: I respect the fact that there are different strategies for pking as a wizard lol.
Yeah guess you got a point right there. I think the person in the video posted was decent. As far as sage vs demon. they have 2 diffrent playing styles so a sage cannot come here and try to give advice about a demon wizard because their not a demon, unless they made a second wizard.0 -
@Saintblu: I am not saying demon cultivation sucks, I know a lot of good demon wizards. You are just hyping demon for the wrong reasons. Demon has some nice control skills that help with kiting (Hailstorm, Pitfall, Stone Rain). Also the faster channeling on demon allowes you to, for example, evade stuns better because you can drop/seal/sleep quicker after you cast a skill on a BM running at you. You also might be able to use dPyro or Glacial Snare more regularly. But that does not make you a DPS class. It is still your goal to kill an opponent with burst damage, be it genie sparked fire skills, BT/BIDS/MS or Sutra. You do not double click and auto attack like a fist BM. That's the reason I prefer sage over demon, because it allows me to build chi more frequently. Sage pyro can give you a nice chunk of chi, the sage chi skill is great, sage shrink is awesome on the long run and saving a spark with BT or MS is also not too bad. If I need a quick dps burst I use sutra, and if I ain't got chi, I kite till I have it. That's the reason I picked sage on two wizards, not BIDS, BIDS, BIDS (Even tho it is nice).
Killing your enemy before they reach you is delusional. There is so many genie skills/PK pots that let you survive the first assault if the wizard goes all out. In my opinion, the trick against good opponents is make them use up their ressources while you keep yours. That BM running at you? Kite him till he uses occult ice on you, THEN use your sleep/ult to bypass his charm. Because then he will not be able to domain. (Most obvious example, but there is more...)
People like Adroit do not take you seriously because you come in here and just state "Demon is better you sage nubz" while a lot of good wizards have discussed the issue for ages. If it was as clear as you make it sound, there wouldn't be that many discussions.
I am not saying I never kill sins. I am just saying a good, well geared endgame sin kills a wizard about 9/10 times. And that is without stealth.Here is what I am talking about.
Maybe I don't own a demon wizard, but I can read skill descriptions. Also if you say a sage cannot come here and talk about demon wizards, why do you have the right to jump in here and tell us demon wtfpwnz sage? It's the same for everyone."Of course you should fight fire with fire. You should fight everything with fire."
"Some have said there is no subtlety to destruction. You know what? They're dead."
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Arenaceous - Lost City wrote: »@Saintblu: I am not saying demon cultivation sucks, I know a lot of good demon wizards. You are just hyping demon for the wrong reasons. Demon has some nice control skills that help with kiting (Hailstorm, Pitfall, Stone Rain). Also the faster channeling on demon allowes you to, for example, evade stuns better because you can drop/seal/sleep quicker after you cast a skill on a BM running at you. You also might be able to use dPyro or Glacial Snare more regularly. But that does not make you a DPS class. It is still your goal to kill an opponent with burst damage, be it genie sparked fire skills, BT/BIDS/MS or Sutra. You do not double click and auto attack like a fist BM. That's the reason I prefer sage over demon, because it allows me to build chi more frequently. Sage pyro can give you a nice chunk of chi, the sage chi skill is great, sage shrink is awesome on the long run and saving a spark with BT or MS is also not too bad. If I need a quick dps burst I use sutra, and if I ain't got chi, I kite till I have it. That's the reason I picked sage on two wizards, not BIDS, BIDS, BIDS (Even tho it is nice).
Killing your enemy before they reach you is delusional. There is so many genie skills/PK pots that let you survive the first assault if the wizard goes all out. In my opinion, the trick against good opponents is make them use up their ressources while you keep yours. That BM running at you? Kite him till he uses occult ice on you, THEN use your sleep/ult to bypass his charm. Because then he will not be able to domain. (Most obvious example, but there is more...)
People like Adroit do not take you seriously because you come in here and just state "Demon is better you sage nubz" while a lot of good wizards have discussed the issue for ages. If it was as clear as you make it sound, there wouldn't be that many discussions.
I am not saying I never kill sins. I am just saying a good, well geared endgame sin kills a wizard about 9/10 times. And that is without stealth.Here is what I am talking about.
Maybe I don't own a demon wizard, but I can read skill descriptions. Also if you say a sage cannot come here and talk about demon wizards, why do you have the right to jump in here and tell us demon wtfpwnz sage? It's the same for everyone.
^ 100% agree
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Arenaceous - Lost City wrote: »@Saintblu: I am not saying demon cultivation sucks, I know a lot of good demon wizards. You are just hyping demon for the wrong reasons. Demon has some nice control skills that help with kiting (Hailstorm, Pitfall, Stone Rain). Also the faster channeling on demon allowes you to, for example, evade stuns better because you can drop/seal/sleep quicker after you cast a skill on a BM running at you. You also might be able to use dPyro or Glacial Snare more regularly. But that does not make you a DPS class. It is still your goal to kill an opponent with burst damage, be it genie sparked fire skills, BT/BIDS/MS or Sutra. You do not double click and auto attack like a fist BM. That's the reason I prefer sage over demon, because it allows me to build chi more frequently. Sage pyro can give you a nice chunk of chi, the sage chi skill is great, sage shrink is awesome on the long run and saving a spark with BT or MS is also not too bad. If I need a quick dps burst I use sutra, and if I ain't got chi, I kite till I have it. That's the reason I picked sage on two wizards, not BIDS, BIDS, BIDS (Even tho it is nice).
Killing your enemy before they reach you is delusional. There is so many genie skills/PK pots that let you survive the first assault if the wizard goes all out. In my opinion, the trick against good opponents is make them use up their ressources while you keep yours. That BM running at you? Kite him till he uses occult ice on you, THEN use your sleep/ult to bypass his charm. Because then he will not be able to domain. (Most obvious example, but there is more...)
People like Adroit do not take you seriously because you come in here and just state "Demon is better you sage nubz" while a lot of good wizards have discussed the issue for ages. If it was as clear as you make it sound, there wouldn't be that many discussions.
I am not saying I never kill sins. I am just saying a good, well geared endgame sin kills a wizard about 9/10 times. And that is without stealth.Here is what I am talking about.
Maybe I don't own a demon wizard, but I can read skill descriptions. Also if you say a sage cannot come here and talk about demon wizards, why do you have the right to jump in here and tell us demon wtfpwnz sage? It's the same for everyone.
I can say stuff about sage wizard because I have a lvl 98 sage wizard. It was my friend account but he left the game like 1 1/2 ago and told me I can keep it. When I say demon wizards was better I clearly said my Opinion. You say she don't take me seriously? Well bro I don't recall sayiing much tot hat person, she/he must do since it reply to me alot. Just because this person post a few pk video everyone thinks he/she is pro. My style of playing a wizard is completely diffrent from your style. Wanna know why? Because Im a demon wizard I don't rely on Ultimate skills to win. Alot of my skills have fast cooldown and casting. Not to mention the stuns and anti movements skilll stone raiin/HailStorm/Emberstorm/pitfall. This why I pickled demon I did not want to rely on Ultimate all the time I wanted the ability to win fights with simple skills. Now From playing both sage and demon wizard, I still find demon wizard alot more stronger then sage. Sage is only good with chi, while a demon is good with or without chi. Like I said your the complete opposite of me*Your pure sage and Im demon). So it clerly that we would not agree on playing styles. Like I said before I was clerly stating a opinion that demon is better then sage.0 -
Saintblu - Sanctuary wrote: »I can say stuff about sage wizard because I have a lvl 98 sage wizard. It was my friend account but he left the game like 1 1/2 ago and told me I can keep it. When I say demon wizards was better I clearly said my Opinion. You say she don't take me seriously? Well bro I don't recall sayiing much tot hat person, she/he must do since it reply to me alot. Just because this person post a few pk video everyone thinks he/she is pro. My style of playing a wizard is completely diffrent from your style. Wanna know why? Because Im a demon wizard I don't rely on Ultimate skills to win. Alot of my skills have fast cooldown and casting. Not to mention the stuns and anti movements skilll stone raiin/HailStorm/Emberstorm/pitfall. This why I pickled demon I did not want to rely on Ultimate all the time I wanted the ability to win fights with simple skills. Now From playing both sage and demon wizard, I still find demon wizard alot more stronger then sage. Sage is only good with chi, while a demon is good with or without chi. Like I said your the complete opposite of me*Your pure sage and Im demon). So it clerly that we would not agree on playing styles. Like I said before I was clerly stating a opinion that demon is better then sage.
1 think is lveling and playing with sage wizz day by day and another "my friend give to me his account" thing, coz i got too 100+ cleric, barbs, venos, demon wizz accounts but i cant say i was same awasome with them than the original owner....
about sage wizz he isnt allways need ulti for win but ulti give a good advantage and with
better chi gain why we cant use that? :P
this skills give a advantage like few other skill to sageNot to mention the stuns and anti movements skilll stone raiin/HailStorm/Emberstorm/pitfall.
( both side got only x% chance only for stun/+chi/crit/paralyze etc)
add that little unimportant info too, sage gain chi from 1 fast skill, from lv89 skill, reduced (50% chance) 2/3 ultimate cost with 50% less, shrink half chi cost etcSage is only good with chi, while a demon is good with or without chi
i could say u have right if u from ur own lv a sage wizz day by day and not just get it at lv99Now From playing both sage and demon wizard
i am sage wizz, i dont say sage better than demon but arent worst too.
about dph, i could agree why few ppl aim to dps instead casting, and why use alot ultimate, coz sometimes a ultimate crit deadly and ignore the charm tick (at lv98 with lv10 BT (later with sage ultis) combos i already got nice success in tw when i weared crit items, i was happy with that and dont want faster channeling but i understand that too if have few ppl who have success with that too)
personal opinion about casting time:
since psy out he got enough fast channeling with decent dmg, so i dont want be +1 casting time reduce item collector like most of psy/veno/few cleric and maybe mystic.
also i dont see any chance vs sin, only the sutra+chi.
but maybe others got different opinion.
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When I get off my lazy *** and level a wizz (mines sitting at 7x till my alt stable of 5 aps toons is finished) It will certainly go demon, the free ulti chance every stone rain seems like such a wonderfull kill chance, and the option to demon quaff rather than sutra at 50+% chan (keeping phys orns ofc) as either a spark combo or combined with an ulti just seems like it will open new pvp tactics to me.
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Saintblu - Sanctuary wrote: »I can say stuff about sage wizard because I have a lvl 98 sage wizard. It was my friend account but he left the game like 1 1/2 ago and told me I can keep it. When I say demon wizards was better I clearly said my Opinion. You say she don't take me seriously? Well bro I don't recall sayiing much tot hat person, she/he must do since it reply to me alot. Just because this person post a few pk video everyone thinks he/she is pro. My style of playing a wizard is completely diffrent from your style. Wanna know why? Because Im a demon wizard I don't rely on Ultimate skills to win. Alot of my skills have fast cooldown and casting. Not to mention the stuns and anti movements skilll stone raiin/HailStorm/Emberstorm/pitfall. This why I pickled demon I did not want to rely on Ultimate all the time I wanted the ability to win fights with simple skills. Now From playing both sage and demon wizard, I still find demon wizard alot more stronger then sage. Sage is only good with chi, while a demon is good with or without chi. Like I said your the complete opposite of me*Your pure sage and Im demon). So it clerly that we would not agree on playing styles. Like I said before I was clerly stating a opinion that demon is better then sage.
I been reading these post and I'm thinking about making me a wizard. It's hard for me to pick which way to go demon or sage. I mean you go a Legend Adroit who says sage is better. Then you have Saintblu who is well known by other wizard as being one of the most skilled on our server(I seen the guy in action he is a good wizard).
After looking at both side from demon to sage, I think Ill go demon. I think faster casting is better then trying to build up chi for a ultimate. Plus I like all the stuns, and movement debuffs demon has.
I really not to sure on it yet, since I have not made my wizard yet. Teehee0 -
TheMermaid - Sanctuary wrote: »I been reading these post and I'm thinking about making me a wizard. It's hard for me to pick which way to go demon or sage. I mean you go a Legend Adroit who says sage is better. Then you have Saintblu who is well known by other wizard as being one of the most skilled on our server(I seen the guy in action he is a good wizard).
After looking at both side from demon to sage, I think Ill go demon. I think faster casting is better then trying to build up chi for a ultimate. Plus I like all the stuns, and movement debuffs demon has.
I really not to sure on it yet, since I have not made my wizard yet. Teehee
I wouldn't go so far as saying saint is the best but he is one of the most skilled on our server. I never heard of Adroit but I'm a sage wizard myself. I don't agree that sage rely only on ulimates, we have other good combos. I do wish i went demon, they are awsome. I only picked sage because 1 1/2 year ago all the other wizard was going sage.Currently flying internet spaceships around dodixie, moving to amarr soon.
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Sage doesn't require u attack with ultimates to win pvp. I use ultis for aoe situations and almost never use em pvp 1v1 (magic caster opponents excluded). End game pure mag sage has so much power, ultis simply are not necessary in many situations, not to mention the fact they instantly give away your intentions to a well learned opponent. Pure mag sage don't even need to rely on crits, though they great fun when it happens. In other words, Sage Wiz doesn't need to plan for the one shot. That just frosting on the cake.
The issue with Sage wizard IMO is survivability. It takes skill to survive as Sage which is something I'm still learning. This makes Sage difficult to play but very fascinating and most excellent when a planned manuever is successful.
Also it's difficult on squads that don't know how to best use a Sage Wizard. But, when they get it right the results can be quite startling.
I know an excellent end game Demon Wiz. He plays with 100 less magic points than I. He's built for speed and survivability. He is better at dealing with sins 1v1 than I am. That is an excellent Wizard and he wouldn't trade for Sage. He likes that style. Sometimes I'm jealous. But, at the end of the day, he not the cannon. I'm the cannon. And, I like it.0 -
Adroit - Lost City wrote: »
For the record, I don't think sage is better than demon.. I think they are very well balanced. It's all about play style, and you can't really go wrong either way.. but someone saying one cultivation is superior than the other is missing the big picture. That said, I'd never even consider switching cultivations, I
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TheMermaid - Sanctuary wrote: »I been reading these post and I'm thinking about making me a wizard. It's hard for me to pick which way to go demon or sage. I mean you go a Legend Adroit who says sage is better. Then you have Saintblu who is well known by other wizard as being one of the most skilled on our server(I seen the guy in action he is a good wizard).
After looking at both side from demon to sage, I think Ill go demon. I think faster casting is better then trying to build up chi for a ultimate. Plus I like all the stuns, and movement debuffs demon has.
I really not to sure on it yet, since I have not made my wizard yet. Teehee
idk, but several times maybe u will notice faster<<<sutra when u must react faster than others, this is why i love, demon got more chance on control skills during kite, and sage gain faster chi for stronger combos thats all..
(still i love the sutra+d.pyro+earth ulti coz enough fast)0
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