Help with pet skill please

o.o You actually have a claw scroll? Considering it helps boost physical damage, and more damage holds aggro better, in my opinion it would be an excellent idea to give the Walker claw. I personally love my walker, since it already comes with roar and tough. ^^ So yes, in my opinion giving the walker claw sounds like an awesome idea.

Especially since if you DO ever get a herc, he doesn't really need claw, and if you ever get a nix it already comes with it.

if you have claw scroll then i think it may actually be better on a scorpion, since they have higher attack than a walker. but, on the downside, a scorpion cannot tank as well as a glacial walker. a scorpion should do fine on normal questing and such, but if it comes to instance mobs then it wont survive as well. using the claw scroll on the walker is fine if you want to, but like said above, if you were wanting to use a scroll on specifically a walker, then a phy/mag defense one or even the reflect scroll would be a better choice. (i had reflect on my golem in the PW-MY version, i loved it ^^)

but in all honesty, you COULD sell the scroll and put the money towards your herc savings xD

Claw, being more damage, without a doubt increases "kill speed". Not by an enormous and substantial amount, but noticeably.

On the other hand, don't bother with a herc. You have claw. Find protect, find strong (hopefully you can land them both on LC for under 15m each), and another skill (maybe blessing of the pack), and you have yourself about an equivalent of a herc who does more damage than a herc and has more HP than a herc for a fraction of the cost.

With gold at 1.1-1.3m a pop it costs 200-250m for a herc. Not worth it.

thumbs wrote: »

Buy when on sale, and buy & sell.

Which brings it to 125-150m. Still not worth it.

It would be huge, slow, low mdef, and lack the aggro of a Herc with Bash. You want the Herc's mdef in TT. >> It would also cost as much.<<

Herc magic reduction is 83% at level 100 with protect. Walker is 81%. Low mdef? Wut?

As far as bash is for aggro, it's good, but it's not going to hold aggro over things that steal any better than claw will in the duration of a battle. It's good at getting instant aggro at the start, but not any better at maintaining.

And cost? Uh, NO.

On your very own server, HT, protect was just being sold in the AH for 8m buyout. Strong goes for 10m buy. Claw varies. I bought mine for 15m. I've seen others at 10m, so likely it doesn't sell above 20. Blessing sells for 20-30m.

Given the cost, that's 70m (less than half the cost of a herc, and presumably the best case scenario for a sale -- otherwise, that's 1/5 of the cost) for a pet that does about as well as a herc does, and well outdamages it. Personally, I prefer the Seamonster Guardian over the Walker (mainly for the speed), which I use on my lower/newer veno, but the OP's choice is a Walker, which is certainly viable.

You need to stop living in the past, tweakz, the herc age is past us. When the prices go significantly down, we will be in agreement. Until then, your arguments pertaining to hercs are obsolete.

Not Tough. Strong. Strong = hour phys def buff, much like Protect is for magic def.

Reflect would be ok just know your limitations concerning the walker's HP.

thumbs wrote: »

I've paid more per piece for most of the equips I wear, and I could afford those equips mostly because of what the Herc could do for me. You're also talking of putting a Blessing on Herc which is worth ~50m. The Herc comes with 4585 HP at 100, the GW only 3553 giving Herc the major advantage of another skill slot. Not only are these skills you suggest expensive, but they require leveling too. Hercs come with skills maxed.

Hah, blessing is not worth more than 50m. You must be relying on Ducka to tell you the price. b:laugh

It's already painful enough holding back from attacking a boss while soloing, I can just imagine if I didn't have a Bash. Also, Herc comes with Reflect which is situationally great for aggro. You might want to dig up some older posts where people complained about the lack of aggro with claw.

Having neither bash nor claw is certainly going to make attaining aggro easier, however, presuming we're talking about other DD's, they are in most cases going to take aggro anyways, bash or claw or nothing. At least with claw you get more DPS and can even stack that with bash.

For the time you have to spend shopping to find them that cheap: you may as well put the time and effort into B/S SoF.

I saw all three pet scrolls in the AH this past week. You obviously have not been looking, and who blows that much coin in such a short span other than a mindless CS'er?

You just need to stop trolling with bad advice. Almost no 100+ venos use that crappy pet. Although Hercs suck for dmg, they still get to mobs quick and allow time for s.degen, amp, ironwood. They're much better for soloing, and aoe grinding. Venos who have no plans to get a Herc should just role another class. This one also said; "i dont plan on getting a herc for a long time period". -That would make anything invested in that far inferior pet a waste when they do get a Herc. People don't realize how fast they can acquire coin when they get to higher levels. Your advice urges people to gimp themselves financially right off the bat for something they probably won't have as long as they think they will.

On the contrary tweakz, most people tend to defer advice away from yours, because your advice is based on you, yourself, and tweakz, as well as tweakz being in a perpetual state of self-back patting because he's had a herc a long time and trying to milk the elitist attitude that goes along with it, however, it's still yet to hit you how foolish this looks being in the middle of 2011 and not 2009. A veno's pet is nice but it is not worth the cost it is now, nor has it been the 6 months+ or so. If this was the case, why do I see you offering plvl services on your assassin instead of your veno? You know, veno's are so awesome at AOE's, veno's are so awesome at DPS, veno's spending hundreds of millions for a fricken pet, yet you go and use your sin instead to make money.

You'd make a fine priest, Father tweakz.

thumbs wrote: »

It sells for that, but I agree it's not worth it.

If you're lucky as hell it sells for that. Agree or not.

You're deferring right now, doesn't mean people don't follow my advice. Most venos are using a cactopod from Eden to lure with now. Before my post about them; almost none did. All your advice does is gets people to spend half the cost of a Herc on a pet that is far inferior.

Few do now because some bosses glitch with cactopods. Luring with a ranged pet is certainly nothing that can be attributed to you when there's a large handful of them available, and the idea of luring is not something you created, Al Gore.

And you want this person wasting half the cost of a Herc on one? Herc is by far the most valuable pet in the game.

You also bought your herc some two years or more ago when I did. Still living in the past, dear tweakz.

Because idiot, each class can be great at something. Do I solo BHD, culti bosses in VoS with my Assassin like I can with veno? Until recently I used my veno to get passed the second boss and decaying fragrance in FF.

Carry on troll *** loser.

If you mean the chrono boss Taoya (there are no culti bosses in VOS), easily solo'd by your sin. Easily solo'd by mine too. About 10x faster than the amazing hercs we have too. Soloing shocktrooper is nothing new for a veno, especially an arcane veno. Fragrance.. depends on the pet skills, as Fragrance easily can one shot a herc with the debuff. What's the point of mentioning this other than making my job easier by pointing out the inferiority of using a herc these days when one can just solo with a sin instead?

I do notice your namecalling, and I suggest that I'm onto something with the obsolescence of the herc. Pray tell, what you gain by patting yourself on the back soloing **** much slower now when it's clear you've all but abandoned your veno for the sin? I wanna see your veno do the same world chats.. LFM powerlevel bigroom to end 600k/ea under 80. Few people ever actually gave you much credence in your posts, I sure didn't even when I agreed with you, but it's pretty hilarious b:cute

I still remember like it was yesterday how you'd post saying how you are the best AOE DD in any squad over a wiz and psy (I presume seeker now too). b:laugh

It's Father tweakz preaching from his pedestal from which his blather is a constant contradiction.

People already know instead of wasting 230m on a herc, r8 a 4/5 APS sin, or spend a fraction of that getting a better DD pet. Tanking isn't for hercs anymore. Time to move on from 2009.